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twaldron wrote:
>
> What caliber bullet did you use to shoot him in the head?
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

 

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twaldron wrote:
>
> What caliber bullet did you use to shoot him in the head?
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

 

Hi Earle,
There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
while you were on vacation from this group.
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is encouraged
> there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
while you were on vacation from this group.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is encouraged
> there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
while you were on vacation from this group.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is encouraged
> there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
>
> Earle

 

I know good people from Austin, but a certain nurse whom we like to call Dr.
Foley comes from there too. He's hiding there now in fact. There is no
reason a storm could not cross the equator. The clockwise/counter-clockwise
effect is only strong enough to give storms their initial orientation. It
is not strong enough to stop a storm dead in its tracks, or to cause it to
dissipate, as many slack jawed yokels believe. Be aware however, that
established weather patterns and currents, tend to keep to their own side of
the Equator. You were probably both right.

When I was in high school, I read in Time Magazine Science Section, how
somebody had constructed a huge, perfectly circular bathtub, with the drain
exactly in the center, and filled it up with water, which was allowed to
become perfectly still, just so that he could determine, once and for all,
which way water swirls down the drain. Your tax dollars at work.

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445944B3.4C501329@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
> over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
> while you were on vacation from this group.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is
encouraged
> > there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
> >
> > Earle

 

I know good people from Austin, but a certain nurse whom we like to call Dr.
Foley comes from there too. He's hiding there now in fact. There is no
reason a storm could not cross the equator. The clockwise/counter-clockwise
effect is only strong enough to give storms their initial orientation. It
is not strong enough to stop a storm dead in its tracks, or to cause it to
dissipate, as many slack jawed yokels believe. Be aware however, that
established weather patterns and currents, tend to keep to their own side of
the Equator. You were probably both right.

When I was in high school, I read in Time Magazine Science Section, how
somebody had constructed a huge, perfectly circular bathtub, with the drain
exactly in the center, and filled it up with water, which was allowed to
become perfectly still, just so that he could determine, once and for all,
which way water swirls down the drain. Your tax dollars at work.

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445944B3.4C501329@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
> over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
> while you were on vacation from this group.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is
encouraged
> > there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
> >
> > Earle

 

I know good people from Austin, but a certain nurse whom we like to call Dr.
Foley comes from there too. He's hiding there now in fact. There is no
reason a storm could not cross the equator. The clockwise/counter-clockwise
effect is only strong enough to give storms their initial orientation. It
is not strong enough to stop a storm dead in its tracks, or to cause it to
dissipate, as many slack jawed yokels believe. Be aware however, that
established weather patterns and currents, tend to keep to their own side of
the Equator. You were probably both right.

When I was in high school, I read in Time Magazine Science Section, how
somebody had constructed a huge, perfectly circular bathtub, with the drain
exactly in the center, and filled it up with water, which was allowed to
become perfectly still, just so that he could determine, once and for all,
which way water swirls down the drain. Your tax dollars at work.

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445944B3.4C501329@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There was a jerk whom lived in Austin, that I would argue with me
> over whether, the same weather storm could cross the equator. This was
> while you were on vacation from this group.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Seattle is a little like Austin. This sort of eccentricity is
encouraged
> > there. It is too weird, even for me. ;^)
> >
> > Earle

 

On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:13:04 -0600, Earle Horton wrote:

> There is no
> reason a storm could not cross the equator.

Coriolis effect.


If Coriolis force drives weather systems in one direction in the northern
hemisphere and another in the southern does this mean that hurricanes and
other weather systems cannot cross the Equator?

Worried about hurricanes crossing the equator ? The Coriolis force is
what we call an apparent force - it handles the problem that the earth
is spinning and thus a point on the globe is always changing direction
or always accelerating. You may also view Coriolis as a consequence of
the conservation of angular momentum. At the equator you have a great
deal as you are rotating about 25,000 miles in a day while someone on
the poles is not moving anywhere in the same period. From your and my
perspective air, rockets, and aircraft, are all deflected to the right
in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern. (Yes, they
correct for Coriolis when they shoot artillery shells!) The Coriolis
"force" is a maximum at the poles and zero at the equator.
Observations show that no hurricanes form within 5 degrees latitude of
the equator. People argue that the Coriolis force is too weak there to
get air to rotate around a low pressure rather than flow from high to
low pressure, which it does initially. If you can't get the air to
rotate you can't get a storm. This is a reason why genesis does not
occur at low latitudes but it does not explain why a developed
hurricane does not cross the equator.. Could a hurricane cross ? Yes,
because a well developed storm has plenty of spin that would dominate
the weak Coriolis force near there. If it crossed the Coriolis force
would be working against the initial direction of the spin, but it
would be dominated by what we call the relative vorticity of the
storm. Have we seen this happen ? Hurricanes can move south and get
close to the equator but I cannot find an example of one crossing in
the Atlantic or eastern Pacific. In the Indian Ocean some come closer
to pulling off this trick. Why don't they cross ? The variation in
Coriolis with latitude - called the Beta effect - actually will move a
hurricane to the NW in the northern hemisphere even if there is no
large scale wind pushing the storm along ! So, Coriolis not onlyseems
to be a necessary ingredient to make a storm, but it may also pull
them away from the equator making the crossing event a tough one to
pull off.

Gary Barnes, Professor of Meteorology Department of Meteorology
University of Hawaii, Honolulu HI 96822


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On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:13:04 -0600, Earle Horton wrote:

> There is no
> reason a storm could not cross the equator.

Coriolis effect.


If Coriolis force drives weather systems in one direction in the northern
hemisphere and another in the southern does this mean that hurricanes and
other weather systems cannot cross the Equator?

Worried about hurricanes crossing the equator ? The Coriolis force is
what we call an apparent force - it handles the problem that the earth
is spinning and thus a point on the globe is always changing direction
or always accelerating. You may also view Coriolis as a consequence of
the conservation of angular momentum. At the equator you have a great
deal as you are rotating about 25,000 miles in a day while someone on
the poles is not moving anywhere in the same period. From your and my
perspective air, rockets, and aircraft, are all deflected to the right
in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern. (Yes, they
correct for Coriolis when they shoot artillery shells!) The Coriolis
"force" is a maximum at the poles and zero at the equator.
Observations show that no hurricanes form within 5 degrees latitude of
the equator. People argue that the Coriolis force is too weak there to
get air to rotate around a low pressure rather than flow from high to
low pressure, which it does initially. If you can't get the air to
rotate you can't get a storm. This is a reason why genesis does not
occur at low latitudes but it does not explain why a developed
hurricane does not cross the equator.. Could a hurricane cross ? Yes,
because a well developed storm has plenty of spin that would dominate
the weak Coriolis force near there. If it crossed the Coriolis force
would be working against the initial direction of the spin, but it
would be dominated by what we call the relative vorticity of the
storm. Have we seen this happen ? Hurricanes can move south and get
close to the equator but I cannot find an example of one crossing in
the Atlantic or eastern Pacific. In the Indian Ocean some come closer
to pulling off this trick. Why don't they cross ? The variation in
Coriolis with latitude - called the Beta effect - actually will move a
hurricane to the NW in the northern hemisphere even if there is no
large scale wind pushing the storm along ! So, Coriolis not onlyseems
to be a necessary ingredient to make a storm, but it may also pull
them away from the equator making the crossing event a tough one to
pull off.

Gary Barnes, Professor of Meteorology Department of Meteorology
University of Hawaii, Honolulu HI 96822


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