highway speed in full time 4X4?
01-07-2004, 03:27 PM
#201
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040107085049493-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 07 Jan 2004 06:50 AM, Bob posted the following:
> >
> > > And what are you talking about with the "Jeeps especially have rear
> > > antilock brakes" statement? Yeah, sure, it's available as an option,
> > > but I think a large majority of jeeps, and know a large majority of
> > > CARS out there don't necessarily have antilock rear brakes. (I sure as
> > > heck don't have antilock rear brakes on my D44!)
> >
> > According to Mike, the proportioning valve should be classified as an
> > ABS system, which it is not.
> >
>
> That's right Del, brakes that fail to lock are not necessarily ABS. It is
> certainly not an ABS system by intent. It might turn out to be a primitive
> form of ABS, but there was no design theory that made this happen.
Wow, I am amazed.
There is one and only one reason for a proportioning valve.
That is to prevent the rear wheels from locking up when hard braking.
That 'is' the design principle of the thing.
What doe the acronym ABS mean?
I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
the rear wheels.
What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040107085049493-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 07 Jan 2004 06:50 AM, Bob posted the following:
> >
> > > And what are you talking about with the "Jeeps especially have rear
> > > antilock brakes" statement? Yeah, sure, it's available as an option,
> > > but I think a large majority of jeeps, and know a large majority of
> > > CARS out there don't necessarily have antilock rear brakes. (I sure as
> > > heck don't have antilock rear brakes on my D44!)
> >
> > According to Mike, the proportioning valve should be classified as an
> > ABS system, which it is not.
> >
>
> That's right Del, brakes that fail to lock are not necessarily ABS. It is
> certainly not an ABS system by intent. It might turn out to be a primitive
> form of ABS, but there was no design theory that made this happen.
Wow, I am amazed.
There is one and only one reason for a proportioning valve.
That is to prevent the rear wheels from locking up when hard braking.
That 'is' the design principle of the thing.
What doe the acronym ABS mean?
I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
the rear wheels.
What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-07-2004, 03:27 PM
#202
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040107085049493-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 07 Jan 2004 06:50 AM, Bob posted the following:
> >
> > > And what are you talking about with the "Jeeps especially have rear
> > > antilock brakes" statement? Yeah, sure, it's available as an option,
> > > but I think a large majority of jeeps, and know a large majority of
> > > CARS out there don't necessarily have antilock rear brakes. (I sure as
> > > heck don't have antilock rear brakes on my D44!)
> >
> > According to Mike, the proportioning valve should be classified as an
> > ABS system, which it is not.
> >
>
> That's right Del, brakes that fail to lock are not necessarily ABS. It is
> certainly not an ABS system by intent. It might turn out to be a primitive
> form of ABS, but there was no design theory that made this happen.
Wow, I am amazed.
There is one and only one reason for a proportioning valve.
That is to prevent the rear wheels from locking up when hard braking.
That 'is' the design principle of the thing.
What doe the acronym ABS mean?
I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
the rear wheels.
What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040107085049493-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 07 Jan 2004 06:50 AM, Bob posted the following:
> >
> > > And what are you talking about with the "Jeeps especially have rear
> > > antilock brakes" statement? Yeah, sure, it's available as an option,
> > > but I think a large majority of jeeps, and know a large majority of
> > > CARS out there don't necessarily have antilock rear brakes. (I sure as
> > > heck don't have antilock rear brakes on my D44!)
> >
> > According to Mike, the proportioning valve should be classified as an
> > ABS system, which it is not.
> >
>
> That's right Del, brakes that fail to lock are not necessarily ABS. It is
> certainly not an ABS system by intent. It might turn out to be a primitive
> form of ABS, but there was no design theory that made this happen.
Wow, I am amazed.
There is one and only one reason for a proportioning valve.
That is to prevent the rear wheels from locking up when hard braking.
That 'is' the design principle of the thing.
What doe the acronym ABS mean?
I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
the rear wheels.
What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-07-2004, 04:03 PM
#203
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Depends upon if the person receiving the answer is dyslexic, in
which case s/he has just got the question.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
which case s/he has just got the question.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
01-07-2004, 04:03 PM
#204
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Depends upon if the person receiving the answer is dyslexic, in
which case s/he has just got the question.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
which case s/he has just got the question.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
01-07-2004, 04:03 PM
#205
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Depends upon if the person receiving the answer is dyslexic, in
which case s/he has just got the question.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
which case s/he has just got the question.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> That was three jobs ago Bill. Sheesh, can't you keep up at all? ;-)
>
> Regardless of the kind of writer one happens to be, the OP already had the
> question, he was LOOKING for an answer.
01-07-2004, 04:26 PM
#206
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-07-2004, 04:26 PM
#207
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-07-2004, 04:26 PM
#208
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> What doe the acronym ABS mean?
Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
flakes say it means.
>
> I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
Yes.
>
> The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> the rear wheels.
Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
rough time.
>
> What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
RWALPV.
Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
down in BSE land.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-07-2004, 04:38 PM
#209
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
LOL!
Good points.
Mike
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > What doe the acronym ABS mean?
>
> Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
> flakes say it means.
> >
> > I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
>
> Yes.
> >
> > The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> > the rear wheels.
>
> Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
> you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
> rough time.
> >
> > What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> > to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
>
> You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
> you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
> RWALPV.
>
> Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
> to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
> for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
> or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
> down in BSE land.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
Good points.
Mike
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > What doe the acronym ABS mean?
>
> Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
> flakes say it means.
> >
> > I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
>
> Yes.
> >
> > The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> > the rear wheels.
>
> Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
> you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
> rough time.
> >
> > What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> > to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
>
> You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
> you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
> RWALPV.
>
> Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
> to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
> for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
> or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
> down in BSE land.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-07-2004, 04:38 PM
#210
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Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
LOL!
Good points.
Mike
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > What doe the acronym ABS mean?
>
> Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
> flakes say it means.
> >
> > I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
>
> Yes.
> >
> > The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> > the rear wheels.
>
> Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
> you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
> rough time.
> >
> > What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> > to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
>
> You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
> you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
> RWALPV.
>
> Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
> to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
> for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
> or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
> down in BSE land.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
Good points.
Mike
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> Roughly 1/7/04 12:27, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > What doe the acronym ABS mean?
>
> Pretty much whatever the automobile engineers and marketing
> flakes say it means.
> >
> > I always thought it meant 'anti lock brake system'. Was I mistaken?
>
> Yes.
> >
> > The proportioning valve is there to 'prevent' the brakes from locking
> > the rear wheels.
>
> Which has nothing to do with ABS, which I am reasonably sure
> you already knew but are merely giving someone a deserved
> rough time.
> >
> > What does 'anti lock' mean? Could it mean to go against locking up or
> > to 'prevent' the brakes from locking the rear wheels or am I wrong?
>
> You're wrong. That is a proportioning valve. Or if
> you insist on an acronym, a PV. Or even perhaps
> RWALPV.
>
> Dunno what the fraud laws are up there, but you wouldn't want
> to try your argument as a sales pitch or even lawsuit defense
> for calling the proportioning valve an anti skid brake system
> or anti lock brake system and sell or advertise it as such
> down in BSE land.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.