Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake assembly
(TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors were
replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have to
pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy product.
However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
not enough money to buy a new car.

Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.

It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better than
the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did it
myself)

I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
Brake shudder

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected the
problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty dollar
cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
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> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
assembly
> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors were
> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have to
> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
product.
> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
> not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
than
> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
it
> myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder
>



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Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected the
problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty dollar
cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
assembly
> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors were
> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have to
> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
product.
> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
> not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
than
> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
it
> myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder
>



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Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected the
problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty dollar
cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
assembly
> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors were
> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have to
> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
product.
> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
> not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
than
> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
it
> myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder
>



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Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
> to buy a new car.
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
> from Stillen.
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
> hours labor (I did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
> with Brake shudder

Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
of pads a few weeks ago.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
> to buy a new car.
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
> from Stillen.
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
> hours labor (I did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
> with Brake shudder

Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
of pads a few weeks ago.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
> to buy a new car.
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
> from Stillen.
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
> hours labor (I did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
> with Brake shudder

Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
of pads a few weeks ago.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:138Ui.21595$XU3.18744@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
>> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
>> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
>> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
>> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
>> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
>> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
>> to buy a new car.
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
>> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
>> from Stillen.
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
>> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
>> hours labor (I did it myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
>> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
>> with Brake shudder
>
> Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
> miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
> of pads a few weeks ago.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:138Ui.21595$XU3.18744@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
>> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
>> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
>> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
>> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
>> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
>> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
>> to buy a new car.
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
>> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
>> from Stillen.
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
>> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
>> hours labor (I did it myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
>> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
>> with Brake shudder
>
> Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
> miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
> of pads a few weeks ago.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:138Ui.21595$XU3.18744@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would
>> fall apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
>> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under
>> warranty). Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer
>> finally told me I would have to pay to have them fixed. I was
>> disgusted with DC, and their crummy product. However, I had to keep
>> driving this thing because I had no other car, and not enough money
>> to buy a new car.
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a
>> prair, I ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted)
>> from Stillen.
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much
>> better than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3
>> hours labor (I did it myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed
>> my problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee
>> with Brake shudder
>
> Ditto. Got mine from Kolak. Expect them to last well over 100,000
> miles, mine are still going strong and I just put on the second pair
> of pads a few weeks ago.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

Thanks, :)

If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.

The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
with some flitz or simlar stuff.

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

Thanks, :)

If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.

The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
with some flitz or simlar stuff.

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.

Thanks, :)

If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.

The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
with some flitz or simlar stuff.

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm resistors
and they worked fine.
Are the resistors necessary?

Thanks


"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:u_8Ui.21601$XU3.1599@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> DougW,
>> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.
>
> Thanks, :)
>
> If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
> to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
> A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.
>
> The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
> with some flitz or simlar stuff.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm resistors
and they worked fine.
Are the resistors necessary?

Thanks


"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:u_8Ui.21601$XU3.1599@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> DougW,
>> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.
>
> Thanks, :)
>
> If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
> to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
> A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.
>
> The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
> with some flitz or simlar stuff.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

DougW,
question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm resistors
and they worked fine.
Are the resistors necessary?

Thanks


"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:u_8Ui.21601$XU3.1599@newsfe15.phx...
> John wrote:
>> DougW,
>> cool website. I like the LED turn signals. I might try that.
>
> Thanks, :)
>
> If you do the signals remember it takes quite a bit of messing around
> to get them right. I never protected mine apart from some rubber tape.
> A more permanant solution would probably be a coating of rtv sealant.
>
> The LEDs do chalk with sun exposure, but the can be cleaned again
> with some flitz or simlar stuff.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

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"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
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> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
> resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm
resistors
> and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?
>
> Thanks

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/page2.asp
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47228aeb$0$16519$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
> resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm
resistors
> and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?
>
> Thanks

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/page2.asp
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47228aeb$0$16519$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200 ohm
> resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K ohm
resistors
> and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?
>
> Thanks

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200
> ohm resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K
> ohm resistors and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?

The resistors are current limiters for the LEDs. Without them the LEDs
would burn very brightly for a second then become a SED
(Smoke Emitting Diode). :)

Actually you can drop using the regulator and just size the resistors
for 14V. But since the voltage is hard to predict I dropped in a regulator.
That means that even if the battery is a bit low, or a bit high, The signals
will always be the same brightness.

