How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
06-06-2005, 07:29 AM
#221
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
John Davies wrote:
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 02:48 PM
#222
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 02:48 PM
#223
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 02:48 PM
#224
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 02:48 PM
#225
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a
stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
B a r r y wrote:
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
>
> Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
>
> With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
> absorbed by the vehicle.
06-07-2005, 06:00 PM
#226
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters...
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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06-07-2005, 06:00 PM
#227
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters...
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
06-07-2005, 06:00 PM
#228
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters...
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
06-07-2005, 06:00 PM
#229
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters...
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
MidnightDad wrote:
> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure
> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may
> have to sell it.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
06-13-2005, 04:17 PM
#230
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Quebec Canada wasn't it?
/Peter
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:pCnoe.45346$G8.17164@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros
made
> ? They were a US design weren't they ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> > doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
/Peter
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:pCnoe.45346$G8.17164@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros
made
> ? They were a US design weren't they ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> > doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
