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GRMatteson@gmail.com 06-28-2007 08:39 PM

highway rear axle hopping
 
I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
ideas?


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-28-2007 09:01 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
Replace the new shock absorbers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<GRMatteson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183077544.888806.184240@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-28-2007 09:01 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
Replace the new shock absorbers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<GRMatteson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183077544.888806.184240@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-28-2007 09:01 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
Replace the new shock absorbers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<GRMatteson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183077544.888806.184240@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-28-2007 09:01 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
Replace the new shock absorbers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<GRMatteson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183077544.888806.184240@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?
>




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DougW 06-28-2007 09:05 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
GRMatteson wrote:
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?


If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
broken where it bolts up to the frame?

The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

--
DougW



DougW 06-28-2007 09:05 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
GRMatteson wrote:
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?


If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
broken where it bolts up to the frame?

The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

--
DougW



DougW 06-28-2007 09:05 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
GRMatteson wrote:
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?


If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
broken where it bolts up to the frame?

The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

--
DougW



DougW 06-28-2007 09:05 PM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
GRMatteson wrote:
> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> ideas?


If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
broken where it bolts up to the frame?

The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

--
DougW



24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:29 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:01:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

You are a ------ by your own admission:

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Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
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mailto:--------------------


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Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
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mailto:--------------------

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:29 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:01:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

You are a ------ by your own admission:

L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:29 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:01:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

You are a ------ by your own admission:

L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:29 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:01:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

You are a ------ by your own admission:

L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 01:33 AM

Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 01:33 AM

Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile

babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 01:33 AM

Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile

babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 01:33 AM

Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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c 06-29-2007 08:42 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
DougW wrote:
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>


A bad shock absorber can also cause this, but the tire balance is also a
good thing to check.

Chris

c 06-29-2007 08:42 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
DougW wrote:
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>


A bad shock absorber can also cause this, but the tire balance is also a
good thing to check.

Chris

c 06-29-2007 08:42 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
DougW wrote:
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>


A bad shock absorber can also cause this, but the tire balance is also a
good thing to check.

Chris

c 06-29-2007 08:42 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
DougW wrote:
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>


A bad shock absorber can also cause this, but the tire balance is also a
good thing to check.

Chris

Anthony T 06-29-2007 10:50 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
nothing.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>



Anthony T 06-29-2007 10:50 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
nothing.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>



Anthony T 06-29-2007 10:50 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
nothing.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>



Anthony T 06-29-2007 10:50 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
nothing.


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
> GRMatteson wrote:
>> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
>> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
>> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
>> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
>> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
>> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
>> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
>> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
>> ideas?

>
> If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...
>
> Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> broken where it bolts up to the frame?
>
> The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.
>
> --
> DougW
>



GRMatteson@gmail.com 06-29-2007 11:04 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Jun 29, 10:50 am, "Anthony T" <b...@remail-it.net> wrote:
> I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
> move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
> friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
> tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
> nothing.
>
> "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote in message
>
> news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
>
>
>
> > GRMatteson wrote:
> >> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> >> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> >> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> >> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> >> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> >> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> >> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> >> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> >> ideas?

>
> > If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

>
> > Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> > broken where it bolts up to the frame?

>
> > The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> > if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

>
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks, I am on my way to the mechanic's now, and will put it on the
lift and look. Gary


GRMatteson@gmail.com 06-29-2007 11:04 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Jun 29, 10:50 am, "Anthony T" <b...@remail-it.net> wrote:
> I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
> move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
> friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
> tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
> nothing.
>
> "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote in message
>
> news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
>
>
>
> > GRMatteson wrote:
> >> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> >> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> >> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> >> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> >> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> >> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> >> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> >> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> >> ideas?

>
> > If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

>
> > Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> > broken where it bolts up to the frame?

>
> > The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> > if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

>
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks, I am on my way to the mechanic's now, and will put it on the
lift and look. Gary


GRMatteson@gmail.com 06-29-2007 11:04 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Jun 29, 10:50 am, "Anthony T" <b...@remail-it.net> wrote:
> I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
> move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
> friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
> tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
> nothing.
>
> "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote in message
>
> news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
>
>
>
> > GRMatteson wrote:
> >> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> >> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> >> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> >> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> >> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> >> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> >> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> >> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> >> ideas?

>
> > If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

>
> > Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> > broken where it bolts up to the frame?

