General Jeep Questions
06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
You really need to go back and ask yourself what you really want to do
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
You really need to go back and ask yourself what you really want to do
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
You really need to go back and ask yourself what you really want to do
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
with your jeep. The CJ's and back have a lot of nostelga and a lot of
rust. Galavanized body sheet metal was introduced for the YJ models and
the last 6 months of production on the Cj's For your price point, you
really should look at the early model TJ's, you should be able to find
decent '97 or '98 models for that money. Just as capable off road, much
nice ride on road. 2" lift can be done for $100 with the spring spacers.
1) The Carter BBD can be a pain but properly set up and maintained, they
are fine. Getting rid of the computer helps a lot.
2) I run a Peugot in my '87 behind the 4.2, never had any problems with
it. Of course I tend to be a smooth driver and take care to not pound
either the Jeep or the tranny even when I go funny places. You can take
your chances, swap it out for the Asin-15, or just avoid those years.
3) The 4cyl is a solid and tough engine. Pretty anemic at 70 mph freeway
speeds with the jeep aerodymanics but you will never notice the
difference off road (ok, DEEP mud needs HP to spin the tires free)
4) No experieince with fiberglass.
5) 1" body lift is fine, 2" is ok with a couple of issues, stay away
from a 3" body lift. Shackle lifts should be avoided, they change the
caster angles and cause handling issues. The 1-1/4" lift versions with
cross piece are ok. Spring lift over 2-1/2" will cause driveline vibes,
best solution to that is a CV driveshaft for $$$. Beware of stiff
shocks, off road needs fairly soft shocks.
griffin wrote:
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
06-15-2007, 11:09 AM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
The 4 cyl. YJ's all have fuel injection, run decent, and the axle ratio is
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
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4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
06-15-2007, 11:09 AM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
The 4 cyl. YJ's all have fuel injection, run decent, and the axle ratio is
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
06-15-2007, 11:09 AM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
The 4 cyl. YJ's all have fuel injection, run decent, and the axle ratio is
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
06-15-2007, 11:09 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
The 4 cyl. YJ's all have fuel injection, run decent, and the axle ratio is
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
4.10/4.11. If you're not going to completely overhaul it from the ground
up, then maybe you're going to keep the existing axle ratio. The power is
of course less than a six, but you don't have to deal with a carburetor and
the axle ratio makes up for it to some extent off road. Unless you are mud
or gravel racing you're not going that fast off road any way.
You can find unrusted bodies in New Mexico, but I don't know the import
rules and regulations.
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Hikci.28520$xq1.20817@pd7urf1no...
> I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an
'85
> CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ
wasn't
> too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to
around
> $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a
few
> questions:
>
> 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some
advantages
> and disadvantages to the following:
> - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber
> - 91-95 with fuel injection
> - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in
something?
>
> 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this
> just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ
> trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some
> reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified?
>
> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
> 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live
in
> the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell
but
> I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad.
>
> 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I
should
> watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause
> problems?
>
> 6. Anything else?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
06-15-2007, 02:38 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
Hmm ok, so as long as I change the gears to match any mods I do, then this
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:bvt373h3pajcauef2q8lval3dmbshfpqir@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:bvt373h3pajcauef2q8lval3dmbshfpqir@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
06-15-2007, 02:38 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: General Jeep Questions
Hmm ok, so as long as I change the gears to match any mods I do, then this
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:bvt373h3pajcauef2q8lval3dmbshfpqir@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:bvt373h3pajcauef2q8lval3dmbshfpqir@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
06-15-2007, 02:38 PM
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Re: General Jeep Questions
Hmm ok, so as long as I change the gears to match any mods I do, then this
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver
in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half
off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO
serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff.
Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl
TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen
some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000.
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:bvt373h3pajcauef2q8lval3dmbshfpqir@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:37:11 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
> >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
> >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough
power
> >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old
CJ
> >6cyl, CJ 304 V8?
>
>
> The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based
> off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee
> that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over
> 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to
> start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized
> tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the
> power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon
> the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail
> at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off
> road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never
> bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with
> exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a
> 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well
> it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway
> cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag
> from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road
> machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use
> less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading
> and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile
> I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared
> deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend
> in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on
> steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It
> had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in
> this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a
> total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was
> a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would
> go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up,
> you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of
> winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I
> regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with
> from time to time.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>