Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
04-28-2005, 10:46 PM
#51
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
sorry guys that what we call them
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
04-28-2005, 10:46 PM
#52
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
sorry guys that what we call them
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
04-28-2005, 10:46 PM
#53
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
sorry guys that what we call them
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> He works for Daimler, which doesn't surprise me.
> There are a bunch of weird fans out there, though:
> http://www.----------.com/WJcoolFan.jpg Just no reason for them to have
> a clutch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > I was getting ready to ask the same thing... this guy can't be real...
> >
> > Eric
04-28-2005, 10:52 PM
#54
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
04-28-2005, 10:52 PM
#55
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
04-28-2005, 10:52 PM
#56
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
04-28-2005, 10:52 PM
#57
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a motor
from overheat
see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac in a
can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats just me
Snow wrote:
> > take the belt off and start and run the vehicle if it's still there then
> > there is a good chance it's the fan clutch
>
> And while its off, you can end up over heating the engine as you will have
> no coolant flow, but I'm sure someone will install a engine for you. Don'y
> understand how you figure it could be a fan clutch...
>
> > ]if it's gone put it bac on and start from scratch
>
> Now that sounds just like a stealership answer.
>
> Try cleaning the pullies if you have or that hasn't worked try spraying the
> belt (if you have it, try a spray silicone release {liquid silicone spray})
> try a very quick (and I meen quick) blast of belt dressing.
>
> Snow...
>
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> Crayola did pass the time by typing:
> >> > I have a 97 2.5L TJ and a while back the I started
> >> > to hear a loud squealing noise come from the engine.
> >> > It starts about 2 or 3 miles into any driving trip
> >> > and only occurs when I am deacelerating, or idling.
> >> >
> >> > Since I have about 130k on the jeep I immediatly thought
> >> > it must be the belt.. so I replaced the serpentine
> >> > belt and tensioned it properly.. it still squealed..
> >> > So I played with the tension for a few weeks incase I was
> >> > on crack but I couldnt get it to stop.. So I figured
> >> > it might be a cheap belt, and replaced the belt again
> >> > with a top of the line belt from napa. It is STILL
> >> > squealing despite being tensioned properly.
> >> >
> >> > All the acessories seem to be working fine, and turning
> >> > them on doesnt change the pitch or reduce the sound (AC).
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas what I should do next? Its driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Watch your fingers but with the engine running, lightly
> >> touch the sides of the belt with a bar of soap and notice
> >> if it goes away. If it does then the odds are your harmonic
> >> balancer has started to break down and walk off it's rubber
> >> isolator. Read here.
> >> http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW
> >
04-29-2005, 03:38 PM
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4271A17F.F85D5BC5@cac.net...
> lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
> on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
> figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a
> motor
> from overheat
> see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac
> in a
> can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats
> just me
Your assuming its a 70 degree day , OP may live in Arizona and be doing this
on a hotter day.
Oh and with the belt off, it will heat up faster as the water pump won't be
turning.
Second, every stealership I have ever been to all have and use belt
dressing to get rid of squeaks. The silicone spray is much better and wont
leave sticky residue (safe for aircraft use to).
Snow...
04-29-2005, 03:38 PM
#59
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4271A17F.F85D5BC5@cac.net...
> lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
> on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
> figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a
> motor
> from overheat
> see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac
> in a
> can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats
> just me
Your assuming its a 70 degree day , OP may live in Arizona and be doing this
on a hotter day.
Oh and with the belt off, it will heat up faster as the water pump won't be
turning.
Second, every stealership I have ever been to all have and use belt
dressing to get rid of squeaks. The silicone spray is much better and wont
leave sticky residue (safe for aircraft use to).
Snow...
04-29-2005, 03:38 PM
#60
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Re: Help stop the squealing! Fan belt.. Arrghh!
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4271A17F.F85D5BC5@cac.net...
> lets see how long it takes for a engine to hit op. temp
> on a 70 degree day 10 minutes maybe at a idle, more than enough time to
> figure out if a pulley is bad or a fan clutch long before it needs a
> motor
> from overheat
> see, we will run a engine with the belt off and not just spray a mechinac
> in a
> can fix like you might so we can correctly fix the issue but hey thats
> just me
Your assuming its a 70 degree day , OP may live in Arizona and be doing this
on a hotter day.
Oh and with the belt off, it will heat up faster as the water pump won't be
turning.
Second, every stealership I have ever been to all have and use belt
dressing to get rid of squeaks. The silicone spray is much better and wont
leave sticky residue (safe for aircraft use to).
Snow...