>
> > The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> > if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

>
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks, I am on my way to the mechanic's now, and will put it on the
lift and look. Gary


GRMatteson@gmail.com 06-29-2007 11:04 AM

Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Jun 29, 10:50 am, "Anthony T" <b...@remail-it.net> wrote:
> I agree with Doug. My CJ-7 had loose U-Bolts and the entire axle used to
> move back and forth. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until my
> friend put the Jeep up on a lift and found the U-Bolts were lose. He
> tightened them up and the problem was gone. It's worth a look, and it costs
> nothing.
>
> "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote in message
>
> news:oVYgi.235459$NU1.9503@newsfe13.lga...
>
>
>
> > GRMatteson wrote:
> >> I'm sure this has happened to others--a 1993 Jeep Cherokee 5 speed
> >> with standard tires/wheels--while crossing bridge expansion joints or
> >> moderate broken pavement at 50mph or faster, the rear axle starts
> >> jumping up and down uncontrollably. The only way to stop it is to
> >> slow down below 35 mph. It feels like it starts in the right rear
> >> wheel, then quickly involves the whole axle. No visible spring
> >> damage, tires in good shape (and this happens at various tire
> >> pressures), new shock absorbers (a fix that didn't work). Got any
> >> ideas?

>
> > If it wasn't coming from the back I'd say deathwobble...

>
> > Do you have the anti sway bar removed or has one of the U clamps
> > broken where it bolts up to the frame?

>
> > The initial cause is often tire balance. Rotate the tires and see
> > if the problem moves or just take them in and have them balanced.

>
> > --
> > DougW- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks, I am on my way to the mechanic's now, and will put it on the
lift and look. Gary


24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:33:46 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:


I'm just not impressed with your trivial --------, really getting bored!

Pirated Software & Troll

Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
III"

You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
IPs.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Message-ID: <467c94a4$0$16392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:
http://www.----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
a novelty that gets old.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
just not by me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fraudulent Tax Reporting

My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:

You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
what they do.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

LIAR

We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
may not own a firearm, nor vote.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
the perverts for all I care.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wrong Again Fool!

That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g.../0004tree.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Can't Spell

That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which
have never been important to me.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Is a Homo

I am a homosexual. period!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bigot

My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for
myself
and family.
I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
:>abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:1569835oa6avlgg7mak3tnkl04fiqtv5ks@4ax.com. ..
:>><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:33:46 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:


I'm just not impressed with your trivial --------, really getting bored!

Pirated Software & Troll

Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
III"

You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
IPs.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Message-ID: <467c94a4$0$16392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:
http://www.----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
a novelty that gets old.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
just not by me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fraudulent Tax Reporting

My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:

You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
what they do.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

LIAR

We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
may not own a firearm, nor vote.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
the perverts for all I care.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wrong Again Fool!

That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g.../0004tree.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Can't Spell

That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which
have never been important to me.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Is a Homo

I am a homosexual. period!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bigot

My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for
myself
and family.
I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
:>abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:1569835oa6avlgg7mak3tnkl04fiqtv5ks@4ax.com. ..
:>><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:33:46 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:


I'm just not impressed with your trivial --------, really getting bored!

Pirated Software & Troll

Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
III"

You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
IPs.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Message-ID: <467c94a4$0$16392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:
http://www.----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
a novelty that gets old.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
just not by me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fraudulent Tax Reporting

My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:

You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
what they do.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

LIAR

We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
may not own a firearm, nor vote.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
the perverts for all I care.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wrong Again Fool!

That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g.../0004tree.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Can't Spell

That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which
have never been important to me.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Is a Homo

I am a homosexual. period!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bigot

My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for
myself
and family.
I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
:>abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:1569835oa6avlgg7mak3tnkl04fiqtv5ks@4ax.com. ..
:>><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>

24BitŪ 06-29-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:33:46 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:


I'm just not impressed with your trivial --------, really getting bored!

Pirated Software & Troll

Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
III"

You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
IPs.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Message-ID: <467c94a4$0$16392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:
http://www.----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
a novelty that gets old.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
just not by me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fraudulent Tax Reporting

My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:

You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
what they do.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

LIAR

We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
may not own a firearm, nor vote.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
the perverts for all I care.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wrong Again Fool!

That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g.../0004tree.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Can't Spell

That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which
have never been important to me.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Is a Homo

I am a homosexual. period!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


Message-ID: <4684100e$0$24191$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
Yup, now that I don't work for a living, I don't hang around girlies.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bigot

My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for
myself
and family.
I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
:>abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:1569835oa6avlgg7mak3tnkl04fiqtv5ks@4ax.com. ..
:>><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
:>babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org,
abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org,
abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org,
abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery
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Jeff Strickland 06-29-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
God Damn it Bill! Stop responding to this troll and maybe he'll go away.






Jeff Strickland 06-29-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
God Damn it Bill! Stop responding to this troll and maybe he'll go away.






Jeff Strickland 06-29-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Off Topic Re: highway rear axle hopping
 
God Damn it Bill! Stop responding to this troll and maybe he'll go away.







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