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97tjMike 05-13-2007 12:33 AM

HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
Hello everyone:

I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was
driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into
neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom,
nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly
I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in
Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes
I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed
away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of
the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was
accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the
engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even
if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH,
which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission
slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it
into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake
and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to
influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip
along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna
have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my
fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I
haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the
offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen
anyways? Please help.

Thanks,
Mik

97 TJ
68,000 Miles
Auto Tranny


XS11E 05-13-2007 12:43 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> but I haven't checked the level yet.


I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


XS11E 05-13-2007 12:43 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> but I haven't checked the level yet.


I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


XS11E 05-13-2007 12:43 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> but I haven't checked the level yet.


I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


XS11E 05-13-2007 12:43 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> but I haven't checked the level yet.


I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 12:51 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> > but I haven't checked the level yet.

>
> I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a
while and no leaks anywhere.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 12:51 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> > but I haven't checked the level yet.

>
> I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a
while and no leaks anywhere.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 12:51 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> > but I haven't checked the level yet.

>
> I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a
while and no leaks anywhere.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 12:51 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color
> > but I haven't checked the level yet.

>
> I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop.


I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a
while and no leaks anywhere.


c 05-13-2007 01:12 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was
> driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into
> neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom,
> nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly
> I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in
> Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes
> I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed
> away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of
> the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was
> accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the
> engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even
> if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH,
> which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission
> slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it
> into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake
> and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to
> influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip
> along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna
> have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my
> fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I
> haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the
> offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen
> anyways? Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Mik
>
> 97 TJ
> 68,000 Miles
> Auto Tranny
>


If it doesn't move in any gear, it is probably something wrong in the
transmission pump. Usually, but not always, if a seal or clutch goes bad
you will only lose 1 or 2 gears. Most transmissions have 2 or 3 pressure
ports at the side of the case. If you know someone that has the service
repair manual for your trans, you can get the pressure specs and hook a
gauge to the ports. If the pressures at all the ports are low, then the
pump has failed. If only one of them is low, then a seal on one of the
pistons has let go, or possibly there is a valve stuck in the valve
body. Whatever you do, do not try to drive it anymore!!! If the pressure
is low from the pump, trying to move it will only damage the band(s) and
clutches. If the pump is in fact bad, you can just have the pump serviced.

Before you do that though, I would drain the fluid and see if there is
any sign of clutch facing material in the pan. If the fluid is full of
crud, then it's probably rebuild time.

Several transmissions have had service problems with the pumps caused
from the rotors or vanes in the pump cracking, or even sticking. Could
also be a seal in the pump.

Like I said though, it is imparitive that you do NOT try to move it any
more under its own power until you find the problem. It could save you a
complete rebuild.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 01:12 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was
> driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into
> neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom,
> nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly
> I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in
> Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes
> I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed
> away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of
> the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was
> accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the
> engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even
> if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH,
> which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission
> slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it
> into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake
> and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to
> influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip
> along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna
> have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my
> fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I
> haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the
> offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen
> anyways? Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Mik
>
> 97 TJ
> 68,000 Miles
> Auto Tranny
>


If it doesn't move in any gear, it is probably something wrong in the
transmission pump. Usually, but not always, if a seal or clutch goes bad
you will only lose 1 or 2 gears. Most transmissions have 2 or 3 pressure
ports at the side of the case. If you know someone that has the service
repair manual for your trans, you can get the pressure specs and hook a
gauge to the ports. If the pressures at all the ports are low, then the
pump has failed. If only one of them is low, then a seal on one of the
pistons has let go, or possibly there is a valve stuck in the valve
body. Whatever you do, do not try to drive it anymore!!! If the pressure
is low from the pump, trying to move it will only damage the band(s) and
clutches. If the pump is in fact bad, you can just have the pump serviced.

Before you do that though, I would drain the fluid and see if there is
any sign of clutch facing material in the pan. If the fluid is full of
crud, then it's probably rebuild time.

Several transmissions have had service problems with the pumps caused
from the rotors or vanes in the pump cracking, or even sticking. Could
also be a seal in the pump.

