Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.

I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.

Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.

Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
stuff.

And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html

Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.

So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

JD Adams wrote:
>
> >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
>
> I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
>
> I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
>
> Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> of the place.
>
> -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
have their place.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
>
> I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
>
> Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
>
> Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> stuff.
>
> And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
>
> Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
>
> So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> JD Adams wrote:
> >
> > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> >
> > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> >
> > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> >
> > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > of the place.
> >
> > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
have their place.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
>
> I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
>
> Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
>
> Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> stuff.
>
> And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
>
> Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
>
> So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> JD Adams wrote:
> >
> > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> >
> > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> >
> > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> >
> > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > of the place.
> >
> > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
have their place.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
>
> I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
>
> Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
>
> Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> stuff.
>
> And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
>
> Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
>
> So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> JD Adams wrote:
> >
> > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> >
> > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> >
> > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> >
> > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > of the place.
> >
> > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
have their place.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
>
> I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
>
> Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
>
> Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> stuff.
>
> And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
>
> Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
>
> So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> JD Adams wrote:
> >
> > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> >
> > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> >
> > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> >
> > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > of the place.
> >
> > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> have their place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> >
> > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> >
> > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> >
> > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > stuff.
> >
> > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> >
> > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> >
> > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > JD Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > >
> > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > >
> > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > >
> > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > of the place.
> > >
> > > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> have their place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> >
> > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> >
> > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> >
> > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > stuff.
> >
> > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> >
> > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> >
> > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > JD Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > >
> > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > >
> > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > >
> > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > of the place.
> > >
> > > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> have their place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> >
> > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> >
> > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> >
> > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > stuff.
> >
> > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> >
> > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> >
> > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > JD Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > >
> > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > >
> > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > >
> > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > of the place.
> > >
> > > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> have their place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> >
> > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> >
> > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> >
> > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > stuff.
> >
> > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> >
> > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> >
> > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > JD Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > >
> > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > >
> > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > >
> > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > of the place.
> > >
> > > -JD

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

That, and tractors. I can testify that you have to raise the tractor
axle a long way to get that big sucker of a tire clear of the furrow
it's in to change it. Then you can do it again because you forgot to
break those huge lug nuts loose befroe you raised it he first time...

n Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:00:12 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
> building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
> under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
> will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> > have their place.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> > >
> > > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> > >
> > > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> > >
> > > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> > >
> > > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> > >
> > > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > JD Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > > >
> > > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > > >
> > > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > > of the place.
> > > >
> > > > -JD


--
Will Honea

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

That, and tractors. I can testify that you have to raise the tractor
axle a long way to get that big sucker of a tire clear of the furrow
it's in to change it. Then you can do it again because you forgot to
break those huge lug nuts loose befroe you raised it he first time...

n Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:00:12 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
> building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
> under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
> will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> > have their place.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> > >
> > > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> > >
> > > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> > >
> > > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> > >
> > > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> > >
> > > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > JD Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > > >
> > > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > > >
> > > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > > of the place.
> > > >
> > > > -JD


--
Will Honea

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

That, and tractors. I can testify that you have to raise the tractor
axle a long way to get that big sucker of a tire clear of the furrow
it's in to change it. Then you can do it again because you forgot to
break those huge lug nuts loose befroe you raised it he first time...

n Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:00:12 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
> building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
> under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
> will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> > have their place.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> > >
> > > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> > >
> > > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> > >
> > > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> > >
> > > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> > >
> > > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > JD Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > > >
> > > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > > >
> > > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > > of the place.
> > > >
> > > > -JD


--
Will Honea

Re: Heading to Tahoe for 1st time - advice?
 

That, and tractors. I can testify that you have to raise the tractor
axle a long way to get that big sucker of a tire clear of the furrow
it's in to change it. Then you can do it again because you forgot to
break those huge lug nuts loose befroe you raised it he first time...

n Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:00:12 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> They work great as the farm tool they are. I have used them to raise a
> building to put new footings under and to raise one to get a lowboy
> under to move it and to pull posts out of the ground. I also hear they
> will raise a boxcar so you can slip new wheels under it.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I used one to pick up and level a shed once. Like everything else, they
> > have their place.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44184F4F.6B8AA99F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Just my opinion, but a high lift jack, better known as a 'widow maker'
> > > has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is best left on the farm
> > > where it isn't as likely to kill or maim someone.
> > >
> > > I carry and recommend a small hydraulic floor jack. These can be had in
> > > the $20.00 range and in my case it fits perfectly behind the passenger
> > > seat on top of my X wrench for tire lugs. They hold in place tight.
> > >
> > > Reality says if you have a flat tire, you only need to jack up the axle
> > > the height of the sidewall or 6-8" to change the tire. You 'don't need
> > > to be jacked 4' up in the freakin air hanging on the end of a metal
> > > stick. That is one benefit of having a solid axle, you only need to
> > > jack it an inch or so up to take off a tire.
> > >
> > > Same for sticking logs or rocks under a wheel that has dug a hole. Why
> > > jack 4' in the air while praying the damn thing doesn't tip over, when
> > > the floor jack under the axle can whip it up a foot fast to have room to
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > And then the poor farmboy figured out that he can also use the sucker as
> > > a 3' winch rather than spend money for a cable pull or 'come-a-long'.
> > > Come-a-longs aren't expensive either.
> > > http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html
> > >
> > > Remember the old style bumper jacks? You don't see them sold or used at
> > > all on modern equipment. They were just plain too dangerous.
> > >
> > > So for the price of a 'real' floor jack and a hand winch vs a high lift
> > > or jack all, you can be safe and have the 'correct' tool for the job.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > JD Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Have you checked into getting a hi-lift jack?
> > > >
> > > > I've been looking at those, Carl. They beat the little OEM bottle jack
> > > > under the seat hands-down. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight carries them.
> > > > I also found my big-ol' 4-guage jumper cables, and I'll take those as
> > > > well. They're way too big to fit in a toolbox, but have come in handy
> > > > before. They're big enough to directly fire up a Semi.
> > > >
> > > > I might even find room left over for a suitcase and guitar. :)
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah Kate, the buffet's are always a draw for me. I don't gamble,
> > > > but the eatin's always good up there. They usually have to roll me out
> > > > of the place.
> > > >
> > > > -JD


--
Will Honea