hopping during turn
02-02-2005, 11:41 PM
#61
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Re: hopping during turn
1.5 hrs labor then don't forget the government's share
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Matt
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Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:daOdnYHVzNQV15zfRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
> Me neither. but I _have_ seen the bolt come lose and let the lever slid on
> the shaft. Even if the lever bends, sliding it on the shaft and tightening
> the bolt is as good a fix as any. $167 seems to be way more than it should
> cost to fix this.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4200E3A5.BEDFEA43@sympatico.ca...
> > Now you need to ask just 'how' this lever got bent?
> >
> > Do you have a snapped off tranny or engine mount? Did it hit
> > something? High center on a stump?
> >
> > I have seen some really twisted up rigs off road and have never heard of
> > the shift linkage being 'bent'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JEEPR wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks guys, it was $167 worth of bent lever to take out and
> straightened
> > > and re install. Pressed for time, she needs it to get to work, so
could
> not
> > > afford down time, also just have the driveway no shelter and although
> love
> > > to tinker I prefer fairer weather. Once again thanks for all the
input.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > 0|||||||0
> > > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:kO2dnVTjBuNaJGLcRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> > > > Well, that's easy to fix.
> > > >
> > > > The select lever goes through the floor and connects to a shaft. As
> you
> > > push
> > > > and pull the lever, it causes the shaft to slide in and out,
selecting
> the
> > > > available options in the tcase. There is a bolt that attaches
(clamps)
> the
> > > > lever to the shaft, the bolt is loose. The bolt can come loose, then
> bind
> > > on
> > > > the shaft in the incorrect position. Move the selector until N is
> > > selected,
> > > > not indicated but actually selected. Then losen the bolt so it does
> not
> > > hold
> > > > the lever to the shaft, and move the lever to the N position, then
> > > retighten
> > > > the bolt. Test and adjust as necessary.
> > > >
> > > > The bolt can be seen from underneath the vehicle, well, it can be
seen
> on
> > > a
> > > > Cherokee and a TJ, I am not certain about the Grand.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JEEPR" <YJJPS@nospam@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4CELd.4802$Ck1.853144@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > > > > It now appears that the shifter is out of sequence, when selected
to
> 2
> > > hi
> > > > > indicates part time, when selected part time indicates full time,
> when
> > > > > selected full time acts like neutral, when selected 4 lo indicates
> part
> > > > > time
> > > > > how's that for weird
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff thanks for your help tried the back up thing no joy, don't
give
> up
> > > on
> > > > > me if you got anymore hints drop them on me
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > > 0|||||||0
> > > > > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:TISdnRUPo8jL4GPcRVn-jA@ez2.net...
> > > > >> You are asking 2 questions here. It is OK to ask two questions,
but
> I
> > > > > wanted
> > > > >> you to be sure you understood that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1st, it sounds like you are using 4WD on dry pavement, and the
> drive
> > > > >> train
> > > > >> is binding up. This causes a hop or a wobble in the steering
wheel
> as
> > > the
> > > > >> tires try to slip on the ground to release the EXCESSIVE stress
you
> are
> > > > >> putting on it. If you continue to use 4WD on hard pavement, you
> WILL
> > > > > destroy
> > > > >> the tcase. It isn't a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2nd, if the tcase and/or front axles is bound up, then it can
> remain in
> > > > > 4WD
> > > > >> after you have selected 2WD. The way to get out of this bind is
to
> > > select
> > > > >> 2WD (2HI), then go in Reverse for about 25 ft. If the front end
is
> > > still
> > > > >> bound up, repeat Reverse. You might get it to drop out of the
bind
> if
> > > you
> > > > >> could find a place on dirt or gravel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> WHAT IS HAPPENING is that the transfer case can not accomodate
the
> > > speed
> > > > >> differences in the front and rear axles. Because of this
> fundamental
> > > > > truth,
> > > > >> then there will be stress built up in the tcase. If the tires are
> on
> > > dirt
> > > > > or
> > > > >> gravel, the stress is released because the tires are slipping.
