c

One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the rings
are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very high
mileage engine.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
head.
> To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00. So
> that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
>
> The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage engine.
> If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or rebuilt
> engine in.
>
> I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
>
> bill
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
and
> > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
back
> > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > service manual.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
for
> > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it and
> the
> > > block for cracks.
> > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
"while
> > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The effort
> > level
> > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket is
> > about
> > > the same LOL.
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
leak
> > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
manifold.
> > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It looks
> > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does not
> > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head gasket?
> > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > :
> > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted to
> > > : look,
> > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > : Thanks, Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

c

One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the rings
are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very high
mileage engine.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
head.
> To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00. So
> that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
>
> The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage engine.
> If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or rebuilt
> engine in.
>
> I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
>
> bill
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
and
> > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
back
> > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > service manual.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
for
> > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it and
> the
> > > block for cracks.
> > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
"while
> > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The effort
> > level
> > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket is
> > about
> > > the same LOL.
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
leak
> > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
manifold.
> > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It looks
> > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does not
> > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head gasket?
> > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > :
> > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted to
> > > : look,
> > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > : Thanks, Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

c

One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the rings
are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very high
mileage engine.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
head.
> To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00. So
> that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
>
> The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage engine.
> If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or rebuilt
> engine in.
>
> I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
>
> bill
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
and
> > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
back
> > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > service manual.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
for
> > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it and
> the
> > > block for cracks.
> > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
"while
> > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The effort
> > level
> > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket is
> > about
> > > the same LOL.
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
leak
> > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
manifold.
> > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It looks
> > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does not
> > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head gasket?
> > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > :
> > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted to
> > > : look,
> > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > : Thanks, Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin in San Diego

If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
KH

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:JZokb.49730$pg7.8579@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the
rings
> are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
> increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very
high
> mileage engine.
>
> Chris
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
> head.
> > To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> > plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00.
So
> > that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
> >
> > The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage
engine.
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or
rebuilt
> > engine in.
> >
> > I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> > remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
> and
> > > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
> back
> > > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > > service manual.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
> for
> > > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it
and
> > the
> > > > block for cracks.
> > > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
> "while
> > > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The
effort
> > > level
> > > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket
is
> > > about
> > > > the same LOL.
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
> leak
> > > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
> manifold.
> > > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It
looks
> > > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does
not
> > > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head
gasket?
> > > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > > :
> > > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted
to
> > > > : look,
> > > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > > : Thanks, Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin in San Diego

If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
KH

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:JZokb.49730$pg7.8579@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the
rings
> are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
> increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very
high
> mileage engine.
>
> Chris
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
> head.
> > To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> > plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00.
So
> > that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
> >
> > The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage
engine.
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or
rebuilt
> > engine in.
> >
> > I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> > remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
> and
> > > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
> back
> > > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > > service manual.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
> for
> > > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it
and
> > the
> > > > block for cracks.
> > > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
> "while
> > > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The
effort
> > > level
> > > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket
is
> > > about
> > > > the same LOL.
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
> leak
> > > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
> manifold.
> > > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It
looks
> > > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does
not
> > > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head
gasket?
> > > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > > :
> > > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted
to
> > > > : look,
> > > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > > : Thanks, Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kevin in San Diego

If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
KH

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:JZokb.49730$pg7.8579@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> One other thing to remember is that if you freshen the valves and the
rings
> are marginal, you're not going to like the results. It's common to see
> increased blowby and oil consumption after doing a valve job on a very
high
> mileage engine.
>
> Chris
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bmt5pr$qjvfh$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L
> head.
> > To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> > plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00.
So
> > that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
> >
> > The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage
engine.
> > If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or
rebuilt
> > engine in.
> >
> > I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> > remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head
> and
> > > cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all
> back
> > > together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
> > > service manual.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > > > Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
> > > > discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY
> for
> > > > about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it
and
> > the
> > > > block for cracks.
> > > > With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra
> "while
> > > > you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The
effort
> > > level
> > > > of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket
is
> > > about
> > > > the same LOL.
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.google.c om...
> > > > : I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant
> leak
> > > > : that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust
> manifold.
> > > > : I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
> > > > : exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It
looks
> > > > : like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does
not
> > > > : seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head
gasket?
> > > > : 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
> > > > :
> > > > : Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted
to
> > > > : look,
> > > > : but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
> > > > : Thanks, Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The cam you will undoubtedly buy with the stroker will never pass
smog. Young people like you usually use two engines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
> KH

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The cam you will undoubtedly buy with the stroker will never pass
smog. Young people like you usually use two engines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
> KH

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The cam you will undoubtedly buy with the stroker will never pass
smog. Young people like you usually use two engines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> If I dont pass CA smog by this december Im having mine stroked.
> KH

Roy

I had the same work done on my 4.2 a year ago, included 2 new
valves, valve spring shims, the gasket set, new seals, and
surface grind the head for about $175 at my favorite local shop.
(Upper midwest)

William Oliveri wrote:

> Just as a point of reference. I just priced out a valve job on a 4.0L head.
> To Deck the head, a 3 angle valve job, narrow the guides, replace freeze
> plugs was 260.00 + tax. In addition the gasket kit is another 80.00. So
> that's 340.00 w/o labor if you plan to have someone do it.
>
> The question is do you want to invest more money in a high mileage engine.
> If you plan to keep the vehicle it might be better to put a new or rebuilt
> engine in.
>
> I remember a place around me who advertise replacing an engine with a
> remanufactured one for a little over 1000.00. Engine, Labor and all.
>
> bill
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bmt4q4$qlr4p$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>>If you elect to change the head gasket, I recommend checking the head and
>>cylinder deck with a straightedge and feeler gauge before putting all back
>>together. You can probably find the acceptable warp factor in a good
>>service manual.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
>>news:L2okb.392589$Lnr1.193377@news01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
>>
>>>Probably just the gasket if it's running fine... check your oil for
>>>discoloration and excessive capacity. If it's just the gasket...DIY for
>>>about $40... shop probably $300+. When the head is off, inspect it and
>
> the
>
>>>block for cracks.
>>>With that much mileage you may be better off doing a little extra "while
>>>you're at it" or consider dropping in a low mileage engine. The effort
>>
>>level
>>
>>>of dropping in a complete running engine and changing a head gasket is
>>
>>about
>>
>>>the same LOL.
>>>-Brian
>>>
>>>"Tom Ryan" <tommy_google@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:baa0a3f1.0310181915.11f70361@posting.googl e.com...
>>>: I have a 1990 XJ w/the 4.0; 192K miles and have noticed a coolant leak
>>>: that appears to be coming from somewhere behind the exhaust manifold.
>>>: I can see several "freeze plugs"(machining plugs,etc.) below the
>>>: exhaust manifold but the leak is coming from above these. It looks
>>>: like kind of a "pissing" stream with the engine on. Engine does not
>>>: seem to have lost any power or running any differently. Head gasket?
>>>: 'freeze plug' I can't see? something else?
>>>:
>>>: Any thoughts? & How much to fix at a shop.?? I might be tempted to
>>>: look,
>>>: but not with winter rapidly approaching in Chicago...
>>>: Thanks, Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>