How Many Miles?
09-17-2006, 08:27 PM
#111
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Re: How Many Miles?
Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >>> The XJ engine was mechanically very stout, also overweight. Bad
> >>>auxilliaries were the cause of trouble, and deferred maintenance. If
> >>>maintained they are a extremely durable, reliable core powerplant. The
> >>>big DOHC six in Land Cruisers was also a decent powerplant, why can't
> >>>you get it in trucks?
> >>
> >>The E-type engine could be made to be stout, if you replaced all of the
> >>soft parts and the heads. The Toyo DOHC 6 was much tougher.
Up through the 3.8 there was nothing wrong with the Jag six. Brit
metallurgy went to hell in the Scargill era but most of the 4.2s were
giving good service if maintained, at stock power levels. Lucas
ancillaries and the US built Borg Warner slushbox were troublesome.
> >
> > The PRV , that was a piece of ---- to be sure. I didn't know
> > Europeans, except the italians, could make a piece of ---- engine that
> > bad til then.
> >
>
> Isn't that the same engine that was used in the Eagle Premiere and at
> least the early LH cars? (and the Delorean come to think of it).
Yes.
>
> My Mom had one of those Premieres and it was a really nice car, kind of
> weird but a nice car. Oddly enough pretty much everything broke (except
> the engine) until the extended warranty ran out, she hardly had any
> trouble with it again the rest of the time she had it.
Her experience is unusual in that usually everything including the
engine went bad on those things.
09-17-2006, 08:27 PM
#112
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Re: How Many Miles?
Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >>> The XJ engine was mechanically very stout, also overweight. Bad
> >>>auxilliaries were the cause of trouble, and deferred maintenance. If
> >>>maintained they are a extremely durable, reliable core powerplant. The
> >>>big DOHC six in Land Cruisers was also a decent powerplant, why can't
> >>>you get it in trucks?
> >>
> >>The E-type engine could be made to be stout, if you replaced all of the
> >>soft parts and the heads. The Toyo DOHC 6 was much tougher.
Up through the 3.8 there was nothing wrong with the Jag six. Brit
metallurgy went to hell in the Scargill era but most of the 4.2s were
giving good service if maintained, at stock power levels. Lucas
ancillaries and the US built Borg Warner slushbox were troublesome.
> >
> > The PRV , that was a piece of ---- to be sure. I didn't know
> > Europeans, except the italians, could make a piece of ---- engine that
> > bad til then.
> >
>
> Isn't that the same engine that was used in the Eagle Premiere and at
> least the early LH cars? (and the Delorean come to think of it).
Yes.
>
> My Mom had one of those Premieres and it was a really nice car, kind of
> weird but a nice car. Oddly enough pretty much everything broke (except
> the engine) until the extended warranty ran out, she hardly had any
> trouble with it again the rest of the time she had it.
Her experience is unusual in that usually everything including the
engine went bad on those things.
09-17-2006, 08:53 PM
#113
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Re: How Many Miles?
XS11E proclaimed:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
09-17-2006, 08:53 PM
#114
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Re: How Many Miles?
XS11E proclaimed:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
09-17-2006, 08:53 PM
#115
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Re: How Many Miles?
XS11E proclaimed:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1158535552.291299.42130@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
>>The SU was another matter: a good easy carb to work on once you
>>learned how.
>
>
> The biggest fix I ever made in my Triumph TR3 days was going to a
> plumbing supply store and buying neoprene "O" rings to replace all the
> cork gaskets that SU used, that seemed to stop all the gas leaks and
> seepage.....
I wonder if they used different gaskets on different years and models?
On a 64 TR Spitfire, the darned things dripped as much gas as went into
the manifolds. On a 64 TR4, I did much the same as you, replace all the
cork looking stuff and the jet lines and got rid of all the leaks. On a
66 MGB never had any leaks to begin with. The best SU carbs were the
Japanese copies used on the Datsun 2000, never needed touching after one
application of a UniSyn.
09-17-2006, 09:04 PM
#116
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Re: How Many Miles?
I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
09-17-2006, 09:04 PM
#117
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Re: How Many Miles?
I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
09-17-2006, 09:04 PM
#118
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Re: How Many Miles?
I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
> thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
> 50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
> has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
> some.
>
> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
> engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
09-17-2006, 09:44 PM
#119
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Re: How Many Miles?
Bill lives in a very restricted area of southern california. In the
rest of the state, the japanese vehicles on the road outnumber the
domestic ones.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
> than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
>>thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
>>50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
>>has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
>>some.
>>
>> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
>>engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
rest of the state, the japanese vehicles on the road outnumber the
domestic ones.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
> than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
>>thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
>>50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
>>has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
>>some.
>>
>> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
>>engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
09-17-2006, 09:44 PM
#120
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Re: How Many Miles?
Bill lives in a very restricted area of southern california. In the
rest of the state, the japanese vehicles on the road outnumber the
domestic ones.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
> than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
>>thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
>>50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
>>has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
>>some.
>>
>> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
>>engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.
rest of the state, the japanese vehicles on the road outnumber the
domestic ones.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I live in Southern California, there are no Japanese cars older
> than fifteen years, and few make it ten!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> *** talking some more are we Bill?? Yes. The last time I was in LA one
>>thing that surprised me was the number of Brit and Jap cars from the
>>50s, 60s, 70s (the 240Z is 33+ years old now) on the road. The tin worm
>>has kiled them all out here. The engines ran up to the end and then
>>some.
>>
>> The OHC Nissan 4 and 6 were long running engines as were such Toyota
>>engines as the 20R and 22R. Heavy though.