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Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay
automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are going to be her hardest part. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > to > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > Just > my $0.02. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? >> >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? >> >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > iron, >> etc.? >> >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the >> mount? >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > with >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> >> > >> >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > relays >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> wiring also? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of >> >> >> > what >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > for >> >> >> > your help so far. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and >> >> > wire. >> >> > >> > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. >> > >> >> > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay
automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are going to be her hardest part. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > to > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > Just > my $0.02. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? >> >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? >> >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > iron, >> etc.? >> >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the >> mount? >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > with >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> >> > >> >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > relays >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> wiring also? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of >> >> >> > what >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > for >> >> >> > your help so far. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and >> >> > wire. >> >> > >> > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. >> > >> >> > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay
automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are going to be her hardest part. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > to > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > Just > my $0.02. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? >> >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? >> >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > iron, >> etc.? >> >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the >> mount? >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > with >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> >> > >> >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > relays >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> wiring also? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of >> >> >> > what >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > for >> >> >> > your help so far. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and >> >> > wire. >> >> > >> > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. >> > >> >> > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Yeah, but believe it or not, there are people who get that deer in the
headlights look, just from people saying "relay", "wire gauge", "circuit breaker" or whatever. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:69ffd$4526ec0d$422afc51$13456@FUSE.NET... > If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay > automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. > > Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are > going to be her hardest part. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > > to > > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > > Just > > my $0.02. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... > >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? > >> > >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? > >> > >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > > iron, > >> etc.? > >> > >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the > >> mount? > >> > >> > >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >> > > >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > > with > >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> > > >> >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > > relays > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> wiring also? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of > >> >> >> > what > >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > > for > >> >> >> > your help so far. > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and > >> >> > wire. > >> >> > > >> > > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not > >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just > >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Yeah, but believe it or not, there are people who get that deer in the
headlights look, just from people saying "relay", "wire gauge", "circuit breaker" or whatever. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:69ffd$4526ec0d$422afc51$13456@FUSE.NET... > If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay > automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. > > Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are > going to be her hardest part. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > > to > > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > > Just > > my $0.02. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... > >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? > >> > >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? > >> > >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > > iron, > >> etc.? > >> > >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the > >> mount? > >> > >> > >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >> > > >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > > with > >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> > > >> >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > > relays > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> wiring also? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of > >> >> >> > what > >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > > for > >> >> >> > your help so far. > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and > >> >> > wire. > >> >> > > >> > > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not > >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just > >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Yeah, but believe it or not, there are people who get that deer in the
headlights look, just from people saying "relay", "wire gauge", "circuit breaker" or whatever. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:69ffd$4526ec0d$422afc51$13456@FUSE.NET... > If it was me I would use the low beam circuit to trigger the relay > automatically but the I have the tools, etc. to do the install. > > Powering the switch and running the relay wire through the firewall are > going to be her hardest part. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:4526d902$0$28973$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > > If she pays an experienced auto electrician to do this, she'll never have > > cause to regret it. If she gets one of those drive in stereo installers > > to > > do it, well that's just about the worst thing you could ever do. If you > > don't have a plug in harness, then you really do need an electrician. > > Just > > my $0.02. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2885$4526d7d8$422afc51$7254@FUSE.NET... > >> Is there power to the switch (just for triggering the relay)? > >> > >> Do you have any wire or a relay or do we need to make a shopping list? > >> > >> What do you have in the way of common hand and power tools, soldering > > iron, > >> etc.? > >> > >> Do the lights have their own ground wire or do they ground through the > >> mount? > >> > >> > >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1160162344.439695.297440@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >> > > >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> Do you need an inside switch or just have them come on automatically > > with > >> >> the low beam headlights (easier install) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1160096850.119325.202080@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> > > >> >> > billy ray wrote: > >> >> >> What wattage bulbs and how many? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Are you going to add any more? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Christine" <orcaxing2006@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1160079014.950419.179180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> >> >> You mention you have the lamps and a switch, do you have the > > relays > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> wiring also? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I don't have any of the wiring or relays because i wasn't sure of > >> >> >> > what > >> >> >> > gauge wire and what type of relays i would need. Thank you all > > for > >> >> >> > your help so far. > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I have 2 55 Watt lamps and they are all I am going to mount and > >> >> > wire. > >> >> > > >> > > >> > I already have an inside switch and it is already mounted, but does not > >> > have the wiring harness it needs to be plugged into it. It is just > >> > sitting in one of the slots not powered or even plugged in. > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit. These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals. I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other tagged to the dash ground. Here is a link that explains relays: http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm I have mine wired independently like the last drawing. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Christine wrote: > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other > fog lamps. |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit. These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals. I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other tagged to the dash ground. Here is a link that explains relays: http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm I have mine wired independently like the last drawing. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Christine wrote: > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other > fog lamps. |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights?
There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit. These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals. I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other tagged to the dash ground. Here is a link that explains relays: http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm I have mine wired independently like the last drawing. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Christine wrote: > > I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog > lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and > what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics > in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps > that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like > the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other > fog lamps. |
Re: Hella 500 Fog Lamps
I prefer this wiring plan.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/foglite.jpg "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:4527B4AA.F2B2D888@sympatico.ca... > Are they 'fog' lamps or 'driving' lights? > > There are places where fog lights have to be tagged to the low beam > circuit by law and 'driving' lights need to be on the high beam circuit. > > These are two distinct types of lights. One is for fog and is totally > useless otherwise, the other is for night driving to supplement the > highbeams or as ditch lights to spot light animals. > > I have the Hella Black Magics which are spot lights that can light up > ditches 'way' up the road or turn a trail into daylight. I power them > with a micro switch on my dash using the ground wire for the trigger so > I only need one thin wire running through the firewall with the other > tagged to the dash ground. > > Here is a link that explains relays: > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > I have mine wired independently like the last drawing. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Christine wrote: >> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and i already have the Hella 500 fog >> lamps and a switch. I need to know how to wire them to the switch and >> what i would need to do that and to protect the rest of the elctronics >> in the jeep. I also already have another set of aftermarket fog lamps >> that are wired to the rightmost switch in the dash, but i would like >> the Hellas wired to the middle switch but still operate like the other >> fog lamps. |
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