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Eartlink 06-25-2007 05:10 AM

HAM antenna
 
Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
wranglers...

Thank you.


Kevin in Iowa 06-25-2007 05:56 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.


It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
this info.


Kevin in Iowa 06-25-2007 05:56 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.


It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
this info.


Kevin in Iowa 06-25-2007 05:56 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.


It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
this info.


Kevin in Iowa 06-25-2007 05:56 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.


It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
this info.


DougW 06-25-2007 06:33 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.


I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)

--
DougW



DougW 06-25-2007 06:33 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.


I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)

--
DougW



DougW 06-25-2007 06:33 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.


I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)

--
DougW



DougW 06-25-2007 06:33 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.


I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)

--
DougW



Scott in Baltimore 06-25-2007 07:57 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.
>


I've put 2 meter / 440 antennas through the flat fender next to the hood
and my 10/11 and 6 meter antennas are on the back bumper. The endcaps
have been removed for a decade now!

I highly unrecommend magnet mounts for any frequency.

-Scott

'97 TJ SE

Scott in Baltimore 06-25-2007 07:57 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.
>


I've put 2 meter / 440 antennas through the flat fender next to the hood
and my 10/11 and 6 meter antennas are on the back bumper. The endcaps
have been removed for a decade now!

I highly unrecommend magnet mounts for any frequency.

-Scott

'97 TJ SE

Scott in Baltimore 06-25-2007 07:57 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.
>


I've put 2 meter / 440 antennas through the flat fender next to the hood
and my 10/11 and 6 meter antennas are on the back bumper. The endcaps
have been removed for a decade now!

I highly unrecommend magnet mounts for any frequency.

-Scott

'97 TJ SE

Scott in Baltimore 06-25-2007 07:57 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Kevin in Iowa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.

>
> It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
> 2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
> out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
> this info.
>


I've put 2 meter / 440 antennas through the flat fender next to the hood
and my 10/11 and 6 meter antennas are on the back bumper. The endcaps
have been removed for a decade now!

I highly unrecommend magnet mounts for any frequency.

-Scott

'97 TJ SE

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-25-2007 08:53 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-25-2007 08:53 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-25-2007 08:53 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-25-2007 08:53 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
> wranglers...
>
> Thank you.
>




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SnoMan 06-26-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
with cars that actually advise against it.


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:53:10 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
>advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
>http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>

-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-26-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
with cars that actually advise against it.


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:53:10 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
>advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
>http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>

-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-26-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
with cars that actually advise against it.


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:53:10 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
>advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
>http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>

-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-26-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
with cars that actually advise against it.


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:53:10 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Like a radio telephone keep it away from your computer, like in this GM
>advisory: http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html and Citizen Band:
>http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"Eartlink" <DickTracyInc@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:lELfi.788$zA4.754@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>> wranglers...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>

-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Lon 06-26-2007 09:45 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
DougW proclaimed:

> Kevin in Iowa wrote:
>
>>On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>>>wranglers...
>>>
>>>Thank you.

>>
>>It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
>>2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
>>out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
>>this info.

>
>
> I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
> good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)
>

As it gets a bit rancid, doesn't it also become spam?

Lon 06-26-2007 09:45 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
DougW proclaimed:

> Kevin in Iowa wrote:
>
>>On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>>>wranglers...
>>>
>>>Thank you.

>>
>>It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
>>2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
>>out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
>>this info.

>
>
> I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
> good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)
>

As it gets a bit rancid, doesn't it also become spam?

Lon 06-26-2007 09:45 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
DougW proclaimed:

> Kevin in Iowa wrote:
>
>>On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>>>wranglers...
>>>
>>>Thank you.

>>
>>It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
>>2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
>>out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
>>this info.

>
>
> I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
> good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)
>

As it gets a bit rancid, doesn't it also become spam?

Lon 06-26-2007 09:45 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
DougW proclaimed:

> Kevin in Iowa wrote:
>
>>On Jun 25, 4:10 am, "Eartlink" <DickTracy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Need some ideas or a write up on the installation of antennas on 2001
>>>wranglers...
>>>
>>>Thank you.

>>
>>It all depends on what kind of antenna you are going to use, it is for
>>2m/440 or for HF use. A few in the group have made mounts that extend
>>out from under the hood, Jerry B. or Jenn would be a good resource for
>>this info.

>
>
> I think you would want one made out of metal. Ham isn't a very
> good RF radiator. Lots of attenuation and the dogs chew on them. ;)
>

As it gets a bit rancid, doesn't it also become spam?

James 06-27-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?


James



James 06-27-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?


James



James 06-27-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?


James



James 06-27-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?


James



Scott in Baltimore 06-27-2007 08:11 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
inverters in them that create mucho hash.

Scott in Baltimore 06-27-2007 08:11 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
inverters in them that create mucho hash.

Scott in Baltimore 06-27-2007 08:11 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
inverters in them that create mucho hash.

Scott in Baltimore 06-27-2007 08:11 PM

Re: HAM antenna
 
> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
inverters in them that create mucho hash.

SnoMan 06-27-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:11:29 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

>
>You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
>offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
>inverters in them that create mucho hash.



Yes you are right, there is a lot of hash and RF going down them back
into car. ALso, yes I am refering to the 12 volt power feed.
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SnoMan 06-27-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:11:29 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

>
>You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
>offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
>inverters in them that create mucho hash.



Yes you are right, there is a lot of hash and RF going down them back
into car. ALso, yes I am refering to the 12 volt power feed.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-27-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:11:29 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

>
>You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
>offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
>inverters in them that create mucho hash.



Yes you are right, there is a lot of hash and RF going down them back
into car. ALso, yes I am refering to the 12 volt power feed.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-27-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Re: HAM antenna
 
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:11:29 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> By "power leg" , do you mean the 12 volt wire for power ?

>
>You'd be amazed how much RF travels down the power line. The worst
>offenders are amplifiers. And high-power audio amps have DC-DC
>inverters in them that create mucho hash.



Yes you are right, there is a lot of hash and RF going down them back
into car. ALso, yes I am refering to the 12 volt power feed.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

twaldron 06-28-2007 08:52 AM

Re: HAM antenna
 
You should always tap 2-way radio power DIRECTLY from the battery
terminals. Make these leads fused.

tw

SnoMan wrote:
> The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
> threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
> potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
> into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
> way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
> transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
> vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
> with cars that actually advise against it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



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twaldron 06-28-2007 08:52 AM

Re: HAM antenna
 
You should always tap 2-way radio power DIRECTLY from the battery
terminals. Make these leads fused.

tw

SnoMan wrote:
> The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
> threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
> potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
> into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
> way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
> transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
> vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
> with cars that actually advise against it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



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twaldron 06-28-2007 08:52 AM

Re: HAM antenna
 
You should always tap 2-way radio power DIRECTLY from the battery
terminals. Make these leads fused.

tw

SnoMan wrote:
> The "problem" with this info is it does not cover one of the bigger
> threats to car electronics or how to deal with it. One of the biggest
> potentail problems is a RF feedback through power leg of transceiver
> into cars electrical system. None of those tips deal with that. The
> way to combat that is to install a filter choke in power legs of
> transceiver to block it. I have done this for many years in many
> vehcle with Ham radio equipment and I have never had a problem even
> with cars that actually advise against it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



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