The cheaper LEDs you see for cars either have a regulator in them or
more commonly a limiting resistor.

When shopping for LEDs you are looking for the brightness (mcd) and viewing
angle. The hardest part was figuring out the viewing angle so that motorist
could see the signals. Still not sure I got it right.

This site has some useful info and calculators.
http://www.theledlight.com/technical.html

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200
> ohm resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K
> ohm resistors and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?

The resistors are current limiters for the LEDs. Without them the LEDs
would burn very brightly for a second then become a SED
(Smoke Emitting Diode). :)

Actually you can drop using the regulator and just size the resistors
for 14V. But since the voltage is hard to predict I dropped in a regulator.
That means that even if the battery is a bit low, or a bit high, The signals
will always be the same brightness.

The cheaper LEDs you see for cars either have a regulator in them or
more commonly a limiting resistor.

When shopping for LEDs you are looking for the brightness (mcd) and viewing
angle. The hardest part was figuring out the viewing angle so that motorist
could see the signals. Still not sure I got it right.

This site has some useful info and calculators.
http://www.theledlight.com/technical.html

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

John wrote:
> DougW,
> question: If you use a 5v voltage regulator, why do you need the 200
> ohm resistors? I dont get it. I've hooked up LED's using only 1K
> ohm resistors and they worked fine.
> Are the resistors necessary?

The resistors are current limiters for the LEDs. Without them the LEDs
would burn very brightly for a second then become a SED
(Smoke Emitting Diode). :)

Actually you can drop using the regulator and just size the resistors
for 14V. But since the voltage is hard to predict I dropped in a regulator.
That means that even if the battery is a bit low, or a bit high, The signals
will always be the same brightness.

The cheaper LEDs you see for cars either have a regulator in them or
more commonly a limiting resistor.

When shopping for LEDs you are looking for the brightness (mcd) and viewing
angle. The hardest part was figuring out the viewing angle so that motorist
could see the signals. Still not sure I got it right.

This site has some useful info and calculators.
http://www.theledlight.com/technical.html

--
DougW

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

I went to Advance Auto, bought some Bendix higher end pads and Raybestos
rotor for a lot less then cross drilled Stillen parts I am sure. They have
been on the vehicle for 4-5 years and probably 70-80k miles or more. No
brake issues. Before that the car would not go more than 10k mile without
brake shudder. It is apparent to me that the DC stuff was just plain JUNK>


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
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> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty).
> Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I
> would have to pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their
> crummy product. However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no
> other car, and not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I
> did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

I went to Advance Auto, bought some Bendix higher end pads and Raybestos
rotor for a lot less then cross drilled Stillen parts I am sure. They have
been on the vehicle for 4-5 years and probably 70-80k miles or more. No
brake issues. Before that the car would not go more than 10k mile without
brake shudder. It is apparent to me that the DC stuff was just plain JUNK>


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty).
> Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I
> would have to pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their
> crummy product. However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no
> other car, and not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I
> did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

I went to Advance Auto, bought some Bendix higher end pads and Raybestos
rotor for a lot less then cross drilled Stillen parts I am sure. They have
been on the vehicle for 4-5 years and probably 70-80k miles or more. No
brake issues. Before that the car would not go more than 10k mile without
brake shudder. It is apparent to me that the DC stuff was just plain JUNK>


"John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty).
> Rotors were replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I
> would have to pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their
> crummy product. However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no
> other car, and not enough money to buy a new car.
>
> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>
> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I
> did it myself)
>
> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
> Brake shudder

