Mike Romain

eric@rr.com wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:02:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> eric@rr.com wrote:
>>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>>> have a defective hub assy?
>>>
>>> Thnks,
>>> Eric in NNY
>> I would cut the wheels hard to the side and then hand spin the wheel
>> while feeling the u-joint...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Did that...makes the same noise if the wheels are cut too the left,
> right...or jacked up and straight.

"What" is making the same noise?

If you hold your hand on the u-joint and 'feel' it while slowly moving
the wheel when cut to the side, you should be able to 'feel' the clicks.

Are there any rust stains near the u-joint caps?

Are the u-joints greasable (either a zerk on the X or little plugs on
the ends of the caps) and have they been greased?

Mike

Mike Romain

eric@rr.com wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:02:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> eric@rr.com wrote:
>>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>>> have a defective hub assy?
>>>
>>> Thnks,
>>> Eric in NNY
>> I would cut the wheels hard to the side and then hand spin the wheel
>> while feeling the u-joint...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Did that...makes the same noise if the wheels are cut too the left,
> right...or jacked up and straight.

"What" is making the same noise?

If you hold your hand on the u-joint and 'feel' it while slowly moving
the wheel when cut to the side, you should be able to 'feel' the clicks.

Are there any rust stains near the u-joint caps?

Are the u-joints greasable (either a zerk on the X or little plugs on
the ends of the caps) and have they been greased?

Mike

Mike Romain

eric@rr.com wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:02:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> eric@rr.com wrote:
>>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>>> have a defective hub assy?
>>>
>>> Thnks,
>>> Eric in NNY
>> I would cut the wheels hard to the side and then hand spin the wheel
>> while feeling the u-joint...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Did that...makes the same noise if the wheels are cut too the left,
> right...or jacked up and straight.

"What" is making the same noise?

If you hold your hand on the u-joint and 'feel' it while slowly moving
the wheel when cut to the side, you should be able to 'feel' the clicks.

Are there any rust stains near the u-joint caps?

Are the u-joints greasable (either a zerk on the X or little plugs on
the ends of the caps) and have they been greased?

Mike

RoyJ

First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
that both left and right.

If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.

eric@rr.com wrote:
> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>
> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
> have a defective hub assy?
>
> Thnks,
> Eric in NNY

RoyJ

First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
that both left and right.

If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.

eric@rr.com wrote:
> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>
> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
> have a defective hub assy?
>
> Thnks,
> Eric in NNY

RoyJ

First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
that both left and right.

If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.

eric@rr.com wrote:
> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>
> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
> have a defective hub assy?
>
> Thnks,
> Eric in NNY

RoyJ

First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
that both left and right.

If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.

eric@rr.com wrote:
> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>
> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
> have a defective hub assy?
>
> Thnks,
> Eric in NNY

eric@rr.com

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:09:04 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
>trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
>it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
>see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
>that both left and right.
>
>If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
>less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.
>
>eric@rr.com wrote:
>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>> have a defective hub assy?
>>
>> Thnks,
>> Eric in NNY

Thanks all for the replies. The "knuckles" were replaced 4 years ago,
but with the jeep being in 4WD 6 months out of the year, it's quite
possible that they have run their course. I did see what looks to
be like rust dust, but will have to pull the axle out to get a better
look. If it needs a new part, might as well do it now before winter
set's in! :)

V/R,
Eric in NNY

eric@rr.com

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:09:04 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
>trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
>it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
>see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
>that both left and right.
>
>If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
>less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.
>
>eric@rr.com wrote:
>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>> have a defective hub assy?
>>
>> Thnks,
>> Eric in NNY

Thanks all for the replies. The "knuckles" were replaced 4 years ago,
but with the jeep being in 4WD 6 months out of the year, it's quite
possible that they have run their course. I did see what looks to
be like rust dust, but will have to pull the axle out to get a better
look. If it needs a new part, might as well do it now before winter
set's in! :)

V/R,
Eric in NNY

eric@rr.com

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:09:04 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>First thing I'd look at is the steering knuckle U-joint. Look for a
>trace of rust around the rim of the rubber seal on the joint cups. Jack
>it up, put transfer case in 4wd, try turning the wheel back and forth
>see if you get ANY play in the joint. Mike mentioned cutting it hard, do
>that both left and right.
>
>If you recently replaced the hub, replacing the U-joint should take
>less than an hour. On a 10 year old vehicle, you are about due.
>
>eric@rr.com wrote:
>> 97XJ Sport w/Dana 30 front axle. Noticed a few days ago an unusual
>> noise during slow speed tight turns. Parked the Jeep and used the
>> daughters car to finish up last week of work. Now that I'm on
>> vacation, I jacked up the jeep yesterday, and it sounded like the
>> brake pads ( the vehicle was inspected a couple of months back, and
>> they passed it with a note that the pads would need to be replaced
>> soon). So, wife drives into the city and picks up new pads on her way
>> home from work. I replace them, and I'm still getting the noise on the
>> passenger side when I spin the tire. Does it with the vehicle lifted
>> and when the tires are straight. This same noise was also made when
>> the vehicle was on the ground/stationary, and turning the steering. I
>> replaced the hub assy last fall. I looked at the u-joint, and didn't
>> notice any play...but, I know looks can be deceiving.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Am I looking at replacing the u-joint, or do I
>> have a defective hub assy?
>>
>> Thnks,
>> Eric in NNY

Thanks all for the replies. The "knuckles" were replaced 4 years ago,
but with the jeep being in 4WD 6 months out of the year, it's quite
possible that they have run their course. I did see what looks to
be like rust dust, but will have to pull the axle out to get a better
look. If it needs a new part, might as well do it now before winter
set's in! :)

V/R,
Eric in NNY