> Because
> > > > >> you
> > > > >> are driving on the street, the stress can not be released easily
> and
> > > you
> > > > >> feel the buckling and lurching that results from the tires
slipping
> on
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> pavement. The differentials (large bulb-shaped parts in the
middle
> of
> > > the
> > > > >> axles) accomodate speed differences from left to right. These
> > > differences
> > > > >
> > > > >> come from the outside tire travelling further than the inside
tire
> > > during
> > > > > a
> > > > >> turn. The front and rear tires also travel different arcs in a
> turn,
> > > > >> therefore they also turn at different speeds. So, in 4WD, all
four
> > > tires
> > > > > can
> > > > >> turn at different speeds, this is especially true in the hard
turns
> > > that
> > > > > you
> > > > >> described in your symptoms. Not only do the left and right side
> tires
> > > go
> > > > >> different speeds, but the front and rear tires go at different
> speeds
> > > as
> > > > >> well. The tcase is not designed to accomodate the differences
from
> > > front
> > > > > to
> > > > >> rear, as the differentials are designed to do for right to left.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The front axle is connected to the driveshaft via a slip joint
kind
> of
> > > > >> arrangement inside the axle itself. When you select 4WD, either
4HI
> or
> > > > > 4LO,
> > > > >> there is vacuum that is supplied via the transfer case to the
front
> > > axle.
> > > > >> This vacuum activates a fork that moves the slip joint over
splines
> on
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> axle shaft. You are describing a symptom where the slip joint is
> not
> > > > >> releasing. A reason it is not is that the axle shafts are bound
up,
> and
> > > > > you
> > > > >> unbind them by going backwards. You do not need speed, in fact
> speed is
> > > > >> probably problematic for inducing the slip joint to release. You
> could
> > > > >> experiment with gently turning the steering wheel from side to
> side.
> > > This
> > > > >> will cause the axle halves to go at slightly different speeds,
and
> the
> > > > > slip
> > > > >> joint can slip more easily.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Your '88 YJ has the same limitations, by the way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "JEEPR" <YJJPS@nospam@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:uPfLd.1748$Ck1.334219@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > > > >> > The old ladies 98 grand cherokee is hopping when making sharp
rh
> or
> > > lh
> > > > >> > turns. She had not use the 4wd for a while until the recent
> snows.
> > > > >> > Could it be possible that the 4wd is stuck on even though 2 hi
> > > > >> > selected.
> > > > >> > Has anyone else experienced this
> > > > >> > What would be the cure.
> > > > >> > Mike Romain I would value your input on this one.
> > > > >> > Thanks to all for assistance.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Have a 88 yj myself and love the tinkering. Just want to make
> sure
> > > I'm
> > > > > on
> > > > >> > the right trac.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Matt
> > > > >> > 0|||||||0
> > > > >> > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
>
--
Matt
0|||||||0
Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:daOdnYHVzNQV15zfRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
> Me neither. but I _have_ seen the bolt come lose and let the lever slid on
> the shaft. Even if the lever bends, sliding it on the shaft and tightening
> the bolt is as good a fix as any. $167 seems to be way more than it should
> cost to fix this.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4200E3A5.BEDFEA43@sympatico.ca...
> > Now you need to ask just 'how' this lever got bent?
> >
> > Do you have a snapped off tranny or engine mount? Did it hit
> > something? High center on a stump?
> >
> > I have seen some really twisted up rigs off road and have never heard of
> > the shift linkage being 'bent'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JEEPR wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks guys, it was $167 worth of bent lever to take out and
> straightened
> > > and re install. Pressed for time, she needs it to get to work, so
could
> not
> > > afford down time, also just have the driveway no shelter and although
> love
> > > to tinker I prefer fairer weather. Once again thanks for all the
input.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > 0|||||||0
> > > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:kO2dnVTjBuNaJGLcRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> > > > Well, that's easy to fix.
