HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
07-16-2004, 11:36 AM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
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> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
07-16-2004, 11:36 AM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
Responses In-Line:
> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
07-16-2004, 11:36 AM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
Responses In-Line:
> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
> I was told that I will need adjustable rear control arms to help
> the pinion angle. What kind should I get? Should I get them for the front as
> well?
Adjustable control arms will be necessary to change your rear pinion
angle. You want the rear pinion input to point directly at the CV
joint in the rear driveshaft. You can get either adjustable uppers,
adjustable lowers, or both. You would need both to keep the axle in
the same exact location as it is now (lengthen the upper, shorten the
lower). However, you'd also be fine to just get adjustable lowers
(what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
> I also saw some raised poly motor mounts. Are these gonna help anything
> in my situation? Thanks again everyone.
The raised motor mounts can help with driveline angles, but your CV
shaft and a properly angled rear pinion should be sufficient on its
own. If you do ever decide to go with aftermarket (raised or not)
motor mounts, I would recommend against getting the kind with
polyurethane bushings. These will transmit much more engine vibrations
through the frame and into the cab. I have aftermarket motor mounts,
but made sure to get some with high-strength rubber bushings. Mine are
the M.O.R.E. brand (MORE sells both the poly and rubber styles, I got
their rubber style).
/Bob
07-16-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-16-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-16-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: HELP: 97 TJ Adjustable Rear Control Arms....
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:47b769ae.0407160736.6add74fe@posting.google.c om...However, you'd also
be fine to just get adjustable lowers
> (what I have done) and leave the uppers stock. Shorten the lowers
> alone. It doesn't take a lot to angle that pinion up where you want
> it. You may lose an inch of wheelbase at most.
True but shortening the wheelbase any at all, even just an inch, is not a
great idea on a Wrangler that already has a very short wheelbase. If I had
a choice between buying upper or lower adjustable-length arms for setting
the pinion angle, uppers win every time in my opinion. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/