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
free brake work.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4720fbdb$0$26472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected
> the
> problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty
> dollar
> cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
> rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
> news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
>> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly
>> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors
>> were
>> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have
>> to
>> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
> product.
>> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
>> not enough money to buy a new car.
>>
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
>> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>>
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than
>> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
> it
>> myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
>> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
>> Brake shudder
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
free brake work.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4720fbdb$0$26472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected
> the
> problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty
> dollar
> cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
> rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
> news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
>> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly
>> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors
>> were
>> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have
>> to
>> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
> product.
>> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
>> not enough money to buy a new car.
>>
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
>> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>>
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than
>> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
> it
>> myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
>> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
>> Brake shudder
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
free brake work.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4720fbdb$0$26472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> It's just the composite rotors from Jeep that failed, they corrected
> the
> problem by '02, probably still using composite rotors, but any twenty
> dollar
> cast iron replacement will fix the problem. Warrantee replaces both the
> rotor and calipers: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliper.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "John" <Here@there.com> wrote in message
> news:47208e75$0$26400$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> my 1999 Grand Cherokee front brakes used to shudder like they would fall
>> apart. I know this is a huge problem with Grand Cherokees. Brake
> assembly
>> (TB) and rotors were replaced by the dealer (under warranty). Rotors
>> were
>> replaced three times too no avail. Dealer finally told me I would have
>> to
>> pay to have them fixed. I was disgusted with DC, and their crummy
> product.
>> However, I had to keep driving this thing because I had no other car, and
>> not enough money to buy a new car.
>>
>> Enter Jeep Forums: They pointed me to Stillen. On a wing and a prair, I
>> ordered new brakes and rotors (Cross drilled and slotted) from Stillen.
>>
>> It's been 10,000 miles and no shudder...and the brakes grap much better
> than
>> the old DC ones. Total cost approx $300 and about 3 hours labor (I did
> it
>> myself)
>>
>> I dont work for Stillen, but for what it's worth, their product fixed my
>> problem and it will no doubt fix yours if you own a Grand Cherokee with
>> Brake shudder
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket, silver
in color, as pictured: http://www.----------.com/temp/WJCaliper.jpg Write
up: http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"doane_nut" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:47238697$0$32554$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
> warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
> free brake work.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket, silver
in color, as pictured: http://www.----------.com/temp/WJCaliper.jpg Write
up: http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"doane_nut" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:47238697$0$32554$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
> warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
> free brake work.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket, silver
in color, as pictured: http://www.----------.com/temp/WJCaliper.jpg Write
up: http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"doane_nut" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:47238697$0$32554$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Chrysler put their "heavy duty" rotor and pads on our '99 and they still
> warped. They turned them once more for free and said that was it. no more
> free brake work.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:59 -0700, Lardbutt Wanker (Billie) ------ III
wrote:

> Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
> when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket

So you hate 'Japs', OK.

So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?

Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:59 -0700, Lardbutt Wanker (Billie) ------ III
wrote:

> Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
> when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket

So you hate 'Japs', OK.

So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?

Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:59 -0700, Lardbutt Wanker (Billie) ------ III
wrote:

> Sorry, Daimler didn't really fix the problem until half way thru '02
> when they replaced the Teves calipers with Akebono and their bracket

So you hate 'Japs', OK.

So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?

Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around?
It's made by Daimler, too, At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
a hundred percent Japanese parts.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.27.17.26.59.402527@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> So you hate 'Japs', OK.
>
> So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?
>
> Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.
>
> --

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around?
It's made by Daimler, too, At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
a hundred percent Japanese parts.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.27.17.26.59.402527@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> So you hate 'Japs', OK.
>
> So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?
>
> Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.
>
> --

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around?
It's made by Daimler, too, At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
a hundred percent Japanese parts.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.27.17.26.59.402527@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> So you hate 'Japs', OK.
>
> So why are you suddenly recommending Japanese products now, eh Billieboi?
>
> Akebono is also a Yokozuna Sumo wrestler. Turns ya on, I bet.
>
> --

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:37:32 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> It's made by Daimler, too

Under license from the Japanese.

> At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
> a hundred percent Japanese parts.

Well, I don't know anyone who does, but in your sad case, it certainly
would be a step up, Buckaroo Banzai.

Trade in your Thunderturkey, you might a hundred or two for it.


--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:37:32 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> It's made by Daimler, too

Under license from the Japanese.

> At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
> a hundred percent Japanese parts.

Well, I don't know anyone who does, but in your sad case, it certainly
would be a step up, Buckaroo Banzai.

Trade in your Thunderturkey, you might a hundred or two for it.


--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Re: Grand Cherokee Brake Shudder Fix (I think)
 

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:37:32 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> It's made by Daimler, too

Under license from the Japanese.

> At least I don't drive a POS Integra made of
> a hundred percent Japanese parts.

Well, I don't know anyone who does, but in your sad case, it certainly
would be a step up, Buckaroo Banzai.

Trade in your Thunderturkey, you might a hundred or two for it.


--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer