Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

Be thankful for your good luck.

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vg957ssqm6g10e@corp.supernews.com...
> If I remember right, my top hose is below the level of the radiator cap.
> But, even if it wasn't, the huge flow of water through the hose would tend
> to empty the air out of it and into the radiator where it would be trapped
> at least until the motor was shut off, where it would migrate back to the
> hose if the hose was the hig point in the system. I just don't get it when
> we worry about air getting stuck inside the block, I have never
experienced
> air getting stuck, and I can't imagine anybody experiencing a greater
> variety of cars than I have been exosed to. I have noticed plugs and stuff
> that, in theory, would allow air to be bled from the block, I just haven't
> ever had the pleasure of performing that particular task.
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F048ADA.7B4724F4@cox.net...
> > Hi Jeff,
> > There's at least a gallon air pocket in my '89 Bird, in the top
> > radiator hose that is well above the radiator, and I bet if you look at
> > your Bimmer You'll have it too. It's no problem just when I change
> > coolant I fill completely the overflow reservoir, then refill it when
> > next it cools. Then it's good to go for the next two years.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > I have never experienced that, and my father was a car wholesaler
during
> my
> > > teen years, so making junkers work like a clock tended to consume my
> > > weekends. I have heard you guys talking about it here, but I have
never
> > > actually seen it.
> > >
> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> > > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-ejEUksdjE3HK@anon.none.net...
> > > > I don't know the physics behind it, but I've had systems that would
> > > > trap an air pocket and just continue to overheat until you let it
> > > > flow under zero pressure (cap off) for a while. Same with the
little
> > > > trick Mike Romain mentions every so often about having the heater
hose
> > > > located too high. I always back mine out of the level garage to the
> > > > sloped driveway and fill it with the nose pointed up a bit - that
> > > > seems to do the trick as well.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:42:36 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Won't air get pushed out all by itself and get stuck in the
> radiator?
> > > > >
> > > > > Start the motor and leave the radiator cap off. After the tstat
> opens,
> > > top
> > > > > off the radiator again. Then, put the cap back on and go for a
ride.
> > > > > Tomorrow, before you start the motor again, pull the cap and top
off
> if
> > > > > needed. Any air that is in the system should get pushed to the
> radiator
> > > > > where it will be captured.
> > > > >
> > > > > PS
> > > > > You don't need to wait until tomorrow, you only need to wait for
the
> > > > > radiator co cool so that you can open it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vg69ovqjfqf142@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > From the various research I have done on the cooling problems of
> my
> > > 1993
> > > > > XJ
> > > > > > 4.0L, I have decided to replace the radiator with a 3-core.
Some
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > posts I have read mention getting the air out (burping) of the
> system.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > is the best way to do this? Trying to gather all the info I can
> > > before I
> > > > > > start this project
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
>
>

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

Getting an air pocket stuck in the cooling system is fairly common on
some (mostly fairly recent production Japanese designed) vehicles. Many
of these have the thermostat on the lower radiator hose. Because these
vehicles are now very numerous, the problem gets a fair amount of press.

But it is extroidinairly uncommon in anything like a Jeep or for that
matter most American rear wheel drive vehicles. Earle, I'm not saying
it never happens, just that the vast majority of will not have this
problem. Most of us will just fill up the radiator, cap it and top off
the overflow a few times later with no problems.

Regards,

DAve

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

"DaveW" <spsffannospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:be2g4e02tuc@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Getting an air pocket stuck in the cooling system is fairly common on
> some (mostly fairly recent production Japanese designed) vehicles. Many
> of these have the thermostat on the lower radiator hose. Because these
> vehicles are now very numerous, the problem gets a fair amount of press.
>
> But it is extroidinairly uncommon in anything like a Jeep or for that
> matter most American rear wheel drive vehicles. Earle, I'm not saying
> it never happens, just that the vast majority of will not have this
> problem. Most of us will just fill up the radiator, cap it and top off
> the overflow a few times later with no problems.
>

Agreed, and that's what makes it so diabolical when it does happen. You
don't expect any trouble, but the coolant fill just won't accept what you
try to pour into it, and the engine gets real hot when you try to run it...

