Mike Romain

Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
Charter.

Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.

Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
come back when it is over. ;-)

ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
enough complaints are laid.

For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
process including the votes can be viewed here:

ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******

Here is the Charter text quoted:

RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******

The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.

At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
articles daily.

It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.

CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******

The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
parts by non-commercial vendors.

Some things that could be discussed....

-Jeep/****** history
-repairs and modifications
-parts exchange
-technical information
-4x4 driving experiences
-vehicle restoration
-new vehicle evaluations

Some things that shouldn't be discussed....

-4 wheel drive vehicles made by
other manufacturers
-commercial posts

The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
but not vise versa.

END CHARTER.

End quote.

Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
88 Cherokee 235 AT's

twaldron

I agree, lose the politics. However, don't just wait for the elections
to be over for it to subside. People are still fighting the Civil War
here in this country.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

I agree, lose the politics. However, don't just wait for the elections
to be over for it to subside. People are still fighting the Civil War
here in this country.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

I agree, lose the politics. However, don't just wait for the elections
to be over for it to subside. People are still fighting the Civil War
here in this country.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

I agree, lose the politics. However, don't just wait for the elections
to be over for it to subside. People are still fighting the Civil War
here in this country.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Kevin S

November 2nd.... see you on the 3rd!

Actually I have to agree with you. All the newsgroups are getting filled up
with this stuff and it's getting pretty annoying. I don't come to these
newsgroups for politics.

Here's a way to get back at us Mike..... next time you guys are electing a
Queen or whatever you have up there.... start filling up the newsgroups with
all sorts of partisan information.

;-)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4129F606.40252356@sympatico.ca...
> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
>
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

Kevin S

November 2nd.... see you on the 3rd!

Actually I have to agree with you. All the newsgroups are getting filled up
with this stuff and it's getting pretty annoying. I don't come to these
newsgroups for politics.

Here's a way to get back at us Mike..... next time you guys are electing a
Queen or whatever you have up there.... start filling up the newsgroups with
all sorts of partisan information.

;-)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4129F606.40252356@sympatico.ca...
> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
>
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

Kevin S

November 2nd.... see you on the 3rd!

Actually I have to agree with you. All the newsgroups are getting filled up
with this stuff and it's getting pretty annoying. I don't come to these
newsgroups for politics.

Here's a way to get back at us Mike..... next time you guys are electing a
Queen or whatever you have up there.... start filling up the newsgroups with
all sorts of partisan information.

;-)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4129F606.40252356@sympatico.ca...
> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
>
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

Kevin S

November 2nd.... see you on the 3rd!

Actually I have to agree with you. All the newsgroups are getting filled up
with this stuff and it's getting pretty annoying. I don't come to these
newsgroups for politics.

Here's a way to get back at us Mike..... next time you guys are electing a
Queen or whatever you have up there.... start filling up the newsgroups with
all sorts of partisan information.

;-)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4129F606.40252356@sympatico.ca...
> Folks, I know every little part of the world has it's politics and
> elections, but this is a world wide Jeep group and your private bitches
> about 'your' local crooks aren't welcomed here according to the group's
> Charter.
>
> Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.
>
> Or just tell us when this damn election is so us Jeepers can go away and
> come back when it is over. ;-)
>
> ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> enough complaints are laid.
>
> For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> process including the votes can be viewed here:
>
>
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
>
> Here is the Charter text quoted:
>
> RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
>
> At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> articles daily.
>
> It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
>
> CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>
> The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> parts by non-commercial vendors.
>
> Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> but not vise versa.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> End quote.
>
> Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

William Oliveri

Right,

If we combine Lee's comment with Mike's then the correct picture is
drawn:

Mike wrote:
Face it folks, they "ALL" are crooks, get over it.

Lee wrote:
[snip stuff that has -----all to do with Jeeps]

My little town closes down Main Street and runs a street fair on the third
Thursday of each summer month. This last time I was button holed by 4
religious proselytizers and by 4 political proselytizers. It was like
being swarmed by rats, big, smiling rats with leaflets.

Ya know, I loathed being subjected to it there and I don't need it here,
either.