> > > >
> > > > The select lever goes through the floor and connects to a shaft. As
> you
> > > push
> > > > and pull the lever, it causes the shaft to slide in and out,
selecting
> the
> > > > available options in the tcase. There is a bolt that attaches
(clamps)
> the
> > > > lever to the shaft, the bolt is loose. The bolt can come loose, then
> bind
> > > on
> > > > the shaft in the incorrect position. Move the selector until N is
> > > selected,
> > > > not indicated but actually selected. Then losen the bolt so it does
> not
> > > hold
> > > > the lever to the shaft, and move the lever to the N position, then
> > > retighten
> > > > the bolt. Test and adjust as necessary.
> > > >
> > > > The bolt can be seen from underneath the vehicle, well, it can be
seen
> on
> > > a
> > > > Cherokee and a TJ, I am not certain about the Grand.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JEEPR" <YJJPS@nospam@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4CELd.4802$Ck1.853144@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > > > > It now appears that the shifter is out of sequence, when selected
to
> 2
> > > hi
> > > > > indicates part time, when selected part time indicates full time,
> when
> > > > > selected full time acts like neutral, when selected 4 lo indicates
> part
> > > > > time
> > > > > how's that for weird
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff thanks for your help tried the back up thing no joy, don't
give
> up
> > > on
> > > > > me if you got anymore hints drop them on me
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > > 0|||||||0
> > > > > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:TISdnRUPo8jL4GPcRVn-jA@ez2.net...
> > > > >> You are asking 2 questions here. It is OK to ask two questions,
but
> I
> > > > > wanted
> > > > >> you to be sure you understood that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1st, it sounds like you are using 4WD on dry pavement, and the
> drive
> > > > >> train
> > > > >> is binding up. This causes a hop or a wobble in the steering
wheel
> as
> > > the
> > > > >> tires try to slip on the ground to release the EXCESSIVE stress
you
> are
> > > > >> putting on it. If you continue to use 4WD on hard pavement, you
> WILL
> > > > > destroy
> > > > >> the tcase. It isn't a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2nd, if the tcase and/or front axles is bound up, then it can
> remain in
> > > > > 4WD
> > > > >> after you have selected 2WD. The way to get out of this bind is
to
> > > select
> > > > >> 2WD (2HI), then go in Reverse for about 25 ft. If the front end
is
> > > still
> > > > >> bound up, repeat Reverse. You might get it to drop out of the
bind
> if
> > > you
> > > > >> could find a place on dirt or gravel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> WHAT IS HAPPENING is that the transfer case can not accomodate
the
> > > speed
> > > > >> differences in the front and rear axles. Because of this
> fundamental
> > > > > truth,
> > > > >> then there will be stress built up in the tcase. If the tires are
> on
> > > dirt
> > > > > or
> > > > >> gravel, the stress is released because the tires are slipping.
> Because
> > > > >> you
> > > > >> are driving on the street, the stress can not be released easily
> and
> > > you
> > > > >> feel the buckling and lurching that results from the tires
slipping
> on
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> pavement. The differentials (large bulb-shaped parts in the
middle
> of
> > > the
> > > > >> axles) accomodate speed differences from left to right. These
> > > differences
> > > > >
> > > > >> come from the outside tire travelling further than the inside
tire
> > > during
> > > > > a
> > > > >> turn. The front and rear tires also travel different arcs in a
> turn,
> > > > >> therefore they also turn at different speeds. So, in 4WD, all
four
> > > tires
> > > > > can
> > > > >> turn at different speeds, this is especially true in the hard
turns
> > > that
> > > > > you
> > > > >> described in your symptoms. Not only do the left and right side
> tires
> > > go
> > > > >> different speeds, but the front and rear tires go at different
> speeds
> > > as
> > > > >> well. The tcase is not designed to accomodate the differences
from
> > > front
> > > > > to
> > > > >> rear, as the differentials are designed to do for right to left.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The front axle is connected to the driveshaft via a slip joint
kind
> of
> > > > >> arrangement inside the axle itself. When you select 4WD, either
4HI
> or
> > > > > 4LO,
> > > > >> there is vacuum that is supplied via the transfer case to the
front
> > > axle.
> > > > >> This vacuum activates a fork that moves the slip joint over
splines
> on
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> axle shaft. You are describing a symptom where the slip joint is
> not
> > > > >> releasing. A reason it is not is that the axle shafts are bound
up,
> and
> > > > > you
> > > > >> unbind them by going backwards. You do not need speed, in fact
> speed is
> > > > >> probably problematic for inducing the slip joint to release. You
> could
> > > > >> experiment with gently turning the steering wheel from side to
> side.
> > > This
> > > > >> will cause the axle halves to go at slightly different speeds,
and
> the
> > > > > slip
> > > > >> joint can slip more easily.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Your '88 YJ has the same limitations, by the way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "JEEPR" <YJJPS@nospam@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:uPfLd.1748$Ck1.334219@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > > > >> > The old ladies 98 grand cherokee is hopping when making sharp
rh
> or
> > > lh
> > > > >> > turns. She had not use the 4wd for a while until the recent
> snows.
> > > > >> > Could it be possible that the 4wd is stuck on even though 2 hi
> > > > >> > selected.
> > > > >> > Has anyone else experienced this
> > > > >> > What would be the cure.
> > > > >> > Mike Romain I would value your input on this one.
> > > > >> > Thanks to all for assistance.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Have a 88 yj myself and love the tinkering. Just want to make
> sure
> > > I'm
> > > > > on
> > > > >> > the right trac.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Matt
> > > > >> > 0|||||||0
> > > > >> > Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
>
02-03-2005, 01:04 PM
#65
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: hopping during turn
If you know that this is a problem, then stop doing it.
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-03-2005, 01:04 PM
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: hopping during turn
If you know that this is a problem, then stop doing it.
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-03-2005, 01:04 PM
#67
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Re: hopping during turn
If you know that this is a problem, then stop doing it.
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Driving on the street in 4WD will eventually destroy your tcase. It is the
4x4 World's equivelent of dragging your finger nails across a chalkboard,
stop doing it.
"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:0F9Md.18306$Vj3.5260@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
"Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in 4
wheel.
Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement in
4X4.
> > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening. That
> > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that problem
> > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > It is continuous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-03-2005, 01:05 PM
#68
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Re: hopping during turn
I would use, "trying to explode."
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-03-2005, 01:05 PM
#69
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Re: hopping during turn
I would use, "trying to explode."
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-03-2005, 01:05 PM
#70
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Re: hopping during turn
I would use, "trying to explode."
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42012CA2.763BEB81@sympatico.ca...
> 'Grabbing' is the term I would use...
> ;-)
>
> Mike
>
> Musashi wrote:
> >
> > "Crabbing" was the term used by my Jeep dealer (service dept) for the
> > front wheels shaking when making a hard turn on hard pavement while in
4 wheel.
> > Not that my Jeep dealer is any genius.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:420114EF.DAA54F7A@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, around here anyway, 'crabbing' or 'crab walking' is a locked rear
> > > diff vehicle trying to go up a snowy hill.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Musashi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is probably "crabbing".
> > > > I get that on my 99 cherokee as well on sharp turns on dry pavement
in 4X4.
> > > > Doesn't happen on snow or dirt.
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:PAuLd.723$Tt.599@fed1read05...
> > > > > That it's being driven in 4x4 on pavement is why it's happening.
That
> > > > > particular transfer case is designed for use offroad and that
problem
> > > > > will happen whenever it's driven on any surface that has good
traction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > JEEPR wrote:
> > > > > > It happens on drive pavement and tire press ok
> > > > > > It is continuous.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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