campbell c freeman

thanks Matt,

...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured, &
even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that this
was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with
a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.

same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only thing
i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although they had
just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called them for
some them last week.

Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or equivalent."
No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is about 1.5 litres.
no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep out the fill hole.

I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were 17
or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not have
one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.

Thanks very much,

campbell freeman


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a NV3500
> or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get the fluid
> specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550 has an
> integral bellhousing.
>
> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> greetings all,
>>
>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>> present time.
>>
>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual, which,
>> btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my 2001
>> wrangler sport.
>>
>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the same
>> part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though it that
>> those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i think it was a
>> NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not yet
>> purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>
>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>> lubricant.
>>
>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information from
>> one of the many experts here.
>>
>> as always thanks very much.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> campbell freeman
>> south carolina
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for an
equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar lube
was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be the
first time a dealer's database is wrong.

As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from leaking,
I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to overtighten on an
aluminum housing.

I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.

"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> thanks Matt,
>
> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>
> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
> them for some them last week.
>
> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or equivalent."
> No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is about 1.5
> litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep out the
> fill hole.
>
> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550 has
>> an integral bellhousing.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> greetings all,
>>>
>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>> present time.
>>>
>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual, which,
>>> btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my 2001
>>> wrangler sport.
>>>
>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i think
>>> it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not
>>> yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>
>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>> lubricant.
>>>
>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information from
>>> one of the many experts here.
>>>
>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>> south carolina
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for an
equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar lube
was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be the
first time a dealer's database is wrong.

As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from leaking,
I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to overtighten on an
aluminum housing.

I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.

"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> thanks Matt,
>
> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>
> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
> them for some them last week.
>
> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or equivalent."
> No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is about 1.5
> litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep out the
> fill hole.
>
> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550 has
>> an integral bellhousing.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> greetings all,
>>>
>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>> present time.
>>>
>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual, which,
>>> btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my 2001
>>> wrangler sport.
>>>
>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i think
>>> it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not
>>> yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>
>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>> lubricant.
>>>
>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information from
>>> one of the many experts here.
>>>
>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>> south carolina
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for an
equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar lube
was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be the
first time a dealer's database is wrong.

As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from leaking,
I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to overtighten on an
aluminum housing.

I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.

"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> thanks Matt,
>
> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>
> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
> them for some them last week.
>
> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or equivalent."
> No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is about 1.5
> litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep out the
> fill hole.
>
> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550 has
>> an integral bellhousing.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> greetings all,
>>>
>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>> present time.
>>>
>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual, which,
>>> btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my 2001
>>> wrangler sport.
>>>
>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i think
>>> it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not
>>> yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>
>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>> lubricant.
>>>
>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information from
>>> one of the many experts here.
>>>
>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>> south carolina
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for an
equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar lube
was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be the
first time a dealer's database is wrong.

As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from leaking,
I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to overtighten on an
aluminum housing.

I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.

"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> thanks Matt,
>
> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>
> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
> them for some them last week.
>
> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or equivalent."
> No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is about 1.5
> litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep out the
> fill hole.
>
> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550 has
>> an integral bellhousing.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> greetings all,
>>>
>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>> present time.
>>>
>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual, which,
>>> btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my 2001
>>> wrangler sport.
>>>
>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i think
>>> it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not
>>> yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>
>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>> lubricant.
>>>
>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information from
>>> one of the many experts here.
>>>
>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>> south carolina
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Thanks Matt, et al,

I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk in
Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
written the following:

"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines in
the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."

Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
Germany. ..."

....now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is not
a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.

it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."


campbell freeman




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>
> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>
> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>
> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>> thanks Matt,
>>
>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
>> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
>> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
>> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>
>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>> them for some them last week.
>>
>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>> out the fill hole.
>>
>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
>> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>> greetings all,
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>> present time.
>>>>
>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>
>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>> lubricant.
>>>>
>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>
>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>> south carolina
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Thanks Matt, et al,

I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk in
Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
written the following:

"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines in
the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."

Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
Germany. ..."

....now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is not
a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.

it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."


campbell freeman




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>
> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>
> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>
> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>> thanks Matt,
>>
>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
>> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
>> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
>> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>
>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>> them for some them last week.
>>
>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>> out the fill hole.
>>
>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
>> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>> greetings all,
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>> present time.
>>>>
>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>
>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>> lubricant.
>>>>
>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>
>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>> south carolina
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Thanks Matt, et al,

I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk in
Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
written the following:

"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines in
the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."

Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
Germany. ..."

....now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is not
a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.

it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."


campbell freeman




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>
> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>
> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>
> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>> thanks Matt,
>>
>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
>> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
>> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
>> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>
>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>> them for some them last week.
>>
>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>> out the fill hole.
>>
>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
>> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>> greetings all,
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>> present time.
>>>>
>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>
>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>> lubricant.
>>>>
>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>
>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>> south carolina
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Thanks Matt, et al,

I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk in
Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
written the following:

"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines in
the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."

Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
Germany. ..."

....now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is not
a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.

it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."


campbell freeman




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>
> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>
> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>
> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>> thanks Matt,
>>
>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled assured,
>> & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep dealership, that
>> this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5 Jeep Wrangler
>> Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>
>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>> them for some them last week.
>>
>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>> out the fill hole.
>>
>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do not
>> have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>> greetings all,
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>> present time.
>>>>
>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>
>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>
>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as to
>>>> the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>> lubricant.
>>>>
>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>
>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>> south carolina
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
Equipment
http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html



"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
> Thanks Matt, et al,
>
> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
> written the following:
>
> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>
> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
> Germany. ..."
>
> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>
> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
>> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
>> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
>> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
>> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>
>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>
>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> thanks Matt,
>>>
>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>
>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>>> them for some them last week.
>>>
>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>>> out the fill hole.
>>>
>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do
>>> not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>
>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>> present time.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>
>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>