"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
putting
> my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the tires
off
> (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and when I
> released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen
and
> that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
>
> What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on? Shouldn't
> something be holding it in place???
>

The wheel and the lug nuts hold it on.

 

Yes, the axle moves in and out (making a nice "clunk" at either end of the
move).

Eric
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:tJoPc.104160$fv.39712@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm not sure what your calling a "popping" noise but the shoes can make a
> noise where they contact the backing plate. The cure for that is to clean
and
> lube slightly the backing plate where the shoes hit. The drum that pulled
off
> without any resistance needs the shoes tightened, there should be some
drag. As
> others have stated, there could/should be litttle star like spring clips
over
> one or two of the lug bolts holding the drums on. But that's no big deal.
Now
> about play, what are you talking about? I thought you were talking about
in and
> out end play. Then you mention the driveshaft. By looking at your
pictures, the
> whole area looks like it could use a good rust removal, cleaning and
> lubricating in the right places.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
putting
> > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the tires
off
> > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and when
I
> > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen
and
> > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> >
> > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
Shouldn't
> > something be holding it in place???
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, the axle moves in and out (making a nice "clunk" at either end of the
move).

Eric
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:tJoPc.104160$fv.39712@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm not sure what your calling a "popping" noise but the shoes can make a
> noise where they contact the backing plate. The cure for that is to clean
and
> lube slightly the backing plate where the shoes hit. The drum that pulled
off
> without any resistance needs the shoes tightened, there should be some
drag. As
> others have stated, there could/should be litttle star like spring clips
over
> one or two of the lug bolts holding the drums on. But that's no big deal.
Now
> about play, what are you talking about? I thought you were talking about
in and
> out end play. Then you mention the driveshaft. By looking at your
pictures, the
> whole area looks like it could use a good rust removal, cleaning and
> lubricating in the right places.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
putting
> > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the tires
off
> > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and when
I
> > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen
and
> > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> >
> > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
Shouldn't
> > something be holding it in place???
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, the axle moves in and out (making a nice "clunk" at either end of the
move).

Eric
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:tJoPc.104160$fv.39712@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm not sure what your calling a "popping" noise but the shoes can make a
> noise where they contact the backing plate. The cure for that is to clean
and
> lube slightly the backing plate where the shoes hit. The drum that pulled
off
> without any resistance needs the shoes tightened, there should be some
drag. As
> others have stated, there could/should be litttle star like spring clips
over
> one or two of the lug bolts holding the drums on. But that's no big deal.
Now
> about play, what are you talking about? I thought you were talking about
in and
> out end play. Then you mention the driveshaft. By looking at your
pictures, the
> whole area looks like it could use a good rust removal, cleaning and
> lubricating in the right places.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
putting
> > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the tires
off
> > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and when
I
> > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen
and
> > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> >
> > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
Shouldn't
> > something be holding it in place???
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, the axle moves in and out (making a nice "clunk" at either end of the
move).

Eric
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:tJoPc.104160$fv.39712@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm not sure what your calling a "popping" noise but the shoes can make a
> noise where they contact the backing plate. The cure for that is to clean
and
> lube slightly the backing plate where the shoes hit. The drum that pulled
off
> without any resistance needs the shoes tightened, there should be some
drag. As
> others have stated, there could/should be litttle star like spring clips
over
> one or two of the lug bolts holding the drums on. But that's no big deal.
Now
> about play, what are you talking about? I thought you were talking about
in and
> out end play. Then you mention the driveshaft. By looking at your
pictures, the
> whole area looks like it could use a good rust removal, cleaning and
> lubricating in the right places.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
putting
> > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the tires
off
> > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and when
I
> > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen
and
> > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> >
> > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
Shouldn't
> > something be holding it in place???
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, I believe that is normal.