Like I said though, it is imparitive that you do NOT try to move it any
more under its own power until you find the problem. It could save you a
complete rebuild.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 01:12 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was
> driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into
> neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom,
> nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly
> I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in
> Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes
> I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed
> away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of
> the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was
> accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the
> engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even
> if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH,
> which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission
> slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it
> into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake
> and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to
> influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip
> along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna
> have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my
> fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I
> haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the
> offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen
> anyways? Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Mik
>
> 97 TJ
> 68,000 Miles
> Auto Tranny
>


If it doesn't move in any gear, it is probably something wrong in the
transmission pump. Usually, but not always, if a seal or clutch goes bad
you will only lose 1 or 2 gears. Most transmissions have 2 or 3 pressure
ports at the side of the case. If you know someone that has the service
repair manual for your trans, you can get the pressure specs and hook a
gauge to the ports. If the pressures at all the ports are low, then the
pump has failed. If only one of them is low, then a seal on one of the
pistons has let go, or possibly there is a valve stuck in the valve
body. Whatever you do, do not try to drive it anymore!!! If the pressure
is low from the pump, trying to move it will only damage the band(s) and
clutches. If the pump is in fact bad, you can just have the pump serviced.

Before you do that though, I would drain the fluid and see if there is
any sign of clutch facing material in the pan. If the fluid is full of
crud, then it's probably rebuild time.

Several transmissions have had service problems with the pumps caused
from the rotors or vanes in the pump cracking, or even sticking. Could
also be a seal in the pump.

Like I said though, it is imparitive that you do NOT try to move it any
more under its own power until you find the problem. It could save you a
complete rebuild.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 01:12 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was
> driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into
> neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom,
> nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly
> I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in
> Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes
> I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed
> away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of
> the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was
> accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the
> engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even
> if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH,
> which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission
> slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it
> into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake
> and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to
> influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip
> along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna
> have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my
> fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I
> haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the
> offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen
> anyways? Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Mik
>
> 97 TJ
> 68,000 Miles
> Auto Tranny
>


If it doesn't move in any gear, it is probably something wrong in the
transmission pump. Usually, but not always, if a seal or clutch goes bad
you will only lose 1 or 2 gears. Most transmissions have 2 or 3 pressure
ports at the side of the case. If you know someone that has the service
repair manual for your trans, you can get the pressure specs and hook a
gauge to the ports. If the pressures at all the ports are low, then the
pump has failed. If only one of them is low, then a seal on one of the
pistons has let go, or possibly there is a valve stuck in the valve
body. Whatever you do, do not try to drive it anymore!!! If the pressure
is low from the pump, trying to move it will only damage the band(s) and
clutches. If the pump is in fact bad, you can just have the pump serviced.

Before you do that though, I would drain the fluid and see if there is
any sign of clutch facing material in the pan. If the fluid is full of
crud, then it's probably rebuild time.

Several transmissions have had service problems with the pumps caused
from the rotors or vanes in the pump cracking, or even sticking. Could
also be a seal in the pump.

Like I said though, it is imparitive that you do NOT try to move it any
more under its own power until you find the problem. It could save you a
complete rebuild.

Chris

97tjMike 05-13-2007 08:03 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
doing anything?


97tjMike 05-13-2007 08:03 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
doing anything?


97tjMike 05-13-2007 08:03 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
doing anything?


97tjMike 05-13-2007 08:03 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
doing anything?


Earle Horton 05-13-2007 12:10 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>

Yours doesn't go anywhere. It sounds as if it's already had one nail in the
coffin. If you have a decent place to work on it, you won't harm anything
by dropping the pan to see what kind of crud has collected in the sump. You
are probably going to have it towed to a transmission shop anyway. There is
a slight chance that your problem is a clogged filter, and that changing it
will make everything right.

Earle



Earle Horton 05-13-2007 12:10 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>

Yours doesn't go anywhere. It sounds as if it's already had one nail in the
coffin. If you have a decent place to work on it, you won't harm anything
by dropping the pan to see what kind of crud has collected in the sump. You
are probably going to have it towed to a transmission shop anyway. There is
a slight chance that your problem is a clogged filter, and that changing it
will make everything right.

Earle



Earle Horton 05-13-2007 12:10 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>

Yours doesn't go anywhere. It sounds as if it's already had one nail in the
coffin. If you have a decent place to work on it, you won't harm anything
by dropping the pan to see what kind of crud has collected in the sump. You
are probably going to have it towed to a transmission shop anyway. There is
a slight chance that your problem is a clogged filter, and that changing it
will make everything right.

Earle



Earle Horton 05-13-2007 12:10 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>

Yours doesn't go anywhere. It sounds as if it's already had one nail in the
coffin. If you have a decent place to work on it, you won't harm anything
by dropping the pan to see what kind of crud has collected in the sump. You
are probably going to have it towed to a transmission shop anyway. There is
a slight chance that your problem is a clogged filter, and that changing it
will make everything right.

Earle



97tjMike 05-13-2007 10:08 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
enjoyed having mud run through it.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 10:08 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
enjoyed having mud run through it.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 10:08 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
enjoyed having mud run through it.


