From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
Clearcoat"

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422CC2C5.EF4E2F68@***.net...
but there is no separate clear coat
> on any factory paint.

 

From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
Clearcoat"

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422CC2C5.EF4E2F68@***.net...
but there is no separate clear coat
> on any factory paint.

 

From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
Clearcoat"

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422CC2C5.EF4E2F68@***.net...
but there is no separate clear coat
> on any factory paint.

 

Yup, as were my Thunderbirds. I was just repeating what the factory
Rep told me, (when trying to get Ford to eat some of my UV damage) that
these colors were like a candy paint, and the clear comes to the
surface. I realize the typical shop will shot it again, in covering up
their f**k ups.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
> Clearcoat"

 

Yup, as were my Thunderbirds. I was just repeating what the factory
Rep told me, (when trying to get Ford to eat some of my UV damage) that
these colors were like a candy paint, and the clear comes to the
surface. I realize the typical shop will shot it again, in covering up
their f**k ups.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
> Clearcoat"

 

Yup, as were my Thunderbirds. I was just repeating what the factory
Rep told me, (when trying to get Ford to eat some of my UV damage) that
these colors were like a candy paint, and the clear comes to the
surface. I realize the typical shop will shot it again, in covering up
their f**k ups.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> From my '02 Superduty factory window sticker..."Exterior: Dark Shadow Gray
> Clearcoat"

 

The paint peels because the bodies have a "E Coat" to keep them from rusting
without a primer. Cost accounting engineers desided to help defrey the cost
of the e coat by leaving off the primer. The e coat is hard and non porous
so the paint won't stick without primer. I got this information from a paint
engineer for PPG while repairing his PC. As far as a recourse from the car
makers, I saw a news program a long while back and basically the auto makers
were claiming the cars were too old or too many miles and denying claims. As
for colors, it seems to me that white chevy trucks are the worst.

JoBo

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96126B1E0552Cxs11eyahoocom@68.1.17.6...
>
> I've searched this group on Google but can't find any relevant posts so
> please help a newbie.
>
> I have a 1993 Grand Cherokee and several years back I began to see
> small blisters in the paint which eventually became bare spots. Now
> I've got large areas on the hood, roof, upper doors, etc. that are
> completely bare and more is beginning to come off.
>
> I've already got estimates on repainting but here's the question:
>
> Does Jeep have any hidden warranties on this? I know the problem isn't
> unknown, will they do anything about it?
>
> I did write them but they refused due to age and mileage but... 10
> years isn't asking much of a paint job nor is 80,000 miles*.
>
> Any ideas? I can't believe this isn't a factory defect...
>
>
>
>
> *For comparison, my 1992 Mazda Miata has 137,000 miles and the paint
> (same white as the Jeep) is original and almost perfect.

 

The paint peels because the bodies have a "E Coat" to keep them from rusting
without a primer. Cost accounting engineers desided to help defrey the cost
of the e coat by leaving off the primer. The e coat is hard and non porous
so the paint won't stick without primer. I got this information from a paint
engineer for PPG while repairing his PC. As far as a recourse from the car
makers, I saw a news program a long while back and basically the auto makers
were claiming the cars were too old or too many miles and denying claims. As
for colors, it seems to me that white chevy trucks are the worst.

JoBo

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96126B1E0552Cxs11eyahoocom@68.1.17.6...
>
> I've searched this group on Google but can't find any relevant posts so
> please help a newbie.
>
> I have a 1993 Grand Cherokee and several years back I began to see
> small blisters in the paint which eventually became bare spots. Now
> I've got large areas on the hood, roof, upper doors, etc. that are
> completely bare and more is beginning to come off.
>
> I've already got estimates on repainting but here's the question:
>
> Does Jeep have any hidden warranties on this? I know the problem isn't
> unknown, will they do anything about it?
>
> I did write them but they refused due to age and mileage but... 10
> years isn't asking much of a paint job nor is 80,000 miles*.
>
> Any ideas? I can't believe this isn't a factory defect...
>
>
>
>
> *For comparison, my 1992 Mazda Miata has 137,000 miles and the paint
> (same white as the Jeep) is original and almost perfect.

 

The paint peels because the bodies have a "E Coat" to keep them from rusting
without a primer. Cost accounting engineers desided to help defrey the cost
of the e coat by leaving off the primer. The e coat is hard and non porous
so the paint won't stick without primer. I got this information from a paint
engineer for PPG while repairing his PC. As far as a recourse from the car
makers, I saw a news program a long while back and basically the auto makers
were claiming the cars were too old or too many miles and denying claims. As
for colors, it seems to me that white chevy trucks are the worst.

JoBo

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96126B1E0552Cxs11eyahoocom@68.1.17.6...
>
> I've searched this group on Google but can't find any relevant posts so
> please help a newbie.
>
> I have a 1993 Grand Cherokee and several years back I began to see
> small blisters in the paint which eventually became bare spots. Now
> I've got large areas on the hood, roof, upper doors, etc. that are
> completely bare and more is beginning to come off.
>
> I've already got estimates on repainting but here's the question:
>
> Does Jeep have any hidden warranties on this? I know the problem isn't
> unknown, will they do anything about it?
>
> I did write them but they refused due to age and mileage but... 10
> years isn't asking much of a paint job nor is 80,000 miles*.
>
> Any ideas? I can't believe this isn't a factory defect...
>
>
>
>
> *For comparison, my 1992 Mazda Miata has 137,000 miles and the paint
> (same white as the Jeep) is original and almost perfect.

 

Wow. My `89 Cherokee's blue paint sunburned and peeled too. You'd think
tht they'd have worked out the problems by the `90s.

Come to think of it, my `96 Cherokee's black paint is showing white primer
on the driver's door and on the roof near the aft end of the roof rack
rails.


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Mike Romain wrote:

>
> Is it blue?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> XS11E wrote:
>>
>> I've searched this group on Google but can't find any relevant posts so
>> please help a newbie.
>>
>> I have a 1993 Grand Cherokee and several years back I began to see
>> small blisters in the paint which eventually became bare spots. Now
>> I've got large areas on the hood, roof, upper doors, etc. that are
>> completely bare and more is beginning to come off.
>>
>> I've already got estimates on repainting but here's the question:
>>
>> Does Jeep have any hidden warranties on this? I know the problem isn't
>> unknown, will they do anything about it?
>>
>> I did write them but they refused due to age and mileage but... 10
>> years isn't asking much of a paint job nor is 80,000 miles*.
>>
>> Any ideas? I can't believe this isn't a factory defect...
>>
>> *For comparison, my 1992 Mazda Miata has 137,000 miles and the paint
>> (same white as the Jeep) is original and almost perfect.
>

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