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ikhPc.11854$_25.3664@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> If I grab the ends of the axles I can pull them in and out a bit (Chrysler
> 8.25 w/trac-loc). That isn't normal, is it? Keep in mind I have this
> popping sound that comes from the rear when I'm stopping that I'm trying
to
> track down.
>
> Eric
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:wsmdndhRppWjA5DcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > The wheel holds it into place. Put the wheel back on when you replace
the
> > drum. :-)
> >
> > The rear axle on the XJ is supposed to have a little in-out play in it
if
> > memory serves.
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
> > putting
> > > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the
tires
> > off
> > > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and
when
> I
> > > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to
happen
> > and
> > > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> > >
> > > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
> Shouldn't
> > > something be holding it in place???
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, I believe that is normal.

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ikhPc.11854$_25.3664@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> If I grab the ends of the axles I can pull them in and out a bit (Chrysler
> 8.25 w/trac-loc). That isn't normal, is it? Keep in mind I have this
> popping sound that comes from the rear when I'm stopping that I'm trying
to
> track down.
>
> Eric
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:wsmdndhRppWjA5DcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > The wheel holds it into place. Put the wheel back on when you replace
the
> > drum. :-)
> >
> > The rear axle on the XJ is supposed to have a little in-out play in it
if
> > memory serves.
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
> > putting
> > > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the
tires
> > off
> > > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and
when
> I
> > > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to
happen
> > and
> > > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> > >
> > > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
> Shouldn't
> > > something be holding it in place???
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, I believe that is normal.

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ikhPc.11854$_25.3664@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> If I grab the ends of the axles I can pull them in and out a bit (Chrysler
> 8.25 w/trac-loc). That isn't normal, is it? Keep in mind I have this
> popping sound that comes from the rear when I'm stopping that I'm trying
to
> track down.
>
> Eric
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:wsmdndhRppWjA5DcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > The wheel holds it into place. Put the wheel back on when you replace
the
> > drum. :-)
> >
> > The rear axle on the XJ is supposed to have a little in-out play in it
if
> > memory serves.
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
> > putting
> > > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the
tires
> > off
> > > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and
when
> I
> > > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to
happen
> > and
> > > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> > >
> > > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
> Shouldn't
> > > something be holding it in place???
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Yes, I believe that is normal.

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ikhPc.11854$_25.3664@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> If I grab the ends of the axles I can pull them in and out a bit (Chrysler
> 8.25 w/trac-loc). That isn't normal, is it? Keep in mind I have this
> popping sound that comes from the rear when I'm stopping that I'm trying
to
> track down.
>
> Eric
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:wsmdndhRppWjA5DcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > The wheel holds it into place. Put the wheel back on when you replace
the
> > drum. :-)
> >
> > The rear axle on the XJ is supposed to have a little in-out play in it
if
> > memory serves.
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:s1hPc.11852$_25.1976@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Was investigating that popping noise on my wife's XJ. Sure enough,
> > putting
> > > my hands at 12 and 6 and tugging produced a "clunk". I popped the
tires
> > off
> > > (NOT easy -- those were the TIGHTEST lugs I have ever loosened) and
when
> I
> > > released the e-brake, the drum just came right off. NO effort. I no
> > > NOTHING about brakes, but I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to
happen
> > and
> > > that is the source of the popping sound when she stops.
> > >
> > > What the heck do I do now???? Do I just put the drum back on?
> Shouldn't
> > > something be holding it in place???
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Perfectly normal.
if the star adjuster isn't taking up the slack, the shoes and set and
release repeatedly when stopping and make a knocking noise...
Take the star adjuster out, noting how it's installed.
Take it apart, clean the threads and lubricate the threads with
anti-seize, reassemble and reinstall......adjust it out untill the drum is
just snug going on over the shoes, and put the wheel back on.

Do the same on the other side, just to be sure, and you'll be fine.

Cheers,
Paul

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:50:37 +0000, Eric wrote:

> Here are some pictures of the shoes. No way can this be normal. Look at
> the striping on one and the wear at the corners on the other. These
> things were put on only a few months ago. Also, the driver's side drum,
> as I said, just "fell" off. No effort. It moves around the axle end too.
> The passenger side had resistance from the shoes touching, but that was
> it (still came right off). Didn't move around nearly as much as the
> driver's side. What do you guys think???
>
> http://www.baileyscorner.com/images/passshoes2.jpg
> http://www.baileyscorner.com/images/passshoes.jpg
>
> Eric