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billy ray 10-07-2006 10:11 AM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 
I prefer this wiring plan.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/foglite.jpg



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4527B4AA.F2B2D888@sympatico.ca...
> Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
>
> There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
>
> These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
>
> I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> tagged to the dash ground.
>
> Here is a link that explains relays:
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>
> I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Christine wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
>> lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
>> what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
>> in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
>> that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
>> the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
>> fog lamps.




billy ray 10-07-2006 10:11 AM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 
I prefer this wiring plan.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/foglite.jpg



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4527B4AA.F2B2D888@sympatico.ca...
> Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
>
> There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
>
> These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
>
> I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> tagged to the dash ground.
>
> Here is a link that explains relays:
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>
> I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Christine wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
>> lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
>> what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
>> in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
>> that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
>> the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
>> fog lamps.




Christine 10-08-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
>
> There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
>
> These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
>
> I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> tagged to the dash ground.
>
> Here is a link that explains relays:
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>
> I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Christine wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > fog lamps.


They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
need it wired to the low beams.


Christine 10-08-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
>
> There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
>
> These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
>
> I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> tagged to the dash ground.
>
> Here is a link that explains relays:
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>
> I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Christine wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > fog lamps.


They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
need it wired to the low beams.


Christine 10-08-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
>
> There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
>
> These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
>
> I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> tagged to the dash ground.
>
> Here is a link that explains relays:
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>
> I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Christine wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > fog lamps.


They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
need it wired to the low beams.


Mike Romain 10-08-2006 02:44 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 
Christine wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
> >
> > There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> > circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
> >
> > These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> > useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> > highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
> >
> > I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> > ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> > with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> > I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> > tagged to the dash ground.
> >
> > Here is a link that explains relays:
> > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
> >
> > I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > Christine wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > > fog lamps.

>
> They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
> independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
> need it wired to the low beams.


I have mine independently wired up just like the last drawing. For the
power wires, 10 gauge is the best and it needs to be fused close to the
battery or power distribution box power bolt.

If you follow one battery cable, you will find it goes to the power
distribution box. The first bolt there is the place to hook in for
independent power. The Jeep's harness fuse links hook on there too.
You should run a dedicated ground line for them so you don't overload
the stock ground straps. You can also attach this where the battery
cable ends on the same bolt to save messing around on the battery
clamps.

The long run into the switch for the trigger can be done in 18 ga. or
less even. If it is used for the trigger ground you can run a two wire
strand like cheap speaker wire and ground it back at the same place or
it would be safe to ground that to the body because it draws very little
power.

Just FYI, I don't like 'fog' lights for off road use. They are mounted
low so you lose the bottoms of the potholes in shadows and can't see how
deep the suckers are.

I love fog lights for fog though! The yellow lenses are the best by far
for that. Over on the east coast of Canada at least, all the main
coastal highway intersections use yellow, same as the bridges. Coming
up on a white street light vs a yellow one there is a radical difference
in how soon you can see them. The white one just pops up out of
nowhere.

Mike

Mike Romain 10-08-2006 02:44 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 
Christine wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
> >
> > There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> > circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
> >
> > These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> > useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> > highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
> >
> > I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> > ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> > with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> > I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> > tagged to the dash ground.
> >
> > Here is a link that explains relays:
> > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
> >
> > I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > Christine wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > > fog lamps.

>
> They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
> independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
> need it wired to the low beams.


I have mine independently wired up just like the last drawing. For the
power wires, 10 gauge is the best and it needs to be fused close to the
battery or power distribution box power bolt.

If you follow one battery cable, you will find it goes to the power
distribution box. The first bolt there is the place to hook in for
independent power. The Jeep's harness fuse links hook on there too.
You should run a dedicated ground line for them so you don't overload
the stock ground straps. You can also attach this where the battery
cable ends on the same bolt to save messing around on the battery
clamps.

The long run into the switch for the trigger can be done in 18 ga. or
less even. If it is used for the trigger ground you can run a two wire
strand like cheap speaker wire and ground it back at the same place or
it would be safe to ground that to the body because it draws very little
power.

Just FYI, I don't like 'fog' lights for off road use. They are mounted
low so you lose the bottoms of the potholes in shadows and can't see how
deep the suckers are.

I love fog lights for fog though! The yellow lenses are the best by far
for that. Over on the east coast of Canada at least, all the main
coastal highway intersections use yellow, same as the bridges. Coming
up on a white street light vs a yellow one there is a radical difference
in how soon you can see them. The white one just pops up out of
nowhere.

Mike

Mike Romain 10-08-2006 02:44 PM

Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
 
Christine wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
> >
> > There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam
> > circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit.
> >
> > These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally
> > useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the
> > highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals.
> >
> > I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up
> > ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them
> > with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so
> > I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other
> > tagged to the dash ground.
> >
> > Here is a link that explains relays:
> > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
> >
> > I have mine wired independently like the last drawing.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> > Christine wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog
> > > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and
> > > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics
> > > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps
> > > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like
> > > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other
> > > fog lamps.

>
> They are a set of fog lamps, but i would like them to work
> independently from the low and high beams if i can. Otherwise i would
> need it wired to the low beams.


I have mine independently wired up just like the last drawing. For the
power wires, 10 gauge is the best and it needs to be fused close to the
battery or power distribution box power bolt.

If you follow one battery cable, you will find it goes to the power
distribution box. The first bolt there is the place to hook in for
independent power. The Jeep's harness fuse links hook on there too.
You should run a dedicated ground line for them so you don't overload
the stock ground straps. You can also attach this where the battery
cable ends on the same bolt to save messing around on the battery
clamps.

The long run into the switch for the trigger can be done in 18 ga. or
less even. If it is used for the trigger ground you can run a two wire
strand like cheap speaker wire and ground it back at the same place or
it would be safe to ground that to the body because it draws very little
power.

Just FYI, I don't like 'fog' lights for off road use. They are mounted
low so you lose the bottoms of the potholes in shadows and can't see how
deep the suckers are.

I love fog lights for fog though! The yellow lenses are the best by far
for that. Over on the east coast of Canada at least, all the main
coastal highway intersections use yellow, same as the bridges. Coming
up on a white street light vs a yellow one there is a radical difference
in how soon you can see them. The white one just pops up out of
nowhere.

Mike


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