Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.

Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:

>I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide to
>take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage wall....never
>again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
>raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the hood and
>it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if placed
>under the spring plates.
>
>"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
>> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most useful
>> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a jack,
>a
>> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker... Just
>> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your vehicle.
>> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
>>
>> --
>> Jim
>> --
>> 98 TJ SE
>> 90 SJ GW
>> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
>> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing or
>> > something like that.
>> >
>> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
>> >
>> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
>> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to be
>> used in
>> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
>> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
>>
>>
>

 

David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> Dave
> http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide to
> >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
wall....never
> >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the hood
and
> >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if placed
> >under the spring plates.
> >
> >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
useful
> >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
jack,
> >a
> >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
Just
> >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
vehicle.
> >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim
> >> --
> >> 98 TJ SE
> >> 90 SJ GW
> >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing or
> >> > something like that.
> >> >
> >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> >> >
> >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
be
> >> used in
> >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> >>
> >>
> >
>

 

David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> Dave
> http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide to
> >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
wall....never
> >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the hood
and
> >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if placed
> >under the spring plates.
> >
> >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
useful
> >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
jack,
> >a
> >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
Just
> >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
vehicle.
> >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim
> >> --
> >> 98 TJ SE
> >> 90 SJ GW
> >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing or
> >> > something like that.
> >> >
> >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> >> >
> >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
be
> >> used in
> >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> >>
> >>
> >
>

 

David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> Dave
> http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide to
> >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
wall....never
> >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the hood
and
> >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if placed
> >under the spring plates.
> >
> >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
useful
> >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
jack,
> >a
> >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
Just
> >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
vehicle.
> >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim
> >> --
> >> 98 TJ SE
> >> 90 SJ GW
> >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing or
> >> > something like that.
> >> >
> >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> >> >
> >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
be
> >> used in
> >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> >>
> >>
> >
>

 

Well ya Jerry, I'm not saying that I 'like' using the Hi Lift, which
is why I mentioned that I'd be looking for a way to use my standard
hydraulic for the tire rotations. Just saying that a Hi Lift isn't
*that* bad is all hehehehe. :-)

Dave

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:37:09 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
>work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
>floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
>and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
>Jerry

 

Well ya Jerry, I'm not saying that I 'like' using the Hi Lift, which
is why I mentioned that I'd be looking for a way to use my standard
hydraulic for the tire rotations. Just saying that a Hi Lift isn't
*that* bad is all hehehehe. :-)

Dave

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:37:09 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
>work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
>floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
>and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
>Jerry

 

Well ya Jerry, I'm not saying that I 'like' using the Hi Lift, which
is why I mentioned that I'd be looking for a way to use my standard
hydraulic for the tire rotations. Just saying that a Hi Lift isn't
*that* bad is all hehehehe. :-)

Dave

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:37:09 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else will
>work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
>floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that unstable
>and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
>Jerry

 

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.

For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint for
use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks similar
to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic jacks
and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow to
raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember are
that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by the
jack for the least amount of time...

 

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.

For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint for
use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks similar
to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic jacks
and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow to
raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember are
that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by the
jack for the least amount of time...

 

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.

For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint for
use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks similar
to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic jacks
and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow to
raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember are
that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by the
jack for the least amount of time...