Jeff Scramlin

I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install the
dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4". I'm
getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is almost
upside down. How can I fix this?

Jeff

Jeff Scramlin

Thanks Earle. I'm going to try not to use the dropped pitman arm if at all
possible. A buddy of mine just sent me this link:
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/align.htm which answered all of my
questions. Thanks again, Jeff


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:biaufp$78va4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
> > the dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
> > I'm getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
> > almost upside down. How can I fix this?
> >
>
> Install the drop Pitman arm. ;o) Or if it is like the YJ setup just
adjust
> the long rod or link that comes off the Pitman arm until the steering
wheel
> is centered. By the way, if that rod is not approximately level you will
> get some bump steer.
>
> Earle
>
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
>

Jeff Scramlin

Thanks Earle. I'm going to try not to use the dropped pitman arm if at all
possible. A buddy of mine just sent me this link:
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/align.htm which answered all of my
questions. Thanks again, Jeff


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:biaufp$78va4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
> > the dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
> > I'm getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
> > almost upside down. How can I fix this?
> >
>
> Install the drop Pitman arm. ;o) Or if it is like the YJ setup just
adjust
> the long rod or link that comes off the Pitman arm until the steering
wheel
> is centered. By the way, if that rod is not approximately level you will
> get some bump steer.
>
> Earle
>
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Adjust the toe-in to about 1/8", then adjust your drag link until the steering
wheel is centered. As far as bump-steer goes, the drag link's degree of level
isn't as critical as how parallel it is to the track bar. If you put the
dropped pitman arm in, you will almost certainly get bumpsteer as that will
change the plane of the drag link and it will no longer be parallel with the
track bar.

In article <I572b.7405$jY2.1810@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>, "Jeff
Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> writes:

>Thanks Earle. I'm going to try not to use the dropped pitman arm if at all
>possible. A buddy of mine just sent me this link:
>http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/align.htm which answered all of my
>questions. Thanks again, Jeff
>
>
>"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
>news:biaufp$78va4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
>> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
>> > the dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
>> > I'm getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
>> > almost upside down. How can I fix this?
>> >
>>
>> Install the drop Pitman arm. ;o) Or if it is like the YJ setup just
>adjust
>> the long rod or link that comes off the Pitman arm until the steering
>wheel
>> is centered. By the way, if that rod is not approximately level you will
>> get some bump steer.
>>


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Matt Macchiarolo

Adjust the toe-in to about 1/8", then adjust your drag link until the steering
wheel is centered. As far as bump-steer goes, the drag link's degree of level
isn't as critical as how parallel it is to the track bar. If you put the
dropped pitman arm in, you will almost certainly get bumpsteer as that will
change the plane of the drag link and it will no longer be parallel with the
track bar.

In article <I572b.7405$jY2.1810@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>, "Jeff
Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> writes:

>Thanks Earle. I'm going to try not to use the dropped pitman arm if at all
>possible. A buddy of mine just sent me this link:
>http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/align.htm which answered all of my
>questions. Thanks again, Jeff
>
>
>"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
>news:biaufp$78va4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
>> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
>> > the dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
>> > I'm getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
>> > almost upside down. How can I fix this?
>> >
>>
>> Install the drop Pitman arm. ;o) Or if it is like the YJ setup just
>adjust
>> the long rod or link that comes off the Pitman arm until the steering
>wheel
>> is centered. By the way, if that rod is not approximately level you will
>> get some bump steer.
>>


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Mike Romain

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
> the
> > dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4". I'm
> > getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is almost
> > upside down. How can I fix this?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Your steering wheel should not have moved that far. I would be looking at
> the parts you changed to make sure they are installed right.

It will go back about a quarter turn as soon as it gets a good off road
bouncing to loosen it up is my bet.

Steve Seppala adjusted his steering wheel straight after a 4" lift and
on the first good off road bounce run his wheel clocked off close to 30
deg. He was sure something had let loose, but nope, it just settled in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not install
> the
> > dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4". I'm
> > getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is almost
> > upside down. How can I fix this?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Your steering wheel should not have moved that far. I would be looking at
> the parts you changed to make sure they are installed right.

It will go back about a quarter turn as soon as it gets a good off road
bouncing to loosen it up is my bet.

Steve Seppala adjusted his steering wheel straight after a 4" lift and
on the first good off road bounce run his wheel clocked off close to 30
deg. He was sure something had let loose, but nope, it just settled in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Sean Prinz

The right answer is to take any vehicle in for a professional alignment
following a suspension lift. Let them adjust everything. If something is
out of spec and will lead to tire damage it is cheaper to fix now than
waiting for the tires to fail. just eye-balling the toe in is not the best
answer.

Sean
99TJ
2KXJ


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F4A46C0.5409C9FB@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not
install
> > the
> > > dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
I'm
> > > getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
almost
> > > upside down. How can I fix this?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Your steering wheel should not have moved that far. I would be looking
at
> > the parts you changed to make sure they are installed right.
>
> It will go back about a quarter turn as soon as it gets a good off road
> bouncing to loosen it up is my bet.
>
> Steve Seppala adjusted his steering wheel straight after a 4" lift and
> on the first good off road bounce run his wheel clocked off close to 30
> deg. He was sure something had let loose, but nope, it just settled in.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Sean Prinz

The right answer is to take any vehicle in for a professional alignment
following a suspension lift. Let them adjust everything. If something is
out of spec and will lead to tire damage it is cheaper to fix now than
waiting for the tires to fail. just eye-balling the toe in is not the best
answer.

Sean
99TJ
2KXJ


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F4A46C0.5409C9FB@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and JKS
> > > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not
install
> > the
> > > dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
I'm
> > > getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
almost
> > > upside down. How can I fix this?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Your steering wheel should not have moved that far. I would be looking
at
> > the parts you changed to make sure they are installed right.
>
> It will go back about a quarter turn as soon as it gets a good off road
> bouncing to loosen it up is my bet.
>
> Steve Seppala adjusted his steering wheel straight after a 4" lift and
> on the first good off road bounce run his wheel clocked off close to 30
> deg. He was sure something had let loose, but nope, it just settled in.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Gerald G. McGeorge

Indeed, with a TJ it's critical you get the thing aligned. Most leaf spring
lifts won't affect alignment at all (unless there's a longer shackle
involved), however the TJs a different matter due to the variables involved
in the control arm settings. Depending on the lift It's likely to be off
significantly or not at all.

Aligning the steering wheel is simple, just loosen the clamps on the drag
link (pitman to tie rod) sleeve, turn the drag link until the wheel returns
to a dead ahead position and tighten back down. FWIW, if the sleeve is
frozen on the drag link spray it down well with WD40, then heat it gently
with a torch to break the bond.



"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bieh6p$8abfl$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The right answer is to take any vehicle in for a professional alignment
> following a suspension lift. Let them adjust everything. If something is
> out of spec and will lead to tire damage it is cheaper to fix now than
> waiting for the tires to fail. just eye-balling the toe in is not the
best
> answer.
>
> Sean
> 99TJ
> 2KXJ
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F4A46C0.5409C9FB@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > "Jeff Scramlin" <jscramlin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iT62b.7388$jY2.4311@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > > > I just installed a Tera 3T lift, RE adjustable front track bar and
JKS
> > > > disconnects on my '01 TJ. (What a weekend of fun!) I did not
> install
> > > the
> > > > dropped pitman arm as I've heard it's not needed for lifts under 4".
> I'm
> > > > getting ready to do check toe-in, but noticed my steering wheel is
> almost
> > > > upside down. How can I fix this?
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Your steering wheel should not have moved that far. I would be looking
> at
> > > the parts you changed to make sure they are installed right.
> >
> > It will go back about a quarter turn as soon as it gets a good off road
> > bouncing to loosen it up is my bet.
> >
> > Steve Seppala adjusted his steering wheel straight after a 4" lift and
> > on the first good off road bounce run his wheel clocked off close to 30
> > deg. He was sure something had let loose, but nope, it just settled in.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>