Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
11-17-2003, 09:42 PM
#31
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
the problem its probably a good idea.
KH
"MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
happened
> my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> computer lost in program.
> I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
reving
> it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
downloaded
> the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
>
> Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
>
> Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
have
> this happen.
>
> So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
I
> ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> >
> > Damn
> >
> > TWR
> >
> > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
find
> it
> > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
shut
> off
> > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > Ron K
> > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
I
> > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
Cap
> > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > >
> > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > computer module.
> > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > >
> > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > manual I have.
> > > >
> > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > >
> > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
>
>
the problem its probably a good idea.
KH
"MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
happened
> my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> computer lost in program.
> I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
reving
> it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
downloaded
> the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
>
> Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
>
> Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
have
> this happen.
>
> So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
I
> ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> >
> > Damn
> >
> > TWR
> >
> > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
find
> it
> > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
shut
> off
> > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > Ron K
> > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
I
> > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
Cap
> > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > >
> > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > computer module.
> > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > >
> > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > manual I have.
> > > >
> > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > >
> > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
>
>
11-18-2003, 03:13 PM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Ya right....
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
11-18-2003, 03:13 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Ya right....
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
11-18-2003, 03:13 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Ya right....
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
firewall cutting out the spark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Its always the CPS when there is no spark. Just replace it. Even it it isnt
> the problem its probably a good idea.
> KH
>
> "MikeG" <boo@hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vril0ot95rt1e4@corp.supernews.com...
> > I remember some time ago, I had a similar problem on a 97 XJ. What
> happened
> > my kid left the interior light on and it drained the batter. The onboard
> > computer lost in program.
> > I had to start it like a old carburator vehicle, pumping the gas, and
> reving
> > it up to keep it running for about 3 or 4 minutes untill the ROM
> downloaded
> > the program back to the computer - which controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > Jeep told me this. I esentially re-booted my car.
> >
> > Odd thing. I've completely drainded my battery in the past, and didn't
> have
> > this happen.
> >
> > So try charing the battery way up, hop in, pump the gas a few times, hold
> > the pedal down turn it over, if it sputters and tries, this may be the
> > problem. Keep at it, mine stalled many times trying to keep it running.
> I
> > ended up having to vary the pedal the entire time.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83403696.0310271742.23ef9ba8@posting.google.c om...
> > > No luck. Sent it to a the shop. No luck there either. They say that
> > > there is no power getting to this switch or to the onboard computer.
> > > They are probing for loose wires etc.
> > >
> > > Damn
> > >
> > > TWR
> > >
> > > "Ron K" <rrrr@rnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:<wc9nb.1754$Vl4.545240113@twister2.starband.n et>...
> > > > He is referring to the top dead sensor switch on the bell housing,
> find
> > it
> > > > unplug it then plug it back in it should start one time. When it is
> shut
> > off
> > > > it will not start again until its replaced.
> > > > Ron K
> > > > "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:83403696.0310262201.198eeb62@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. 4.0 with a standard transmission. I
> > > > > parked her a couple of nights ago and she wouldn't start up again. I
> > > > > checked for spark and got none. (Hopefully I'm doing that properly)
> I
> > > > > checked for and found no loose wires. I looked at the Distributor
> Cap
> > > > > and rotor. Both appear to be fine. They were both changed two weeks
> > > > > ago along with the new plugs and wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > My first instinct was the electronic control module. According to
> > > > > Jeep, this model does not have a module. Instead, it uses an onboard
> > > > > computer module.
> > > > > At almost $500, I'm not crazy about swapping that out unless I know
> > > > > its really at fault. For kicks, I put on a new coil. No change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke to a mechanic who suggested a Transmission Sensor ( I think
> > > > > thats what he said...)Couldn't find reference to it in the Haynes
> > > > > manual I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to have it pulled into the shop. Before I do, I
> > > > > thought I'd check to see if any of you folks had any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up till now (6.5 yearrs 185K miles) she has run flawlessly. I
> > > > > mentioned earlier that I had just changed the plugs, rotor, cap and
> > > > > wires. She ran well for a week or so. Then *poof*
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea's would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> >
> >
11-18-2003, 06:07 PM
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
11-18-2003, 06:07 PM
#36
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
11-18-2003, 06:07 PM
#37
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
> Ya right....
>
> I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
>
> Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> firewall cutting out the spark.
Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
says
Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
Step 2) Clean the connectors
Step 3) ...
Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
11-18-2003, 06:47 PM
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
LOL why did I know Mike was gonna say the ground strap.
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
11-18-2003, 06:47 PM
#39
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
LOL why did I know Mike was gonna say the ground strap.
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
11-18-2003, 06:47 PM
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Re: Help Please Jeep Cherokee won't start No Spark
LOL why did I know Mike was gonna say the ground strap.
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
KH
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fDxub.1862$3z5.1857@okepread01...
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > Ya right....
> >
> > I changed my CPS and the ***** stalled again 10 feet later.
> >
> > Mine was an almost dead ground strap from the engine head to the
> > firewall cutting out the spark.
>
> Yep. I rilly should put a diagnosics page up that
> says
>
> Step 1) Run a jumper cable between the engine and a good frame ground
> Step 2) Clean the connectors
> Step 3) ...
>
> Those dang braided ground strap causes all sorts of problems.
>
>
