HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
Hello everyone:
I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom, nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH, which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen anyways? Please help. Thanks, Mik 97 TJ 68,000 Miles Auto Tranny |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > but I haven't checked the level yet. I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > but I haven't checked the level yet. I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > but I haven't checked the level yet. I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > but I haven't checked the level yet. I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > > but I haven't checked the level yet. > > I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a while and no leaks anywhere. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > > but I haven't checked the level yet. > > I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a while and no leaks anywhere. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > > but I haven't checked the level yet. > > I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a while and no leaks anywhere. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
On May 13, 12:43 am, XS11E <xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe my fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color > > but I haven't checked the level yet. > > I'd check the level first, if it's OK you'll need to tow it to a shop. I'll do that ASAP. Also I didnt mention, its been sitting now for a while and no leaks anywhere. |
Re: HELP! 97 TJ Transmission Problem!
97tjMike wrote:
> Hello everyone: > > I was offroading today in a mud pit. After having a lot of fun, I was > driving around in the mud pit, and suddely my transmission went into > neutral, and I was unable to shift into any gears. No bang, boom, > nothing. I didn't hit anything. I didnt' feel anything. Just suddenly > I looked at my RPMs and then were way up and found out I was in > Neutral. Unable to move in any gear (automatic transmission), and yes > I tried moving the transfer case in and out of 4x4 etc., I was towed > away from the mud and was able to take a look. Nothing seemed out of > the ordinary. We tried it again and it started moving, but was > accomponied by a loud wining sound. The Jeep drives but if I rev the > engine, the sound got louder (this sound does NOT occur in park, even > if I rev it). So I went onto pavement, and got to around 15/20 MPH, > which was at way higher RPMs than normal, and them my transmission > slipped back into neutral and the noise went away. So then I put it > into park and back into D a couple of times, and pulled the E brake > and let it back down (sounds unrelated I know but that seemed to > influence it) and then I'd hear the noise again and it'd move but slip > along. What's going on? Currently I can't drive my Jeep and I'm gonna > have to tow it somewhere, but I'd like an idea or something. Maybe my > fluid is low? I checked the fluid and its the right color but I > haven't checked the level yet. Maybe this is unrelated to the > offroading and the transmission had a problem waiting to happen > anyways? Please help. > > Thanks, > Mik > > 97 TJ > 68,000 Miles > Auto Tranny > If it doesn't move in any gear, it is probably something wrong in the transmission pump. Usually, but not always, if a seal or clutch goes bad you will only lose 1 or 2 gears. Most transmissions have 2 or 3 pressure ports at the side of the case. If you know someone that has the service repair manual for your trans, you can get the pressure specs and hook a gauge to the ports. If the pressures at all the ports are low, then the pump has failed. If only one of them is low, then a seal on one of the pistons has let go, or possibly there is a valve stuck in the valve body. Whatever you do, do not try to drive it anymore!!! If the pressure is low from the pump, trying to move it will only damage the band(s) and clutches. If the pump is in fact bad, you can just have the pump serviced. Before you do that though, I would drain the fluid and see if there is any sign of clutch facing material in the pan. If the fluid is full of crud, then it's probably rebuild time. Several transmissions have had service problems with the pumps caused from the rotors or vanes in the pump cracking, or even sticking. Could also be a seal in the pump. Like I said though, it is imparitive that you do NOT try to move it any more under its own power until you find the problem. It could save you a complete rebuild. Chris |
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