97tjMike 05-13-2007 10:08 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
enjoyed having mud run through it.


c 05-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
> fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
> for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
> parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
> filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
> enjoyed having mud run through it.
>



I would also recommend pulling the cooler lines and flushing them out.
Hopefully the filter stopped the crud from going in to the internals of
the trans, but I would flush everything just as a precaution.

That med would clog the filter up real fast, so that would explain why
your trans did what it did.

If it fixes the problem, I would change the fluid and filter one more
time after you run it for a few days because most likely there will
still be some crud in the nooks and crannies.

Good luck.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
> fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
> for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
> parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
> filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
> enjoyed having mud run through it.
>



I would also recommend pulling the cooler lines and flushing them out.
Hopefully the filter stopped the crud from going in to the internals of
the trans, but I would flush everything just as a precaution.

That med would clog the filter up real fast, so that would explain why
your trans did what it did.

If it fixes the problem, I would change the fluid and filter one more
time after you run it for a few days because most likely there will
still be some crud in the nooks and crannies.

Good luck.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
> fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
> for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
> parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
> filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
> enjoyed having mud run through it.
>



I would also recommend pulling the cooler lines and flushing them out.
Hopefully the filter stopped the crud from going in to the internals of
the trans, but I would flush everything just as a precaution.

That med would clog the filter up real fast, so that would explain why
your trans did what it did.

If it fixes the problem, I would change the fluid and filter one more
time after you run it for a few days because most likely there will
still be some crud in the nooks and crannies.

Good luck.

Chris

c 05-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike wrote:
> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy transmission
> fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm really mad at myself
> for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try cleaning it out with brake
> parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple of times. And of course a new
> filter. Hopefully that's all it needs, but I can't imagine the pump
> enjoyed having mud run through it.
>



I would also recommend pulling the cooler lines and flushing them out.
Hopefully the filter stopped the crud from going in to the internals of
the trans, but I would flush everything just as a precaution.

That med would clog the filter up real fast, so that would explain why
your trans did what it did.

If it fixes the problem, I would change the fluid and filter one more
time after you run it for a few days because most likely there will
still be some crud in the nooks and crannies.

Good luck.

Chris

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-14-2007 12:31 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've never heard that, often the filter is clogged, and that's only way
you may find that out. Then again many times I've pulled the pan and parts
would fall out, making it not worth re-filling, and custom would have it
towed to their favorite transmission repair shop.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-14-2007 12:31 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've never heard that, often the filter is clogged, and that's only way
you may find that out. Then again many times I've pulled the pan and parts
would fall out, making it not worth re-filling, and custom would have it
towed to their favorite transmission repair shop.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-14-2007 12:31 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've never heard that, often the filter is clogged, and that's only way
you may find that out. Then again many times I've pulled the pan and parts
would fall out, making it not worth re-filling, and custom would have it
towed to their favorite transmission repair shop.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-14-2007 12:31 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
I've never heard that, often the filter is clogged, and that's only way
you may find that out. Then again many times I've pulled the pan and parts
would fall out, making it not worth re-filling, and custom would have it
towed to their favorite transmission repair shop.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179057785.881294.73290@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> I've read otherwhere on these forums that changing fluid on a dying
> transmission can be the nail in the coffin. should I ask a shop before
> doing anything?
>




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XS11E 05-14-2007 01:44 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> it.


I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>

XS11E 05-14-2007 01:44 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> it.


I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>

XS11E 05-14-2007 01:44 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> it.


I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>

XS11E 05-14-2007 01:44 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> it.


I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>

97tjMike 05-14-2007 07:30 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 14, 1:44 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> > transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> > really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> > cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> > of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> > needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> > it.

>
> I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
> to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>


Well I was under the impression that I was ok to go up to the air
intake. I didn't get quite that high, but apparently high enough to
get to the transmission vent tube?


97tjMike 05-14-2007 07:30 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 14, 1:44 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> > transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> > really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> > cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> > of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> > needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> > it.

>
> I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
> to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>


Well I was under the impression that I was ok to go up to the air
intake. I didn't get quite that high, but apparently high enough to
get to the transmission vent tube?


97tjMike 05-14-2007 07:30 AM

Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
 
On May 14, 1:44 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well I did end up dropping the pan, only to find muddy
> > transmission fluid.....apparently mud found its way in and I'm
> > really mad at myself for mud bogging. But anyways I'm gonna try
> > cleaning it out with brake parts cleaner, and flushing it a couple
> > of times. And of course a new filter. Hopefully that's all it
> > needs, but I can't imagine the pump enjoyed having mud run through
> > it.

>
> I hope it works but, if everything is OK mud shouldn't have been able
> to get in there, just how deep in the mud were you? <G>


Well I was under the impression that I was ok to go up to the air
intake. I didn't get quite that high, but apparently high enough to
get to the transmission vent tube?



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