Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
10-16-2003, 11:46 PM
#31
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
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c wrote:
>
> OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley like
> all of the other makes?
>
> Chris
doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
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mailto:--------------------
c wrote:
>
> OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley like
> all of the other makes?
>
> Chris
10-16-2003, 11:52 PM
#32
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I have preference for OEM on some stuff and those belts are one of them.
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
10-16-2003, 11:52 PM
#33
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I have preference for OEM on some stuff and those belts are one of them.
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
10-16-2003, 11:52 PM
#34
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I have preference for OEM on some stuff and those belts are one of them.
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
I just replaced mine for the first time on my 98XJ. It was starting to
get kind of funky looking at 180,000mi so I figured 'why not', Two tools
you will find useful. First is the 15mm wrench to loosen the idler pully
under and to the left of the power steering pump, that lets you loosen
the adjuster bolt to remove it. Mac makes one that is about 24" long and
can reach that T%$(*%&$# bolt without having to remove the electric fan,
$35 for the wrench and it has an open end and the other end is a ratchet
type box wrench. I'm picking up one next week, no more looking like I was
playing with a cat.
Second is a belt tension gauge, NAPA has them for about $14, they are
called the KrikitII and fit in your pocket like a pen, very useful.
New belt you adjust to 190lbs, used belt you adjust to 160lbs, new belt
is defined as one that has been run less then 15 minutes. After 3 weeks
mine is sitting at 170lbs.
Now if Good Year made them in that neat looking blue it might be a
different story :-)
While your in there you might consider replacing your mechanical fan
clutch, mine like yours is getting up there in age and common consensus
seems to be about a 5 year life. Might even want to consider a coolant
change and a good cleaning, new OEM thermostat and pressure cap. I do
mine every 2 years and use that 7 hour flush from prestone, I don't want
to break crap free that took two years to grow there in 10 minutes. I
settle for a more gentle method and it works well. I also use mopar
coolant, heard of too many people loosing a water pump after using an
aftermarket brand or maybe I just see them posting more than success
stories...
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:mTHjb.922$XZ1.753
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:bmlbrg$hgf@garcia.efn.org...
>> I am going to get a spare serpentine belt before my big elk hunting
trip
>> in a couple weeks here. Should I go to the dealer, or get one from an
>> auto parts store? I'm happy to pay more FOR MORE QUALITY. Just want
to
>> make sure that's the case with these belts.
>>
>> Also going to get a spare headlight. Any other spares I should get?
>> Vehicle is a '97 TJ with 4.0L engine, 68K miles, runs great.
>
> Gates is the brand I like to see... most places sell 'em. Check
> the belt for shelf dry-rot... take it and bend it back and forth,
> looking for cracks (I've bought new dry-rotted belts before).
> Dealer spark plug wires are really good... dealer belts are
> not so much better.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
10-17-2003, 12:13 AM
#35
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
10-17-2003, 12:13 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
10-17-2003, 12:13 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
belt tensioner... who would do that?
__
Steve
..
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8F65F9.9FA08913@***.net...
> They do now, and all Fords had them by at least '83, but the '97 TJ
> doesn't: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > OK, this might be a stupid question since I don't own my Jeep yet, but
> > doesn't the serpentine setup have a spring loaded belt tensioner pulley
like
> > all of the other makes?
> >
> > Chris
10-17-2003, 12:41 AM
#38
Guest
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Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
http://www.----------.com/serptens.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
10-17-2003, 12:41 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
http://www.----------.com/serptens.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
10-17-2003, 12:41 AM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: Go to MOPAR for a serpentine belt...?
http://www.----------.com/serptens.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> I believe if you forego power steering you get the springy
> belt tensioner... who would do that?
> __
> Steve
