Help with new 35" tires
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Guys,
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
#12
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Guys,
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
#13
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Guys,
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
You put in words my worst thoughts.
In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
Thanks again,
Miguel Cunha
mailto:mc4@netc.pt
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Hi Miguel,
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Hi Miguel,
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
Hi Miguel,
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
Donors at: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
You'll have to improvise for your springy setup, but nothing any welder
by trade couldn't handle. Stay away for the Grand Cherokees and their
aluminum housings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Miguel Cunha wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You put in words my worst thoughts.
> In fact I already broke an axle with this D35 and 33" tires, but this
> happened when I had my (broke) ARB locked. Right now I use only my stock
> limited slip dif and thought that maybe it couldn't break so easily ...
> Here in Portugal, where I live, it's very dificult to get a used Dana 44.
> One imported from USA is also very expensive so, what's my best course ?
> Is there any old Cheroke or Grand Cheroke or other brand 4x4 that used the
> Dana 44 ( here in Europe ) ? From which years ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> mailto:mc4@netc.pt
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
In article <volpri7tcku4dd@corp.supernews.com>,
Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
In article <volpri7tcku4dd@corp.supernews.com>,
Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
In article <volpri7tcku4dd@corp.supernews.com>,
Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Gerald G. McGeorge <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
>DO NOT, put 35" tires on a Dana 35, unless you want to spend a lot of time
>walking back out. The Dana 35 is unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put
>under a Jeep, it's a testament to some bean counter at AMC, who started the
>plague in the first place, and the tradition of lunacy has been carried on
>at Daimler Chrysler. The best thing you can do with a Dana 35 is to either
>donate it to a scrap metal company so they can melt it down and make
>something useful out of it, or toss it into a pond for fish habitat.
>
>Let us count the miseries of this axle 1) pinion bearings too small, which
>over heat and take out the pinion seal, 2) r& p undersized, 3) axle shafts
>undersized, 4) c-clip retention, 5) needle bearings at the axle ends that
>get overstressed under minor loads, 6) weak axle tubes, 7) low fluid
>capacity...the list goes on. In short, the thing is a CURSE!
>
>Also, don;t waste money on a "Super 35" kit, either, it just delays the
>misery.
190850 miles and still going strong on my D35. However I totally agree with
you. The PO mainly used it for commuting on the highway. :)
BTW, I changed the gear oil and replaced the gaskets.
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Re: Help with new 35" tires
It depends what you want to do... the Dana 35 will be fine with
35-inch tires if you stay in 2wd on paved roads. The guys who are
cautioning you against that combo are thinking that you are going to
go off-roading. On paved roads you will be fine. And actually the
2.5L engine will work in your favor somewhat by keeping you from
getting in trouble... it doesn't have the power of a bigger engine to
tear up your axles so easily.
"MC4" <mc4@netc.pt> wrote in message news:<1066054820.563692@news.iol.pt>...
> Hi,
> I want to get bigger tires to my TJ and I'm thinking on the 35" BFG M/T. The
> problem is that I have a very weak setup:
>
> 2.5L
> R.E. 3" lift
> Rancho 9000 shocks
> Rear Dana 35-C clip
> Front Dana 30
> 4.56 gears
>
> Anyone with this 2.5L motor and a D35 rear dif have any experience ( good
> or bad ) with 35" tires ?
>
> Must I use a body lift to clear those tires?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> ( in Portugal )
35-inch tires if you stay in 2wd on paved roads. The guys who are
cautioning you against that combo are thinking that you are going to
go off-roading. On paved roads you will be fine. And actually the
2.5L engine will work in your favor somewhat by keeping you from
getting in trouble... it doesn't have the power of a bigger engine to
tear up your axles so easily.
"MC4" <mc4@netc.pt> wrote in message news:<1066054820.563692@news.iol.pt>...
> Hi,
> I want to get bigger tires to my TJ and I'm thinking on the 35" BFG M/T. The
> problem is that I have a very weak setup:
>
> 2.5L
> R.E. 3" lift
> Rancho 9000 shocks
> Rear Dana 35-C clip
> Front Dana 30
> 4.56 gears
>
> Anyone with this 2.5L motor and a D35 rear dif have any experience ( good
> or bad ) with 35" tires ?
>
> Must I use a body lift to clear those tires?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Miguel Cunha
> ( in Portugal )