Hello Nathan Collier
12-17-2003, 11:24 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or "Jeoples" which rhymes with "Peoples"
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 11:24 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or "Jeoples" which rhymes with "Peoples"
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 11:24 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or "Jeoples" which rhymes with "Peoples"
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mk%Db.2796$Ts5.901@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 11:34 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or jeoples.. like peoples ?
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mk%Db.2796$Ts5.901@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 11:34 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or jeoples.. like peoples ?
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mk%Db.2796$Ts5.901@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 11:34 AM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
or jeoples.. like peoples ?
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mk%Db.2796$Ts5.901@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mk%Db.2796$Ts5.901@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
>
> "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> > Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > > anything else from D-C?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> > Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> > owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> > identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> > little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> > The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> > children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> > once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> > use that name.
> > I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> > contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> > Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> > treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> > is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> > not have some sort of trials and tribulations.
>
>
12-17-2003, 12:02 PM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
You really don't think Daimler's ***** won't go after that, too?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
12-17-2003, 12:02 PM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
You really don't think Daimler's ***** won't go after that, too?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
12-17-2003, 12:02 PM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
You really don't think Daimler's ***** won't go after that, too?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
> jeeples but not the same spelling...
12-17-2003, 12:13 PM
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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's **** gestapo
tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Hall wrote:
>
> Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
> a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
> and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
> junk, BTW..
>
> Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
> using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
> 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
> is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Hall wrote:
>
> Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
> a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
> and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
> junk, BTW..
>
> Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
> using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
> 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
> is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..