How Many Miles?
 

I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.

Any opinions on wither of these statements?

Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L inline
six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee, it only was
produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they perferred to have an engine
that was produced for other vehicles as well for economy of production. The
'07 Wrangler has a V6 that is also used in Chrysler minivans (although with
a different driveline layout). It is not the same engine as found in the
Liberty.

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L inline
six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee, it only was
produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they perferred to have an engine
that was produced for other vehicles as well for economy of production. The
'07 Wrangler has a V6 that is also used in Chrysler minivans (although with
a different driveline layout). It is not the same engine as found in the
Liberty.

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L inline
six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee, it only was
produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they perferred to have an engine
that was produced for other vehicles as well for economy of production. The
'07 Wrangler has a V6 that is also used in Chrysler minivans (although with
a different driveline layout). It is not the same engine as found in the
Liberty.

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agree 100%. 4.0L is one of the best engines ever made.

Carl

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agree 100%. 4.0L is one of the best engines ever made.

Carl

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Agree 100%. 4.0L is one of the best engines ever made.

Carl

"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I agree with the guy. My Cherokee had about 300,000 miles on it when a
rod bearing started knocking.

Had a top quality rebuilt engine put in and I'm going for at least 500,000.

That little Cherokee is the best car I've ever had, by far.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I agree with the guy. My Cherokee had about 300,000 miles on it when a
rod bearing started knocking.

Had a top quality rebuilt engine put in and I'm going for at least 500,000.

That little Cherokee is the best car I've ever had, by far.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I agree with the guy. My Cherokee had about 300,000 miles on it when a
rod bearing started knocking.

Had a top quality rebuilt engine put in and I'm going for at least 500,000.

That little Cherokee is the best car I've ever had, by far.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I'm sitting on just over 209,000 now. It started smoking on idle, but
I cleaned out the valve cover and the crankcase vent tube and she's
looking good for more miles. I just bought a new liberty, so I'm
looking for a new home for the old girl. Sure wish the clearcoat held
up near as well as the engine.
Scott

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
>tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
>the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
>iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
>produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
>him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
>and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
>Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
>Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I'm sitting on just over 209,000 now. It started smoking on idle, but
I cleaned out the valve cover and the crankcase vent tube and she's
looking good for more miles. I just bought a new liberty, so I'm
looking for a new home for the old girl. Sure wish the clearcoat held
up near as well as the engine.
Scott

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
>tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
>the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
>iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
>produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
>him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
>and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
>Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
>Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

I'm sitting on just over 209,000 now. It started smoking on idle, but
I cleaned out the valve cover and the crankcase vent tube and she's
looking good for more miles. I just bought a new liberty, so I'm
looking for a new home for the old girl. Sure wish the clearcoat held
up near as well as the engine.
Scott

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
>tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
>the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
>iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
>produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
>him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
>and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
>Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
>Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.

From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

--
DougW

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.

From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

--
DougW

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.

From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

--
DougW

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Nash design the seven main six in 1926: Pictured:
http://www.----------.com/temp/NashAds.jpg They just added a water pump
and spin-on oil filter:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
Brochure stating 31 MPG:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nash31milesBorchure.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/temp/

sam owens wrote:
>
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Nash design the seven main six in 1926: Pictured:
http://www.----------.com/temp/NashAds.jpg They just added a water pump
and spin-on oil filter:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
Brochure stating 31 MPG:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nash31milesBorchure.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/temp/

sam owens wrote:
>
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Nash design the seven main six in 1926: Pictured:
http://www.----------.com/temp/NashAds.jpg They just added a water pump
and spin-on oil filter:
http://www.pnwnash.org/common/closeu...rsonid=&carid=
Brochure stating 31 MPG:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nash31milesBorchure.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/temp/

sam owens wrote:
>
> I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Super motor -- My 91 Wrangler just turned 256,000mi on it's 4.0L. It leaks
more oil than it burns.

Scott
"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Super motor -- My 91 Wrangler just turned 256,000mi on it's 4.0L. It leaks
more oil than it burns.

Scott
"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Super motor -- My 91 Wrangler just turned 256,000mi on it's 4.0L. It leaks
more oil than it burns.

Scott
"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:b8chg2dv33m86vgs5906lg47rboov21gri@4ax.com...
>I was talking with a guy at the collision shop in Ingalls and he was
> tellin' me that the engine that is in my 98 Cherokee Sport was among
> the best engines ever designed and has been around in various
> iterations since the 60's. He lamented that Chrysler decided not to
> produce that engine any longer and feels that it is a mistake. I asked
> him how many miles might I expect to get if I take care od business
> and he felt 250,000 wasn't out of line. I have 138,000 now.
>
> Any opinions on wither of these statements?
>
> Sam

Re: How Many Miles?
 

DougW wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> > inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> > it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> > perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> > well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> > also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> > layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.
>
> From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
> and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
> expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

Tooling isn't the cost of an engine design it was even 20 years ago.
You design an engine in 3D CAD and produce patterns and core boxes very
cheaply, relatively speaking. Iron castings are produced in sand, or
smaller ones by investment casting. Permanent molds are limited to
materials such as aluminum. The bottom line is the old pushrod engine
is considered a throwback by the engineers.
>
> The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
> there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

The inline 6 is the most perfectly balanced engine there is except for
the V12. Almost every over the road truck in the US today has a I6
engine.

I would have rather they used a four cylinder version of the Hemi as
the base engine (one bank, same head) and either the MBZ diesel V6 or
the Magnum V6 as upgrades. What do I know?

Re: How Many Miles?
 

