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Heat shield necessary?
Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have
the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield isn't critical. Thanks! Eric 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In California you will be charged with that forest fire. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In California you will be charged with that forest fire. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In California you will be charged with that forest fire. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In California you will be charged with that forest fire. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
It is fine if you stay on the road.
My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire danger. Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
It is fine if you stay on the road.
My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire danger. Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
It is fine if you stay on the road.
My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire danger. Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
It is fine if you stay on the road.
My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire danger. Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Eric wrote: > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > isn't critical. > > Thanks! > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > danger. > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > danger. > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > danger. > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > danger. > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
LOL!
Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods as starter. I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from them. Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > danger. > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
LOL!
Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods as starter. I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from them. Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > danger. > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
LOL!
Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods as starter. I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from them. Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > danger. > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
LOL!
Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods as starter. I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from them. Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > danger. > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Yes, I remember watching Hopalong Cassidy on television, and how he
would remove the bullet from a shell and plug it with cotton and fire it into a log and start a fire: http://216.247.24.237/_borders/Hoppy_Pic_2.jpg -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > LOL! > > Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or > shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods > as starter. > > I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She > was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces > survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from > them. > > Mike > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > > danger. > > > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Yes, I remember watching Hopalong Cassidy on television, and how he
would remove the bullet from a shell and plug it with cotton and fire it into a log and start a fire: http://216.247.24.237/_borders/Hoppy_Pic_2.jpg -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > LOL! > > Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or > shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods > as starter. > > I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She > was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces > survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from > them. > > Mike > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > > danger. > > > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Yes, I remember watching Hopalong Cassidy on television, and how he
would remove the bullet from a shell and plug it with cotton and fire it into a log and start a fire: http://216.247.24.237/_borders/Hoppy_Pic_2.jpg -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > LOL! > > Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or > shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods > as starter. > > I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She > was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces > survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from > them. > > Mike > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > > danger. > > > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Yes, I remember watching Hopalong Cassidy on television, and how he
would remove the bullet from a shell and plug it with cotton and fire it into a log and start a fire: http://216.247.24.237/_borders/Hoppy_Pic_2.jpg -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > LOL! > > Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or > shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods > as starter. > > I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She > was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces > survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from > them. > > Mike > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > > > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas? > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > > > It is fine if you stay on the road. > > > > > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire > > > danger. > > > > > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near it. Crude drawing: _______ __/---------\__ Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) Eric 99 TJ SE "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@cox.net... > If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away > from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, > that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In > California you will be charged with that forest fire. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Eric wrote: > > > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > > isn't critical. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Eric > > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near it. Crude drawing: _______ __/---------\__ Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) Eric 99 TJ SE "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@cox.net... > If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away > from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, > that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In > California you will be charged with that forest fire. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Eric wrote: > > > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > > isn't critical. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Eric > > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near it. Crude drawing: _______ __/---------\__ Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) Eric 99 TJ SE "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@cox.net... > If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away > from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, > that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In > California you will be charged with that forest fire. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Eric wrote: > > > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > > isn't critical. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Eric > > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near it. Crude drawing: _______ __/---------\__ Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) Eric 99 TJ SE "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@cox.net... > If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away > from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees, > that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In > California you will be charged with that forest fire. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Eric wrote: > > > > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still have > > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one attached > > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out > > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield > > isn't critical. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Eric > > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > it. > Crude drawing: > _______ > __/---------\__ > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the muffler ever should. Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock muffler did. .shrug. dunno. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > it. > Crude drawing: > _______ > __/---------\__ > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the muffler ever should. Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock muffler did. .shrug. dunno. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > it. > Crude drawing: > _______ > __/---------\__ > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the muffler ever should. Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock muffler did. .shrug. dunno. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > it. > Crude drawing: > _______ > __/---------\__ > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the muffler ever should. Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock muffler did. .shrug. dunno. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat
shields... The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the dealer for FREE. :-) Eric 99 TJ SE "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EUauc.2768$W01.339@okepread01... > Eric did pass the time by typing: > > I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > > it. > > Crude drawing: > > _______ > > __/---------\__ > > > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) > > It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close > things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if > you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. > > Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the > muffler ever should. > > Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock > muffler did. .shrug. dunno. > > -- > DougW > > |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat
shields... The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the dealer for FREE. :-) Eric 99 TJ SE "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EUauc.2768$W01.339@okepread01... > Eric did pass the time by typing: > > I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > > it. > > Crude drawing: > > _______ > > __/---------\__ > > > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) > > It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close > things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if > you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. > > Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the > muffler ever should. > > Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock > muffler did. .shrug. dunno. > > -- > DougW > > |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat
shields... The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the dealer for FREE. :-) Eric 99 TJ SE "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EUauc.2768$W01.339@okepread01... > Eric did pass the time by typing: > > I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > > it. > > Crude drawing: > > _______ > > __/---------\__ > > > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) > > It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close > things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if > you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. > > Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the > muffler ever should. > > Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock > muffler did. .shrug. dunno. > > -- > DougW > > |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat
shields... The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the dealer for FREE. :-) Eric 99 TJ SE "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EUauc.2768$W01.339@okepread01... > Eric did pass the time by typing: > > I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're > > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along > > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were > > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something > > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the > > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention > > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near > > it. > > Crude drawing: > > _______ > > __/---------\__ > > > > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of > > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat > > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the > > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the > > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-) > > It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close > things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if > you have been in traffic for a loooooong time. > > Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the > muffler ever should. > > Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock > muffler did. .shrug. dunno. > > -- > DougW > > |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know
exact the worth of those muffler shields are: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat > shields... > > The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the > dealer for FREE. :-) > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know
exact the worth of those muffler shields are: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat > shields... > > The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the > dealer for FREE. :-) > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know
exact the worth of those muffler shields are: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat > shields... > > The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the > dealer for FREE. :-) > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know
exact the worth of those muffler shields are: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Eric wrote: > > That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat > shields... > > The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the > dealer for FREE. :-) > > Eric > 99 TJ SE |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know > exact the worth of those muffler shields are: > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 And the value of a good pair of jeans cause you only do that _once_ wearing shorts. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know > exact the worth of those muffler shields are: > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 And the value of a good pair of jeans cause you only do that _once_ wearing shorts. -- DougW |
Re: Heat shield necessary?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> All you have to do step out of this Vette once and you'll know > exact the worth of those muffler shields are: > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/578942 And the value of a good pair of jeans cause you only do that _once_ wearing shorts. -- DougW |
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