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Mike Romain 07-09-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Good Morning,
>>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
>>> Blower.
>>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
>>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
>>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
>>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
>>> and all was well.
>>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
>>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
>>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
>>> a few days.
>>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
>>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
>>> Thanks for any advice / help!
>>> EP

>> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.
>>
>> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
>> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
>> panel.
>>
>> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
>> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.
>>
>> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?
>
> Thanks Again!
>


The switch itself. The dealer does have it.

If not, the wreckers do.

A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.

I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
can find that.

There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.

Mike

Mike Romain 07-09-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Good Morning,
>>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
>>> Blower.
>>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
>>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
>>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
>>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
>>> and all was well.
>>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
>>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
>>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
>>> a few days.
>>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
>>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
>>> Thanks for any advice / help!
>>> EP

>> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.
>>
>> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
>> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
>> panel.
>>
>> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
>> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.
>>
>> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?
>
> Thanks Again!
>


The switch itself. The dealer does have it.

If not, the wreckers do.

A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.

I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
can find that.

There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.

Mike

Mike Romain 07-09-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Good Morning,
>>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
>>> Blower.
>>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
>>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
>>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
>>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
>>> and all was well.
>>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
>>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
>>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
>>> a few days.
>>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
>>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
>>> Thanks for any advice / help!
>>> EP

>> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.
>>
>> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
>> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
>> panel.
>>
>> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
>> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.
>>
>> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?
>
> Thanks Again!
>


The switch itself. The dealer does have it.

If not, the wreckers do.

A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.

I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
can find that.

There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.

Mike

epetrill@gmail.com 07-09-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
On Jul 9, 4:10 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Good Morning,
> >>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> >>> Blower.
> >>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> >>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> >>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> >>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> >>> and all was well.
> >>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> >>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
> >>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> >>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> >>> a few days.
> >>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> >>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> >>> Thanks for any advice / help!
> >>> EP
> >> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.

>
> >> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
> >> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
> >> panel.

>
> >> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
> >> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.

>
> >> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.

>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> > of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> > but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> > you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> > Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?

>
> > Thanks Again!

>
> The switch itself. The dealer does have it.
>
> If not, the wreckers do.
>
> A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
> obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.
>
> I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
> can find that.
>
> There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
> that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.
>
> Mike


Figures.. I tried both dealers in my area.. both claim that you cannot
buy just the switch for the 97 TJ.. he said you can for some of the
other years..
I will try and check it out.. maybe I can find one at a junk yard or
something..

Thanks for the info...


epetrill@gmail.com 07-09-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
On Jul 9, 4:10 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Good Morning,
> >>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> >>> Blower.
> >>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> >>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> >>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> >>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> >>> and all was well.
> >>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> >>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
> >>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> >>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> >>> a few days.
> >>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> >>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> >>> Thanks for any advice / help!
> >>> EP
> >> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.

>
> >> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
> >> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
> >> panel.

>
> >> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
> >> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.

>
> >> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.

>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> > of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> > but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> > you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> > Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?

>
> > Thanks Again!

>
> The switch itself. The dealer does have it.
>
> If not, the wreckers do.
>
> A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
> obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.
>
> I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
> can find that.
>
> There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
> that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.
>
> Mike


Figures.. I tried both dealers in my area.. both claim that you cannot
buy just the switch for the 97 TJ.. he said you can for some of the
other years..
I will try and check it out.. maybe I can find one at a junk yard or
something..

Thanks for the info...


epetrill@gmail.com 07-09-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
On Jul 9, 4:10 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Good Morning,
> >>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> >>> Blower.
> >>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> >>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> >>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> >>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> >>> and all was well.
> >>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> >>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
> >>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> >>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> >>> a few days.
> >>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> >>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> >>> Thanks for any advice / help!
> >>> EP
> >> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.

>
> >> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
> >> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
> >> panel.

>
> >> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
> >> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.

>
> >> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.

>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> > of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> > but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> > you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> > Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?

>
> > Thanks Again!