DougW wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> > inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> > it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> > perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> > well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> > also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> > layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.
>
> From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
> and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
> expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

Tooling isn't the cost of an engine design it was even 20 years ago.
You design an engine in 3D CAD and produce patterns and core boxes very
cheaply, relatively speaking. Iron castings are produced in sand, or
smaller ones by investment casting. Permanent molds are limited to
materials such as aluminum. The bottom line is the old pushrod engine
is considered a throwback by the engineers.
>
> The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
> there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

The inline 6 is the most perfectly balanced engine there is except for
the V12. Almost every over the road truck in the US today has a I6
engine.

I would have rather they used a four cylinder version of the Hemi as
the base engine (one bank, same head) and either the MBZ diesel V6 or
the Magnum V6 as upgrades. What do I know?

Re: How Many Miles?
 

DougW wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Agreed on all counts. I think D-C's decision to discontinue the 4.0L
> > inline six was mainly because since they discontinued the Cherokee,
> > it only was produced for one vehicle, the Wrangler, and they
> > perferred to have an engine that was produced for other vehicles as
> > well for economy of production. The '07 Wrangler has a V6 that is
> > also used in Chrysler minivans (although with a different driveline
> > layout). It is not the same engine as found in the Liberty.
>
> From what I understand the decision was based on the production molds
> and equipment simply getting worn out and that retooling was too
> expensive. Of course that could be pure bull..

Tooling isn't the cost of an engine design it was even 20 years ago.
You design an engine in 3D CAD and produce patterns and core boxes very
cheaply, relatively speaking. Iron castings are produced in sand, or
smaller ones by investment casting. Permanent molds are limited to
materials such as aluminum. The bottom line is the old pushrod engine
is considered a throwback by the engineers.
>
> The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
> there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

The inline 6 is the most perfectly balanced engine there is except for
the V12. Almost every over the road truck in the US today has a I6
engine.

I would have rather they used a four cylinder version of the Hemi as
the base engine (one bank, same head) and either the MBZ diesel V6 or
the Magnum V6 as upgrades. What do I know?

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:34:06 -0500, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address>:

<snip>

>The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
>there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:34:06 -0500, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address>:

<snip>

>The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
>there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:34:06 -0500, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address>:

<snip>

>The I6 is a nice engine to be sure, but there are better engines out
>there now with more power and less of the balance issues the I6 has.

What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.

I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.

I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.

I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
be one of them and I wasn't.

Check put my rig here:

http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.

I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.

I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.

I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
be one of them and I wasn't.

Check put my rig here:

http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg

Re: How Many Miles?
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:

I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.

I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.

I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.

I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
be one of them and I wasn't.

Check put my rig here:

http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Sam, Have you ever tried taking off that trailer tailgate and see if that
makes a difference behind your Jeep.

Even with the vent openings I would think that has to be creating a lot of
drag.



"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:cg3kg2doppfusnmjausgkmi6qbev9bkjd9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.
>
> Check put my rig here:
>
> http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg
>

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Sam, Have you ever tried taking off that trailer tailgate and see if that
makes a difference behind your Jeep.

Even with the vent openings I would think that has to be creating a lot of
drag.



"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:cg3kg2doppfusnmjausgkmi6qbev9bkjd9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.
>
> Check put my rig here:
>
> http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg
>

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Sam, Have you ever tried taking off that trailer tailgate and see if that
makes a difference behind your Jeep.

Even with the vent openings I would think that has to be creating a lot of
drag.



"sam owens" <sam@sam.com> wrote in message
news:cg3kg2doppfusnmjausgkmi6qbev9bkjd9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.
>
> Check put my rig here:
>
> http://www.coyoterock.net/pix/wyoming%20or%20utah.jpg
>

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Bob Casanova wrote:

> What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
> perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
> counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
> imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
> possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
> --


Very few V6s have balance shafts. If the engine is at 60 or 120
degrees it runs pretty smoothly. Rotax is making a 4 cycle 120 degree
V6 that looks very attractive as a marine engine.

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Bob Casanova wrote:

> What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
> perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
> counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
> imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
> possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
> --


Very few V6s have balance shafts. If the engine is at 60 or 120
degrees it runs pretty smoothly. Rotax is making a 4 cycle 120 degree
V6 that looks very attractive as a marine engine.

Re: How Many Miles?
 

Bob Casanova wrote:

> What balance issues? An properly designed inline 6 has
> perfect primary and secondary balance; a V6 needs a
> counterbalance shaft to correct the inherent secondary
> imbalance. The only issue I know of with an inline 6 is the
> possibility of crankshaft twist due to the increased length.
> --


Very few V6s have balance shafts. If the engine is at 60 or 120
degrees it runs pretty smoothly. Rotax is making a 4 cycle 120 degree
V6 that looks very attractive as a marine engine.

Re: How Many Miles?
 

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.

People who live there get oversize radiators. And, trans and PS
coolers if they are smart.

Re: How Many Miles?
 

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.

People who live there get oversize radiators. And, trans and PS
coolers if they are smart.

Re: How Many Miles?
 

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:36:20 -0500, sam owens <sam@sam.com> wrote:
>
> I felt that the guy was truthin' it cause he wasn't selling me
> anything. Thanks for the replies and knowledge.
>
> I drove my Jeep from Michigan's UP to San Fran and put on >5.5k It was
> cool. I kept my speed at 60 mph 95% of the time and I almost never let
> it accelerate from cruise going up a mountain at that speed.
>
> I wondered frequently how fast I'd be going at the chosen power I gave
> the engine if I hadn't been hauling the trailer and my 700 lb + bike.
>
> I saw many dead cars along the high Nevada desert and I didn't want to
> be one of them and I wasn't.

People who live there get oversize radiators. And, trans and PS
coolers if they are smart.