Earle

> Regards,
>
> DAve
>

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

Filling the V6 used in the Mustang IIs and trucketts have that
problem, prepare to loose some coolant, before the thermostat opens.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DaveW wrote:
>
> Getting an air pocket stuck in the cooling system is fairly common on
> some (mostly fairly recent production Japanese designed) vehicles. Many
> of these have the thermostat on the lower radiator hose. Because these
> vehicles are now very numerous, the problem gets a fair amount of press.
>
> But it is extroidinairly uncommon in anything like a Jeep or for that
> matter most American rear wheel drive vehicles. Earle, I'm not saying
> it never happens, just that the vast majority of will not have this
> problem. Most of us will just fill up the radiator, cap it and top off
> the overflow a few times later with no problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

"DaveW" <spsffannospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:be2g4e02tuc@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Getting an air pocket stuck in the cooling system is fairly common on
> some (mostly fairly recent production Japanese designed) vehicles. Many
> of these have the thermostat on the lower radiator hose. Because these
> vehicles are now very numerous, the problem gets a fair amount of press.
>
> But it is extroidinairly uncommon in anything like a Jeep or for that
> matter most American rear wheel drive vehicles. Earle, I'm not saying
> it never happens, just that the vast majority of will not have this
> problem. Most of us will just fill up the radiator, cap it and top off
> the overflow a few times later with no problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
>

Check the GM newsgroups. The subject comes up regularly. For some reason,
the newer trucks have to be *burped* a few times to get all the air out.

Dave

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

I had it happen a couple of times on the '65 mustang - but I had the heater
on - waited for the fluid level to go down (thermostat open) & sort of
created a "surge" by pushing on the carb linkage (raise the rpm's & let go
real quick), until I got hot air out of the heater. worked for me.....

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:be24t2$fnls$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> Be thankful for your good luck.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vg957ssqm6g10e@corp.supernews.com...
> > If I remember right, my top hose is below the level of the radiator cap.
> > But, even if it wasn't, the huge flow of water through the hose would
tend
> > to empty the air out of it and into the radiator where it would be
trapped
> > at least until the motor was shut off, where it would migrate back to
the
> > hose if the hose was the hig point in the system. I just don't get it
when
> > we worry about air getting stuck inside the block, I have never
> experienced
> > air getting stuck, and I can't imagine anybody experiencing a greater
> > variety of cars than I have been exosed to. I have noticed plugs and
stuff
> > that, in theory, would allow air to be bled from the block, I just
haven't
> > ever had the pleasure of performing that particular task.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F048ADA.7B4724F4@cox.net...
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > > There's at least a gallon air pocket in my '89 Bird, in the top
> > > radiator hose that is well above the radiator, and I bet if you look
at
> > > your Bimmer You'll have it too. It's no problem just when I change
> > > coolant I fill completely the overflow reservoir, then refill it when
> > > next it cools. Then it's good to go for the next two years.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have never experienced that, and my father was a car wholesaler
> during
> > my
> > > > teen years, so making junkers work like a clock tended to consume my
> > > > weekends. I have heard you guys talking about it here, but I have
> never
> > > > actually seen it.
> > > >
> > > > "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-ejEUksdjE3HK@anon.none.net...
> > > > > I don't know the physics behind it, but I've had systems that
would
> > > > > trap an air pocket and just continue to overheat until you let it
> > > > > flow under zero pressure (cap off) for a while. Same with the
> little
> > > > > trick Mike Romain mentions every so often about having the heater
> hose
> > > > > located too high. I always back mine out of the level garage to
the
> > > > > sloped driveway and fill it with the nose pointed up a bit - that
> > > > > seems to do the trick as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:42:36 UTC "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Won't air get pushed out all by itself and get stuck in the
> > radiator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Start the motor and leave the radiator cap off. After the tstat
> > opens,
> > > > top
> > > > > > off the radiator again. Then, put the cap back on and go for a
> ride.
> > > > > > Tomorrow, before you start the motor again, pull the cap and top
> off
> > if
> > > > > > needed. Any air that is in the system should get pushed to the
> > radiator
> > > > > > where it will be captured.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS
> > > > > > You don't need to wait until tomorrow, you only need to wait for
> the
> > > > > > radiator co cool so that you can open it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:vg69ovqjfqf142@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > From the various research I have done on the cooling problems
of
> > my
> > > > 1993
> > > > > > XJ
> > > > > > > 4.0L, I have decided to replace the radiator with a 3-core.
> Some
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > posts I have read mention getting the air out (burping) of the
> > system.
> > > > > > What
> > > > > > > is the best way to do this? Trying to gather all the info I
can
> > > > before I
> > > > > > > start this project
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Getting the air out of cooling system?
 

that will teach you to buy autos with that blue oval on them!

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F04CBD3.3F3D9A74@cox.net...
Filling the V6 used in the Mustang IIs and trucketts have that
problem, prepare to loose some coolant, before the thermostat opens.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DaveW wrote:
>
> Getting an air pocket stuck in the cooling system is fairly common on
> some (mostly fairly recent production Japanese designed) vehicles. Many
> of these have the thermostat on the lower radiator hose. Because these
> vehicles are now very numerous, the problem gets a fair amount of press.
>
> But it is extroidinairly uncommon in anything like a Jeep or for that
> matter most American rear wheel drive vehicles. Earle, I'm not saying
> it never happens, just that the vast majority of will not have this
> problem. Most of us will just fill up the radiator, cap it and top off
> the overflow a few times later with no problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve