Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
09-15-2005, 05:46 AM
#21
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Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying "Odometer"
but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't know if the
information is retreived or not.
Thank you,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Ooops I already post this.
>>
>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
>> that information.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>
>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
>>> so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
>>> get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>
>>
>
but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't know if the
information is retreived or not.
Thank you,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Ooops I already post this.
>>
>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
>> that information.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>
>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
>>> so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
>>> get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>
>>
>
09-15-2005, 05:46 AM
#22
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Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying "Odometer"
but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't know if the
information is retreived or not.
Thank you,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Ooops I already post this.
>>
>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
>> that information.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>
>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
>>> so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
>>> get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>
>>
>
but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't know if the
information is retreived or not.
Thank you,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Ooops I already post this.
>>
>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
>> that information.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>
>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
>>> so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
>>> get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>
>>
>
09-15-2005, 10:22 AM
#23
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Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Instrument Panel Description and Operation
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
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"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
..
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-15-2005, 10:22 AM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Instrument Panel Description and Operation
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
..
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
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"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-15-2005, 10:22 AM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Instrument Panel Description and Operation
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
ODOMETER
DESCRIPTION
An odometer and trip odometer are standard
equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
and trip odometer information are displayed in a
common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
(VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
The trip odometer reset switch on the
instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
between odometer and trip odometer modes by
depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
and the trip odometer information is stored in the
instrument cluster memory.
The odometer can display values up to 999,999
kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
(999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
display does not have a decimal point and will
not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
(exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
which includes the electronic circuit board and the
rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
available for separate service replacement.
OPERATION
The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
and electronic messages received by the cluster
from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
the following features:
² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
with the ignition switch in the On position will
toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
to the On position the VFD will automatically return
to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
when the ignition switch was turned to the
Off position.
² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
the trip odometer information in order for the
trip odometer information to be reset.
² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
a distance message during normal operation, it will
hold and display the last data received until the ignition
switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
does not receive a distance message within one
second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
position, it will display the last distance message
stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
to display distance information due to an error internal
to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
required.
--
..
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
> know if the information is retreived or not.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>
>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>> was that information.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fidelio
>>>
>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
>>>>(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
>>>>
>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-16-2005, 11:38 AM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Complete and clear information. Thank you.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-16-2005, 11:38 AM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Complete and clear information. Thank you.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-16-2005, 11:38 AM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
Complete and clear information. Thank you.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:1b166$4329840a$d8449845$28494@FUSE.NET...
> Instrument Panel Description and Operation
> Section 8Js - Pages 18 & 19
>
> Envíeme una e-dirección válida en mi dirección abajo (Quite el SPAM) y
> enviaré la información adicional. Espero que este le ayude.
>
> ODOMETER
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> An odometer and trip odometer are standard
>
> equipment in all instrument clusters. The odometer
>
> and trip odometer information are displayed in a
>
> common electronic Vacuum-Fluorescent Display
>
> (VFD), which is visible through a small window cutout
>
> centered on the lower edge of the speedometer
>
> gauge dial face. However, the odometer and trip
>
> odometer information are not displayed simultaneously.
>
> The trip odometer reset switch on the
>
> instrument cluster circuit board toggles the display
>
> between odometer and trip odometer modes by
>
> depressing the odometer/trip odometer switch ****
>
> that extends through the lower edge of the cluster
>
> lens, just right of the speedometer. Both the odometer
>
> and the trip odometer information is stored in the
>
> instrument cluster memory.
>
> The odometer can display values up to 999,999
>
> kilometers (999,999 miles). The odometer latches at
>
> these values, and will not roll over to zero. The trip
>
> odometer can display values up to 999.9 kilometers
>
> (999.9 miles) before it rolls over to zero. The odometer
>
> display does not have a decimal point and will
>
> not show values less than a full unit (kilometer or
>
> mile), the trip odometer display does have a decimal
>
> point and will show tenths of a unit (kilometer or
>
> mile). The unit of measure for the odometer and trip
>
> odometer display is not shown in the VFD. The unit
>
> of measure for the instrument cluster odometer/trip
>
> odometer is selected at the time that it is manufactured,
>
> and cannot be changed. During daylight hours
>
> (exterior lamps Off) the VFD is illuminated at full
>
> brightness for clear visibility. At night (exterior
>
> lamps are On) the VFD lighting level is adjusted
>
> with the other cluster illumination lamps using the
>
> panel lamps dimmer input from the left (lighting)
>
> multi-function switch. The VFD, the trip odometer
>
> switch, and the trip odometer switch button are serviced
>
> as a unit with the instrument cluster housing,
>
> which includes the electronic circuit board and the
>
> rear housing cover. The trip odometer switch **** is
>
> available for separate service replacement.
>
> OPERATION
>
> The odometer and trip odometer give an indication
>
> to the vehicle operator of the distance the vehicle has
>
> traveled. This gauge is controlled by the instrument
>
> cluster circuit board based upon the cluster programming
>
> and electronic messages received by the cluster
>
> from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) over the
>
> Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) data
>
> bus. The odometer and trip odometer information is
>
> displayed by the instrument cluster Vacuum-Fluorescent
>
> Display (VFD), and the VFD will not display
>
> odometer or trip odometer information after the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. The instrument
>
> cluster circuitry controls the VFD and provides
>
> the following features:
>
> ² Odometer/Trip Odometer Display Toggling -
>
> Actuating the trip odometer reset switch momentarily
>
> with the ignition switch in the On position will
>
> toggle the VFD between the odometer and trip odometer
>
> display. Each time the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the On position the VFD will automatically return
>
> to the mode (odometer or trip odometer) last displayed
>
> when the ignition switch was turned to the
>
> Off position.
>
> ² Trip Odometer Reset - When the trip odometer
>
> reset switch is pressed and held for longer than
>
> about two seconds, the trip odometer will reset to
>
> 000.0 kilometers (miles). The VFD must be displaying
>
> the trip odometer information in order for the
>
> trip odometer information to be reset.
>
> ² Message Failure - If the cluster fails to receive
>
> a distance message during normal operation, it will
>
> hold and display the last data received until the ignition
>
> switch is turned to the Off position. If the cluster
>
> does not receive a distance message within one
>
> second after the ignition switch is turned to the On
>
> position, it will display the last distance message
>
> stored in the cluster memory. If the cluster is unable
>
> to display distance information due to an error internal
>
> to the cluster, the VFD display will be blank.
>
> ² Actuator Test - Each time the cluster is put
>
> through the actuator test, the VFD will display all of
>
> each number (0 through 9) in steps to confirm the
>
> functionality of the VFD and the cluster circuitry.
>
> The PCM continually monitors the vehicle speed
>
> sensor, then sends the proper distance messages to
>
> the instrument cluster. For further diagnosis of the
>
> odometer/trip odometer or the instrument cluster circuitry
>
> that controls these functions, (Refer to 8 -
>
> ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - DIAGNOSIS
>
> AND TESTING). For proper diagnosis of the
>
> vehicle speed sensor, the PCM, the PCI data bus, or
>
> the message inputs to the instrument cluster that
>
> control the odometer/trip odometer, a DRBIIIt scan
>
> tool and the appropriate diagnostic information are
>
> required.
>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:dgbfe9$cim$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Really? I saw at Autotap (a USB OBD-II reader) a parameter saying
>> "Odometer" but what I have is only the manual of the program so I don't
>> know if the information is retreived or not.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:rKydnY7WZYsID7XeRVn-rw@ez2.net...
>>> No, you can not obtain the mileage from the OBD II connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dg8kv2$5iv$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>> Ooops I already post this.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector
>>>> was that information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Fidelio
>>>>
>>>> P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
>>>>
>>>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>>>>I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
>>>>>(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000
>>>>>kilometers (yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000
>>>>>kilometers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
>>>>> injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or
>>>>> log so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a
>>>>> program get the real value. Is this possible???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Fidelio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-17-2005, 07:56 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
a dealer can use the drb to run a memory sri check to confirm milages on vehicle
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> I think it takes a DRB III:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand...spagenameZWD1V
> I know Ford and GM's computers record the actual mileage.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Fidelio wrote:
> >
> > Ooops I already post this.
> >
> > So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
> > that information.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Fidelio
> >
> > P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> > >I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
> > >(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
> > >(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
> > >
> > > There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
> > > injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
> > > so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
> > > get the real value. Is this possible???
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Fidelio
> > >
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> I think it takes a DRB III:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand...spagenameZWD1V
> I know Ford and GM's computers record the actual mileage.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Fidelio wrote:
> >
> > Ooops I already post this.
> >
> > So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
> > that information.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Fidelio
> >
> > P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> > >I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
> > >(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
> > >(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
> > >
> > > There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
> > > injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
> > > so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
> > > get the real value. Is this possible???
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Fidelio
> > >
09-17-2005, 07:56 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Get real milerage on a 97 Jeep Wrangler
a dealer can use the drb to run a memory sri check to confirm milages on vehicle
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> I think it takes a DRB III:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand...spagenameZWD1V
> I know Ford and GM's computers record the actual mileage.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Fidelio wrote:
> >
> > Ooops I already post this.
> >
> > So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
> > that information.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Fidelio
> >
> > P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> > >I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
> > >(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
> > >(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
> > >
> > > There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
> > > injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
> > > so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
> > > get the real value. Is this possible???
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Fidelio
> > >
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> I think it takes a DRB III:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand...spagenameZWD1V
> I know Ford and GM's computers record the actual mileage.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Fidelio wrote:
> >
> > Ooops I already post this.
> >
> > So the question is just if the programs reading from ODB-II connector was
> > that information.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Fidelio
> >
> > P.D.: Sorry about doble posting within a couple of months
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:dg8jjd$33d$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> > >I just got a '97 Jeep Wrangler and I suspect that the milerage counter
> > >(it's digital on this model) has been cheated. It marks 58000 kilometers
> > >(yeah metric system) but I think the car has about 140000 kilometers.
> > >
> > > There is anyway to find out the real milerage? I was thinking if the
> > > injection system computer is storing the real value in any record or log
> > > so with the proper cable connected to the ODB-II conector and a program
> > > get the real value. Is this possible???
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Fidelio
> > >