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Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo,moreinside
I can remember a few hemi's up around Grand Junction, Moab, etc. that displayed the legendary performance. All were in dealer hands and never did see one on the streets. Most of the nutcases tended to run the ram 426 on the street--easier to keep in one piece. Of course one of my ex-cow orkers had a Keith Black 426 ram with B&M hydro and used it to commute between Moab and Green River to work....you could watch the gas guage creep downwards on the highway. L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed: > Well they made many changes, a big one in '66 that a friend has in > his '55 Chevy Pickup: http://members.aol.com/FranAngRenteria/frank55.jpg > Along with a new Ram to compare: > http://members.aol.com/FranAngRenteria/frankRam.jpg But the basic > hemispherical design really hasn't changed, other than the parts won't > interchange, but without me telling you this is the new one you couldn't > tell: http://www.----------.com/hemi_cutaway.jpg Well, maybe the extra > injectors. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Lon wrote: > >> The current incarnation has nothing much more than the name in common >> with the ancestral block. |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo, more inside
Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is
hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" name as pure marketing. -John "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:vjeUc.27123$TI1.17727@attbi_s52... > > What the modern "hemi" has in common with the older hemispherical > chamber'd mopars is the name...a very valuable name, becoming a > brand name all of its own. And yes, I know the difference between > a wedge head, a ram head, a hemi head, etc. etc. etc. 'twas a > DC person who made the statement that the new hemi [which has far > more actual horsepower per cube] pays homage to the older generation > but is not a descendent. > > Jerry Bransford proclaimed: > > > So you didn't know about the hemispherical combustion chamber that both > > engines have? Today's Hemi is just a more modern version of the Hemi of the > > 60's that I grew to love... and it is, regardless of what you think, a > > "Hemi" engine. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:bdcUc.264901$a24.81903@attbi_s03... > > > >> The current incarnation has nothing much more than the name in common > >> with the ancestral block. > >> > >>L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed: > >> > >> > >>> For those that think the Hemi is a new idea: > >>>http://www.thehemi.com/engines.php > >>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > >>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >>> > >>>Lon wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> ... Hemi Grand SRT. 425 hp and 4wd. [autoweek] > > > > > > |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo, more inside
Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is
hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" name as pure marketing. -John "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:vjeUc.27123$TI1.17727@attbi_s52... > > What the modern "hemi" has in common with the older hemispherical > chamber'd mopars is the name...a very valuable name, becoming a > brand name all of its own. And yes, I know the difference between > a wedge head, a ram head, a hemi head, etc. etc. etc. 'twas a > DC person who made the statement that the new hemi [which has far > more actual horsepower per cube] pays homage to the older generation > but is not a descendent. > > Jerry Bransford proclaimed: > > > So you didn't know about the hemispherical combustion chamber that both > > engines have? Today's Hemi is just a more modern version of the Hemi of the > > 60's that I grew to love... and it is, regardless of what you think, a > > "Hemi" engine. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:bdcUc.264901$a24.81903@attbi_s03... > > > >> The current incarnation has nothing much more than the name in common > >> with the ancestral block. > >> > >>L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed: > >> > >> > >>> For those that think the Hemi is a new idea: > >>>http://www.thehemi.com/engines.php > >>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > >>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >>> > >>>Lon wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> ... Hemi Grand SRT. 425 hp and 4wd. [autoweek] > > > > > > |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo, more inside
Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is
hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" name as pure marketing. -John "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:vjeUc.27123$TI1.17727@attbi_s52... > > What the modern "hemi" has in common with the older hemispherical > chamber'd mopars is the name...a very valuable name, becoming a > brand name all of its own. And yes, I know the difference between > a wedge head, a ram head, a hemi head, etc. etc. etc. 'twas a > DC person who made the statement that the new hemi [which has far > more actual horsepower per cube] pays homage to the older generation > but is not a descendent. > > Jerry Bransford proclaimed: > > > So you didn't know about the hemispherical combustion chamber that both > > engines have? Today's Hemi is just a more modern version of the Hemi of the > > 60's that I grew to love... and it is, regardless of what you think, a > > "Hemi" engine. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:bdcUc.264901$a24.81903@attbi_s03... > > > >> The current incarnation has nothing much more than the name in common > >> with the ancestral block. > >> > >>L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed: > >> > >> > >>> For those that think the Hemi is a new idea: > >>>http://www.thehemi.com/engines.php > >>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > >>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >>> > >>>Lon wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> ... Hemi Grand SRT. 425 hp and 4wd. [autoweek] > > > > > > |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo, more inside
Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is
hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" name as pure marketing. -John "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:vjeUc.27123$TI1.17727@attbi_s52... > > What the modern "hemi" has in common with the older hemispherical > chamber'd mopars is the name...a very valuable name, becoming a > brand name all of its own. And yes, I know the difference between > a wedge head, a ram head, a hemi head, etc. etc. etc. 'twas a > DC person who made the statement that the new hemi [which has far > more actual horsepower per cube] pays homage to the older generation > but is not a descendent. > > Jerry Bransford proclaimed: > > > So you didn't know about the hemispherical combustion chamber that both > > engines have? Today's Hemi is just a more modern version of the Hemi of the > > 60's that I grew to love... and it is, regardless of what you think, a > > "Hemi" engine. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:bdcUc.264901$a24.81903@attbi_s03... > > > >> The current incarnation has nothing much more than the name in common > >> with the ancestral block. > >> > >>L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed: > >> > >> > >>> For those that think the Hemi is a new idea: > >>>http://www.thehemi.com/engines.php > >>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > >>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >>> > >>>Lon wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> ... Hemi Grand SRT. 425 hp and 4wd. [autoweek] > > > > > > |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 20044.0LLaredo, more inside
Look at how the chambers look on an old 426 Hemi:
http://www.thehemi.com/notable.php?id=005 Then tell how you may "squished in on the sides". Especially when it says it is a "Aluminum cast true-Hemi cylinder heads": http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020531-1 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Generic wrote: > > Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is > hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely > like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the > open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" > name as pure marketing. > > -John |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 20044.0LLaredo, more inside
Look at how the chambers look on an old 426 Hemi:
http://www.thehemi.com/notable.php?id=005 Then tell how you may "squished in on the sides". Especially when it says it is a "Aluminum cast true-Hemi cylinder heads": http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020531-1 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Generic wrote: > > Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is > hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely > like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the > open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" > name as pure marketing. > > -John |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 20044.0LLaredo, more inside
Look at how the chambers look on an old 426 Hemi:
http://www.thehemi.com/notable.php?id=005 Then tell how you may "squished in on the sides". Especially when it says it is a "Aluminum cast true-Hemi cylinder heads": http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020531-1 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Generic wrote: > > Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is > hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely > like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the > open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" > name as pure marketing. > > -John |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 20044.0LLaredo, more inside
Look at how the chambers look on an old 426 Hemi:
http://www.thehemi.com/notable.php?id=005 Then tell how you may "squished in on the sides". Especially when it says it is a "Aluminum cast true-Hemi cylinder heads": http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020531-1 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Generic wrote: > > Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is > hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely > like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the > open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" > name as pure marketing. > > -John |
Re: HELP deciding which ZJ to buy 2001 4.7L Limited or 2004 4.0LLaredo, more inside
See link.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html There's a quote half way down, copied here for your convenience: "...There is also a little problem called "flame quench" (which causes additional NOx) with a true Hemi design, as was used on the V16 aircraft engine and the automotive engines produced in the 1950s. Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only. [Editor's note: Bob is referring to the head design. It is not a true hemispherical head, but looks vaguely like a hemispherical head with parts filled in.]" Here's a nice photo of the new head and the oval or squished in "Hemi." http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0403phr_hemi/ These pages have a lot of other good info. -John "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4121819A.79839FC2@cox.net... > Look at how the chambers look on an old 426 Hemi: > http://www.thehemi.com/notable.php?id=005 Then tell how you may > "squished in on the sides". Especially when it says it is a "Aluminum > cast true-Hemi cylinder heads": > http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020531-1 > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Generic wrote: > > > > Yes, I assume that was said in reference to the fact that the new "Hemi" is > > hemispherical on one axis and squished in on the sides. Not even remotely > > like the heads of the originals. Maybe it should have been called the > > open-on-the-bottom-taco head. When it came out some criticized the "Hemi" > > name as pure marketing. > > > > -John |
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