Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:22:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks very much. This makes sense, and I will do the check on a cold
>>> engine. It may be time for a complete belt replacement anyway, and
>>> this sounds like the problem, with it getting worse on a hot engine.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>>
>> One can always hope for the cheap fix anyway. Good luck.
>
>
> Genrally though when belt slips there is a squeal with it.


That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
for the above quick test, they don't make noise....

We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
serpentine ones can get polished up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:22:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks very much. This makes sense, and I will do the check on a cold
>>> engine. It may be time for a complete belt replacement anyway, and
>>> this sounds like the problem, with it getting worse on a hot engine.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>>
>> One can always hope for the cheap fix anyway. Good luck.
>
>
> Genrally though when belt slips there is a squeal with it.


That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
for the above quick test, they don't make noise....

We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
serpentine ones can get polished up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:22:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks very much. This makes sense, and I will do the check on a cold
>>> engine. It may be time for a complete belt replacement anyway, and
>>> this sounds like the problem, with it getting worse on a hot engine.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>>
>> One can always hope for the cheap fix anyway. Good luck.
>
>
> Genrally though when belt slips there is a squeal with it.


That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
for the above quick test, they don't make noise....

We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
serpentine ones can get polished up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting
> muddy regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year.
> Even the serpentine ones can get polished up.

For a cheap and easy test, try belt dressing. If it fixes it you know
the problem and the belt dressing fix will probably last a couple of
weeks or so....




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Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting
> muddy regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year.
> Even the serpentine ones can get polished up.

For a cheap and easy test, try belt dressing. If it fixes it you know
the problem and the belt dressing fix will probably last a couple of
weeks or so....




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Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting
> muddy regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year.
> Even the serpentine ones can get polished up.

For a cheap and easy test, try belt dressing. If it fixes it you know
the problem and the belt dressing fix will probably last a couple of
weeks or so....




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Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting
> muddy regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year.
> Even the serpentine ones can get polished up.

For a cheap and easy test, try belt dressing. If it fixes it you know
the problem and the belt dressing fix will probably last a couple of
weeks or so....




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Re: Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:21:30 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
>for the above quick test, they don't make noise....
>
>We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
>regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
>serpentine ones can get polished up.


I have had a simular problem with My 79 J20 in years past and when it
did it the belt "talked" Now it does it some because steering box is
worn out (or leaking internally) as pumpis still good. Just another
thing on the list of things to do when I restore it one day. If he had
access to a gauge he could pressure test the pump to see it it is
weak. GM power steering units used on that year Jeep are usuually
pretty reliable but they can wear out.
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Re: Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:21:30 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
>for the above quick test, they don't make noise....
>
>We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
>regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
>serpentine ones can get polished up.


I have had a simular problem with My 79 J20 in years past and when it
did it the belt "talked" Now it does it some because steering box is
worn out (or leaking internally) as pumpis still good. Just another
thing on the list of things to do when I restore it one day. If he had
access to a gauge he could pressure test the pump to see it it is
weak. GM power steering units used on that year Jeep are usuually
pretty reliable but they can wear out.
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Re: Re: Grand Wagoneer Steering
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:21:30 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>That is the sneaky part of a mud or sand polished belt and the reason
>for the above quick test, they don't make noise....
>
>We see this all the time on vehicles that off road. When getting muddy
>regularly we go through 3 or more sets of V belts a year. Even the
>serpentine ones can get polished up.


I have had a simular problem with My 79 J20 in years past and when it
did it the belt "talked" Now it does it some because steering box is
worn out (or leaking internally) as pumpis still good. Just another
thing on the list of things to do when I restore it one day. If he had
access to a gauge he could pressure test the pump to see it it is
weak. GM power steering units used on that year Jeep are usuually
pretty reliable but they can wear out.
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