Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
Thanks ----, I'll try the diagnostic mode for the vic, by looking at the
dipstick it is close to being a 1/2 litre over the full mark, but I'll look again. Snow... "----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message news:u3jp715j65d6d0p919jvvd6599mbl0i3mq@4ax.com... > You still don't know if it is the sensor or the oil level. As I > stated before, filling the oil to the full mark on the dip stick is > still TOO LOW for reliable oil level sensor operation. This only > apples to the early '93's (like mine.) When you get the low oil > message on the VIC, it can be either low oil or a sensor problem. It > doesn't distinguish between them. The easy way to check is to add > 1/2-quart to the engine after it shows full. That's what the factory > wants. Apparently, the oil sensors in the '93 are positioned to the > ragged edge of failure, and there is nothing you can do except add > more oil. This appears to have been corrected in the later 93's. > > Here is what the service manual says about the sensor: > > "The module will test the oil sensor input immediately after ignition > ON. If low oil is detected during the test OR the oil level sensor is > bad, the VIC will display this message. The engine on the vehicle > outline will also be illuminated. Ignition must be OFF for 1 minute > before the oil is checked. If the fault is found, the message will > stay on until the ignition turns OFF. Unless the ignition has been > off for one minute or longer and the oil fault fixed, the fault will > appear again on the next ignition ON." > > There are two TSB's regarding this problem. The first one applies > only to version 03 of the Vehicle Information Center (VIC). The one I > have is No. 08-22-93. If the VIC displays"Oil Sensor Shorted" while > in diagnostics mode, the sensor may actually be open and visa versa. > The diagnostics mode is entered by depressing and holding the select > and set buttons simultaneously, while turning the ignition switch on. > > The second TSB, 09-16-92, is the one describing increasing the oil > capacity to 5.5 quarts and using a newly calibrated dip stick. This > bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to MDH 08-22-XX and equipped > with a 5.2L engine and a vehicle information center. > > ---- > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 09:06:36 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>Yep its oil level sensor, the info centre display says it is... I have >>physically checked the oil and its full.. >> >>Snow... >> >>"----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message >>news:jbho71dsv42iim75t8qn7kvhp04kgr6l8a@4ax.com. .. >>> Are you sure it is the oil level sensor? There was a service bulletin >>> on the '93 V8 for this problem. The original fix was to change the >>> level sensor, but it didn't help. The solution was to change the oil >>> level to 5-1/2 qts instead of 5. They also had a modified dipstick >>> showing the new setting, but you could do it with a file on the old >>> one. The sensor for both the V-8 and I-6 is in the side of the oil >>> pan on the passenger side. >>> >>> On Fri, 6 May 2005 22:12:51 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the >>>>only >>>>fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know >>>>where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . >>>> >>>>Thankies >>>>Snow... >>>> >>> >> > |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
Thanks ----, I'll try the diagnostic mode for the vic, by looking at the
dipstick it is close to being a 1/2 litre over the full mark, but I'll look again. Snow... "----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message news:u3jp715j65d6d0p919jvvd6599mbl0i3mq@4ax.com... > You still don't know if it is the sensor or the oil level. As I > stated before, filling the oil to the full mark on the dip stick is > still TOO LOW for reliable oil level sensor operation. This only > apples to the early '93's (like mine.) When you get the low oil > message on the VIC, it can be either low oil or a sensor problem. It > doesn't distinguish between them. The easy way to check is to add > 1/2-quart to the engine after it shows full. That's what the factory > wants. Apparently, the oil sensors in the '93 are positioned to the > ragged edge of failure, and there is nothing you can do except add > more oil. This appears to have been corrected in the later 93's. > > Here is what the service manual says about the sensor: > > "The module will test the oil sensor input immediately after ignition > ON. If low oil is detected during the test OR the oil level sensor is > bad, the VIC will display this message. The engine on the vehicle > outline will also be illuminated. Ignition must be OFF for 1 minute > before the oil is checked. If the fault is found, the message will > stay on until the ignition turns OFF. Unless the ignition has been > off for one minute or longer and the oil fault fixed, the fault will > appear again on the next ignition ON." > > There are two TSB's regarding this problem. The first one applies > only to version 03 of the Vehicle Information Center (VIC). The one I > have is No. 08-22-93. If the VIC displays"Oil Sensor Shorted" while > in diagnostics mode, the sensor may actually be open and visa versa. > The diagnostics mode is entered by depressing and holding the select > and set buttons simultaneously, while turning the ignition switch on. > > The second TSB, 09-16-92, is the one describing increasing the oil > capacity to 5.5 quarts and using a newly calibrated dip stick. This > bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to MDH 08-22-XX and equipped > with a 5.2L engine and a vehicle information center. > > ---- > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 09:06:36 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>Yep its oil level sensor, the info centre display says it is... I have >>physically checked the oil and its full.. >> >>Snow... >> >>"----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message >>news:jbho71dsv42iim75t8qn7kvhp04kgr6l8a@4ax.com. .. >>> Are you sure it is the oil level sensor? There was a service bulletin >>> on the '93 V8 for this problem. The original fix was to change the >>> level sensor, but it didn't help. The solution was to change the oil >>> level to 5-1/2 qts instead of 5. They also had a modified dipstick >>> showing the new setting, but you could do it with a file on the old >>> one. The sensor for both the V-8 and I-6 is in the side of the oil >>> pan on the passenger side. >>> >>> On Fri, 6 May 2005 22:12:51 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the >>>>only >>>>fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know >>>>where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . >>>> >>>>Thankies >>>>Snow... >>>> >>> >> > |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
Thanks ----, I'll try the diagnostic mode for the vic, by looking at the
dipstick it is close to being a 1/2 litre over the full mark, but I'll look again. Snow... "----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message news:u3jp715j65d6d0p919jvvd6599mbl0i3mq@4ax.com... > You still don't know if it is the sensor or the oil level. As I > stated before, filling the oil to the full mark on the dip stick is > still TOO LOW for reliable oil level sensor operation. This only > apples to the early '93's (like mine.) When you get the low oil > message on the VIC, it can be either low oil or a sensor problem. It > doesn't distinguish between them. The easy way to check is to add > 1/2-quart to the engine after it shows full. That's what the factory > wants. Apparently, the oil sensors in the '93 are positioned to the > ragged edge of failure, and there is nothing you can do except add > more oil. This appears to have been corrected in the later 93's. > > Here is what the service manual says about the sensor: > > "The module will test the oil sensor input immediately after ignition > ON. If low oil is detected during the test OR the oil level sensor is > bad, the VIC will display this message. The engine on the vehicle > outline will also be illuminated. Ignition must be OFF for 1 minute > before the oil is checked. If the fault is found, the message will > stay on until the ignition turns OFF. Unless the ignition has been > off for one minute or longer and the oil fault fixed, the fault will > appear again on the next ignition ON." > > There are two TSB's regarding this problem. The first one applies > only to version 03 of the Vehicle Information Center (VIC). The one I > have is No. 08-22-93. If the VIC displays"Oil Sensor Shorted" while > in diagnostics mode, the sensor may actually be open and visa versa. > The diagnostics mode is entered by depressing and holding the select > and set buttons simultaneously, while turning the ignition switch on. > > The second TSB, 09-16-92, is the one describing increasing the oil > capacity to 5.5 quarts and using a newly calibrated dip stick. This > bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to MDH 08-22-XX and equipped > with a 5.2L engine and a vehicle information center. > > ---- > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 09:06:36 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>Yep its oil level sensor, the info centre display says it is... I have >>physically checked the oil and its full.. >> >>Snow... >> >>"----" <LeadWinger> wrote in message >>news:jbho71dsv42iim75t8qn7kvhp04kgr6l8a@4ax.com. .. >>> Are you sure it is the oil level sensor? There was a service bulletin >>> on the '93 V8 for this problem. The original fix was to change the >>> level sensor, but it didn't help. The solution was to change the oil >>> level to 5-1/2 qts instead of 5. They also had a modified dipstick >>> showing the new setting, but you could do it with a file on the old >>> one. The sensor for both the V-8 and I-6 is in the side of the oil >>> pan on the passenger side. >>> >>> On Fri, 6 May 2005 22:12:51 -0400, "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the >>>>only >>>>fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know >>>>where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . >>>> >>>>Thankies >>>>Snow... >>>> >>> >> > |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
common failure and it's a pain in the ass to get to even with the proper sensor
socket Snow wrote: > Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the only > fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know > where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . > > Thankies > Snow... |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
common failure and it's a pain in the ass to get to even with the proper sensor
socket Snow wrote: > Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the only > fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know > where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . > > Thankies > Snow... |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
common failure and it's a pain in the ass to get to even with the proper sensor
socket Snow wrote: > Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the only > fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know > where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . > > Thankies > Snow... |
Re: Grand Cherokee oil level sending unit???
common failure and it's a pain in the ass to get to even with the proper sensor
socket Snow wrote: > Just added a second jeep to the drive, a 1993 grand (ZJ??), anyways the only > fault it has is that the oil level sending unit is wonkie, anyone know > where I can get info on this thing? wiring diagram? or ??? . > > Thankies > Snow... |
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