I love curmudgeons, pinkos.. well.. I just dunno ...
thanks for the welcome!

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:6_ydnWfUYPmqSLneRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill's our resident curmudgeon. He'll tell you I am our resident
: commie-pinko bleeding heart Al-Qaida loving propane-running liberal
weenie.
:
: "Who is he calling a pinko?"
:
: Welcome aboard....
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:DE0Ve.10416$_84.6960@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: > news:43248074.EE28745E@***.net...
: > : Sorry.
: > : God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Kate wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
:
:

 

I love curmudgeons, pinkos.. well.. I just dunno ...
thanks for the welcome!

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:6_ydnWfUYPmqSLneRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill's our resident curmudgeon. He'll tell you I am our resident
: commie-pinko bleeding heart Al-Qaida loving propane-running liberal
weenie.
:
: "Who is he calling a pinko?"
:
: Welcome aboard....
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:DE0Ve.10416$_84.6960@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: > news:43248074.EE28745E@***.net...
: > : Sorry.
: > : God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Kate wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
:
:

 

I love curmudgeons, pinkos.. well.. I just dunno ...
thanks for the welcome!

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:6_ydnWfUYPmqSLneRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill's our resident curmudgeon. He'll tell you I am our resident
: commie-pinko bleeding heart Al-Qaida loving propane-running liberal
weenie.
:
: "Who is he calling a pinko?"
:
: Welcome aboard....
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:DE0Ve.10416$_84.6960@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: > news:43248074.EE28745E@***.net...
: > : Sorry.
: > : God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Kate wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
:
:

 

Well Jenn...
It all started as a business trip, on the trip home I saw this lake bed...
it was right there beside the highway. It called my name.

It was in my 74 Chebby 4x4 pickemup truck. It was a good ol truck, would
pull and push and man it loved the mud.

I was goin like hell, mud flying everywhere when someone hollered "Whatever
you do don't...."
I let up off the gas to hear what he was saying and he finished with ".....
let up off the gas"


Glub

I could have told him I KNEW that, but it was too late. Of course, since it
was HIS fault, HE had to help dig her out.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ikn9i1tdouelp25m4enn01mtl43t2eoj09@4ax.com...
: With that attitude you will do fine. Just ignore any razzing and keep
asking. I
: dont know much about Libby's since I have a 98 TJ, but its always amusing
to hear
: about someone elses stuff (beats the hell out of telling the gang I busted
my rig
: _again_). So, do tell us more about that Montanna Mud. LOL!
:
: Having fun is what its all about. =)
: -jenn
:
:
: PS: I have the "MudBall".... http://jbjeep.terahex.com
:
:
:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:52:26 GMT, "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Billy Ray.
: >>I rather suspected this would be the case.
: >>I know it isn't what many consider a serious off roader but I plan to
have
: >>some fun with it.
: >>
: >>I don't think I am going to do any extreme rock climbing with it, or
putting
: >>a huge lift, or cutting the fenders off or anything like that.
: >>It only has 100 miles on it and still needs to be broken in.
: >>
: >>I considered other options, but this is the best for my lifestyle. I'm
no
: >>soccer mom, but I do need to haul my grandson now and then, so I
sacrificed
: >>my Cobra for this.
: >>It had better be fun or else.
: >>
: >>I'm used to getting ribbed and usually can handle it. When I get so I
can't
: >>I say so.

 

Well Jenn...
It all started as a business trip, on the trip home I saw this lake bed...
it was right there beside the highway. It called my name.

It was in my 74 Chebby 4x4 pickemup truck. It was a good ol truck, would
pull and push and man it loved the mud.