>
> The switch itself. The dealer does have it.
>
> If not, the wreckers do.
>
> A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
> obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.
>
> I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
> can find that.
>
> There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
> that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.
>
> Mike


Figures.. I tried both dealers in my area.. both claim that you cannot
buy just the switch for the 97 TJ.. he said you can for some of the
other years..
I will try and check it out.. maybe I can find one at a junk yard or
something..

Thanks for the info...


epetrill@gmail.com 07-09-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Help: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
On Jul 9, 4:10 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 12:42 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> epetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Good Morning,
> >>> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> >>> Blower.
> >>> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> >>> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> >>> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> >>> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> >>> and all was well.
> >>> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> >>> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
> >>> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> >>> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> >>> a few days.
> >>> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> >>> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> >>> Thanks for any advice / help!
> >>> EP
> >> There is a bad batch of switches out there that can cause your symptoms.

>
> >> The switch is less than ten bucks at the dealer, but you have to get the
> >> guy to dig for it in the parts list, he will want to sell you the whole
> >> panel.

>
> >> It was posted here that it is best to take the Jeep tot he parts store
> >> so you can test it because some are bad right out of the box.

>
> >> You will want to inspect the plug for damage also.

>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Thanks for the quick response.. Is it the switch connected to the back
> > of the Climate Control panel? I took that off and took it to Auto Zone
> > but they couldn't match it. I also called the jeep dealer and (like
> > you stated) they claim to only sell it as a unit.
> > Or are you talking about the resistor under the motor?

>
> > Thanks Again!

>
> The switch itself. The dealer does have it.
>
> If not, the wreckers do.
>
> A multimeter should be able to test the switch. When mine went it was
> obviously burnt, it let the smoke out big time, but that was a Cherokee.
>
> I think someone posted a part number for it a while back, maybe Google
> can find that.
>
> There are also some ground wires that bolt to the back of the dash panel
> that also can affect the heater switch when they come loose.
>
> Mike


Figures.. I tried both dealers in my area.. both claim that you cannot
buy just the switch for the 97 TJ.. he said you can for some of the
other years..
I will try and check it out.. maybe I can find one at a junk yard or
something..

Thanks for the info...


DougW 07-09-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> Blower.
> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> and all was well.
>
> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>
> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> a few days.
>
> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> Thanks for any advice / help!


http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3144
Common problem it seems.

Checked the fuses?

Easiest way to check the motor is hook it up to 12V or drop it out
and see how easily the cage moves. Sometimes bits of the rubber
seals gets into the fan and causes so much of a pull it blows the
resistor pack.


--
DougW



DougW 07-09-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> Blower.
> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> and all was well.
>
> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>
> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> a few days.
>
> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> Thanks for any advice / help!


http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3144
Common problem it seems.

Checked the fuses?

Easiest way to check the motor is hook it up to 12V or drop it out
and see how easily the cage moves. Sometimes bits of the rubber
seals gets into the fan and causes so much of a pull it blows the
resistor pack.


--
DougW



DougW 07-09-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 97 TJ Wrangler A/C / Heater Blower Problem
 
epetrill wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I am trying to narrow down what may be wrong with my A/C /Heater
> Blower.
> The problem first started with just the high setting not working. All
> other settings were fine but when on the highest setting it would stop
> blowing. IT's like it would just cut off. I could still feel the warm
> or cold air trickling out but no blowing, back to the first 3 settings
> and all was well.
>
> Now all of a sudden none of the settings are working. The compressor
> kicks on and cool air trickles out but the blower won't kick on.
>
> I tried the relay behind the glove box that did not work. I just order
> the resistor that is by the pass. floorboard but it won't be here for
> a few days.
>
> Is there anything I can check to see if the motor itself is bad or
> could it be something else that I need to change / check.
> Thanks for any advice / help!


http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3144
Common problem it seems.

Checked the fuses?

Easiest way to check the motor is hook it up to 12V or drop it out
and see how easily the cage moves. Sometimes bits of the rubber
seals gets into the fan and causes so much of a pull it blows the
resistor pack.


--
DougW




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