hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.


"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Your distributor cap should have a mark of some type (some have a 1, some have
a circle or dot) telling you which is #1. The firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2,
i believe. If i remember correctly the #1 wire will be approx. 5 o'clock on
the distributor. Put the cap on the distributor and check your shop manual for
correct orientation. I like to use the hold-down as a reference.

Don W

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Your distributor cap should have a mark of some type (some have a 1, some have
a circle or dot) telling you which is #1. The firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2,
i believe. If i remember correctly the #1 wire will be approx. 5 o'clock on
the distributor. Put the cap on the distributor and check your shop manual for
correct orientation. I like to use the hold-down as a reference.

Don W

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Your distributor cap should have a mark of some type (some have a 1, some have
a circle or dot) telling you which is #1. The firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2,
i believe. If i remember correctly the #1 wire will be approx. 5 o'clock on
the distributor. Put the cap on the distributor and check your shop manual for
correct orientation. I like to use the hold-down as a reference.

Don W

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Your distributor cap should have a mark of some type (some have a 1, some have
a circle or dot) telling you which is #1. The firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2,
i believe. If i remember correctly the #1 wire will be approx. 5 o'clock on
the distributor. Put the cap on the distributor and check your shop manual for
correct orientation. I like to use the hold-down as a reference.

Don W

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
cylinder id as follows:
left
7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
8 6 4 2
right

The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n8gr705p5pcnmjm4r24ug5tjou6appi541@4ax.com...
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
cylinder id as follows:
left
7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
8 6 4 2
right

The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n8gr705p5pcnmjm4r24ug5tjou6appi541@4ax.com...
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
cylinder id as follows:
left
7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
8 6 4 2
right

The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n8gr705p5pcnmjm4r24ug5tjou6appi541@4ax.com...
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
cylinder id as follows:
left
7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
8 6 4 2
right

The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n8gr705p5pcnmjm4r24ug5tjou6appi541@4ax.com...
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

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Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>cylinder id as follows:
>left
>7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>8 6 4 2
>right
>
>The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.

But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
time when the gears mesh.

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>cylinder id as follows:
>left
>7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>8 6 4 2
>right
>
>The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.

But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
time when the gears mesh.

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>cylinder id as follows:
>left
>7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>8 6 4 2
>right
>
>The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.

But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
time when the gears mesh.

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>cylinder id as follows:
>left
>7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>8 6 4 2
>right
>
>The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.

But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
time when the gears mesh.

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:30:58 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg

Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
or counterclockwise? See what I mean?

>
>Shaggie wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:30:58 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg

Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
or counterclockwise? See what I mean?

>
>Shaggie wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:30:58 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg

Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
or counterclockwise? See what I mean?

>
>Shaggie wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:30:58 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/304_f_o.jpg

Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
or counterclockwise? See what I mean?

>
>Shaggie wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
the engine.

The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
cylinder as you face it.

This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.

Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
needed a special #1 location.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
the engine.

The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
cylinder as you face it.

This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.

Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
needed a special #1 location.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
the engine.

The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
cylinder as you face it.

This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.

Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
needed a special #1 location.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
the engine.

The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
cylinder as you face it.

This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.

Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
needed a special #1 location.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
electrode will pointing to position 1.

JimG


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >cylinder id as follows:
> >left
> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >8 6 4 2
> >right
> >
> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>
> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> time when the gears mesh.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
electrode will pointing to position 1.

JimG


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >cylinder id as follows:
> >left
> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >8 6 4 2
> >right
> >
> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>
> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> time when the gears mesh.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
electrode will pointing to position 1.

JimG


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >cylinder id as follows:
> >left
> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >8 6 4 2
> >right
> >
> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>
> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> time when the gears mesh.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
electrode will pointing to position 1.

JimG


"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >cylinder id as follows:
> >left
> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >8 6 4 2
> >right
> >
> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>
> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> time when the gears mesh.
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> the engine.
>
> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> cylinder as you face it.
>
> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>
> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> needed a special #1 location.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Shaggie wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >
> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> > :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> the engine.
>
> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> cylinder as you face it.
>
> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>
> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> needed a special #1 location.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Shaggie wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >
> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> > :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> the engine.
>
> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> cylinder as you face it.
>
> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>
> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> needed a special #1 location.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Shaggie wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >
> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> > :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> the engine.
>
> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> cylinder as you face it.
>
> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>
> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> needed a special #1 location.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Shaggie wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >
> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> > :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

It seems like you could drop it in any position, the star stays the
same in relation to the cap, and providing the vacuum diaphragm didn't
swing into anything, but it's never run quite right for me, like it's
cross firing when I've just went one up and followed the timing order
off the intake manifold.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
> cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
> arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
> or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
> next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
> Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
> just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise? See what I mean?
>
> >
> >Shaggie wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

It seems like you could drop it in any position, the star stays the
same in relation to the cap, and providing the vacuum diaphragm didn't
swing into anything, but it's never run quite right for me, like it's
cross firing when I've just went one up and followed the timing order
off the intake manifold.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
> cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
> arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
> or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
> next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
> Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
> just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise? See what I mean?
>
> >
> >Shaggie wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

It seems like you could drop it in any position, the star stays the
same in relation to the cap, and providing the vacuum diaphragm didn't
swing into anything, but it's never run quite right for me, like it's
cross firing when I've just went one up and followed the timing order
off the intake manifold.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
> cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
> arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
> or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
> next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
> Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
> just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise? See what I mean?
>
> >
> >Shaggie wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

It seems like you could drop it in any position, the star stays the
same in relation to the cap, and providing the vacuum diaphragm didn't
swing into anything, but it's never run quite right for me, like it's
cross firing when I've just went one up and followed the timing order
off the intake manifold.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. Now I won't have to dig out my manual to see which
> cylinder is which, but I still have the same question. Can I
> arbitrarily choose which terminal on the distributor I want to be #1
> or not as long as I wire that terminal to cylinder #1 and then the
> next terminal on the distributor moving CCW to cylinder #2, etc, etc?
> Maybe if I phrase the question another way... If my Jeep was running
> just fine would it matter at all if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise? See what I mean?
>
> >
> >Shaggie wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
>Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
>socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
>compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
>installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
>electrode will pointing to position 1.
>
>JimG

Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
"correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?

>
>
>"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>> >cylinder id as follows:
>> >left
>> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>> >8 6 4 2
>> >right
>> >
>> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>>
>> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
>> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
>> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
>> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
>> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
>> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
>> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
>> time when the gears mesh.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!
>

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
>Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
>socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
>compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
>installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
>electrode will pointing to position 1.
>
>JimG

Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
"correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?

>
>
>"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>> >cylinder id as follows:
>> >left
>> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>> >8 6 4 2
>> >right
>> >
>> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>>
>> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
>> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
>> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
>> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
>> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
>> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
>> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
>> time when the gears mesh.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!
>

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:

>If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
>Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
>socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
>compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
>installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
>electrode will pointing to position 1.
>
>JimG

Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
"correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?

>
>
>"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>> >cylinder id as follows:
>> >left
>> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>> >8 6 4 2
>> >right
>> >
>> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>>
>> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
>> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
>> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
>> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
>> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
>> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
>> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
>> time when the gears mesh.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!
>

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!