I was goin like hell, mud flying everywhere when someone hollered "Whatever
you do don't...."
I let up off the gas to hear what he was saying and he finished with ".....
let up off the gas"


Glub

I could have told him I KNEW that, but it was too late. Of course, since it
was HIS fault, HE had to help dig her out.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ikn9i1tdouelp25m4enn01mtl43t2eoj09@4ax.com...
: With that attitude you will do fine. Just ignore any razzing and keep
asking. I
: dont know much about Libby's since I have a 98 TJ, but its always amusing
to hear
: about someone elses stuff (beats the hell out of telling the gang I busted
my rig
: _again_). So, do tell us more about that Montanna Mud. LOL!
:
: Having fun is what its all about. =)
: -jenn
:
:
: PS: I have the "MudBall".... http://jbjeep.terahex.com
:
:
:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:52:26 GMT, "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Billy Ray.
: >>I rather suspected this would be the case.
: >>I know it isn't what many consider a serious off roader but I plan to
have
: >>some fun with it.
: >>
: >>I don't think I am going to do any extreme rock climbing with it, or
putting
: >>a huge lift, or cutting the fenders off or anything like that.
: >>It only has 100 miles on it and still needs to be broken in.
: >>
: >>I considered other options, but this is the best for my lifestyle. I'm
no
: >>soccer mom, but I do need to haul my grandson now and then, so I
sacrificed
: >>my Cobra for this.
: >>It had better be fun or else.
: >>
: >>I'm used to getting ribbed and usually can handle it. When I get so I
can't
: >>I say so.

 

Well Jenn...
It all started as a business trip, on the trip home I saw this lake bed...
it was right there beside the highway. It called my name.

It was in my 74 Chebby 4x4 pickemup truck. It was a good ol truck, would
pull and push and man it loved the mud.

I was goin like hell, mud flying everywhere when someone hollered "Whatever
you do don't...."
I let up off the gas to hear what he was saying and he finished with ".....
let up off the gas"


Glub

I could have told him I KNEW that, but it was too late. Of course, since it
was HIS fault, HE had to help dig her out.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ikn9i1tdouelp25m4enn01mtl43t2eoj09@4ax.com...
: With that attitude you will do fine. Just ignore any razzing and keep
asking. I
: dont know much about Libby's since I have a 98 TJ, but its always amusing
to hear
: about someone elses stuff (beats the hell out of telling the gang I busted
my rig
: _again_). So, do tell us more about that Montanna Mud. LOL!
:
: Having fun is what its all about. =)
: -jenn
:
:
: PS: I have the "MudBall".... http://jbjeep.terahex.com
:
:
:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:52:26 GMT, "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Billy Ray.
: >>I rather suspected this would be the case.
: >>I know it isn't what many consider a serious off roader but I plan to
have
: >>some fun with it.
: >>
: >>I don't think I am going to do any extreme rock climbing with it, or
putting
: >>a huge lift, or cutting the fenders off or anything like that.
: >>It only has 100 miles on it and still needs to be broken in.
: >>
: >>I considered other options, but this is the best for my lifestyle. I'm
no
: >>soccer mom, but I do need to haul my grandson now and then, so I
sacrificed
: >>my Cobra for this.
: >>It had better be fun or else.
: >>
: >>I'm used to getting ribbed and usually can handle it. When I get so I
can't
: >>I say so.

 

Well Jenn...
It all started as a business trip, on the trip home I saw this lake bed...
it was right there beside the highway. It called my name.

It was in my 74 Chebby 4x4 pickemup truck. It was a good ol truck, would
pull and push and man it loved the mud.

I was goin like hell, mud flying everywhere when someone hollered "Whatever
you do don't...."
I let up off the gas to hear what he was saying and he finished with ".....
let up off the gas"


Glub

I could have told him I KNEW that, but it was too late. Of course, since it
was HIS fault, HE had to help dig her out.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ikn9i1tdouelp25m4enn01mtl43t2eoj09@4ax.com...
: With that attitude you will do fine. Just ignore any razzing and keep
asking. I
: dont know much about Libby's since I have a 98 TJ, but its always amusing
to hear
: about someone elses stuff (beats the hell out of telling the gang I busted
my rig
: _again_). So, do tell us more about that Montanna Mud. LOL!
:
: Having fun is what its all about. =)
: -jenn
:
:
: PS: I have the "MudBall".... http://jbjeep.terahex.com
:
:
:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:52:26 GMT, "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Billy Ray.
: >>I rather suspected this would be the case.
: >>I know it isn't what many consider a serious off roader but I plan to
have
: >>some fun with it.
: >>
: >>I don't think I am going to do any extreme rock climbing with it, or
putting
: >>a huge lift, or cutting the fenders off or anything like that.
: >>It only has 100 miles on it and still needs to be broken in.
: >>
: >>I considered other options, but this is the best for my lifestyle. I'm
no
: >>soccer mom, but I do need to haul my grandson now and then, so I
sacrificed
: >>my Cobra for this.
: >>It had better be fun or else.
: >>
: >>I'm used to getting ribbed and usually can handle it. When I get so I
can't
: >>I say so.

 

So you have winches on both front and back then? I mean... when you go face
first into the swamp how do you pull yourself out?

Do you carry 2 x 100+ pound winches around town while commuting back and
forth to work?

--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WbidnT0sMc1EeLneRVn-qw@comcast.com...
>I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
> flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
> mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get
> stuck
> on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
> 100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud
> from
> your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
> winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
> the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
> EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
>> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>> > Kate-
>> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
>> > accomodate the lift.
>> >
>> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
> that
>> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
>> > without removing it from the vehicle.
>> >
>> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
> and
>> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very
>> > good
>> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They
>> > are
>> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
>> >
>> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is
>> > probably
>> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
> rear
>> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
>> > couldn't.
>> >
>> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
> MT/R's,
>> >> you'll do OK.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
>> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
> though.
>> >> >
>> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
>> >> > drop
>> > top
>> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
>> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
>> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
> bit
>> >> but
>> >> > I will get used to it.
>> >> >
>> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
>> >> > for
>> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
>> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
>> > doing
>> >> > some exploring.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
> their
>> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
>> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh!
>> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
>> > Irish
>> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
>> >> republican.
>> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
> and
>> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Kate
>> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

So you have winches on both front and back then? I mean... when you go face
first into the swamp how do you pull yourself out?

Do you carry 2 x 100+ pound winches around town while commuting back and
forth to work?

--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WbidnT0sMc1EeLneRVn-qw@comcast.com...
>I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
> flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
> mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get
> stuck
> on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
> 100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud
> from
> your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
> winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
> the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
> EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
>> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>> > Kate-
>> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
>> > accomodate the lift.
>> >
>> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
> that
>> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
>> > without removing it from the vehicle.
>> >
>> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
> and
>> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very
>> > good
>> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They
>> > are
>> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
>> >
>> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is
>> > probably
>> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
> rear
>> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
>> > couldn't.
>> >
>> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
> MT/R's,
>> >> you'll do OK.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
>> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
> though.
>> >> >
>> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
>> >> > drop
>> > top
>> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
>> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
>> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
> bit
>> >> but
>> >> > I will get used to it.
>> >> >
>> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
>> >> > for
>> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
>> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
>> > doing
>> >> > some exploring.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
> their
>> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
>> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh!
>> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
>> > Irish
>> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
>> >> republican.
>> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
> and
>> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Kate
>> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

So you have winches on both front and back then? I mean... when you go face
first into the swamp how do you pull yourself out?

Do you carry 2 x 100+ pound winches around town while commuting back and
forth to work?

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"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
> flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
> mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get
> stuck
> on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
> 100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud
> from
> your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
> winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
> the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
> EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
>> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
>> --
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>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>> > Kate-
>> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
>> > accomodate the lift.
>> >
>> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
> that
>> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
>> > without removing it from the vehicle.
>> >
>> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
> and
>> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very
>> > good
>> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They
>> > are
>> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
>> >
>> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is
>> > probably
>> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
> rear
>> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
>> > couldn't.
>> >
>> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
> MT/R's,
>> >> you'll do OK.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
>> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
> though.
>> >> >
>> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
>> >> > drop
>> > top
>> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
>> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
>> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
> bit
>> >> but
>> >> > I will get used to it.
>> >> >
>> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
>> >> > for
>> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
>> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
>> > doing
>> >> > some exploring.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
> their
>> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
>> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh!
>> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
>> > Irish
>> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
>> >> republican.
>> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
> and
>> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Kate
>> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>