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Re: General Jeep Questions
He can't do that Bill, he has stated the piece of junk he owns 'IF' he
even owns a Jeep will explode if he even tries to spin the tires a little in reverse to unwind a bind. His vehicle is a non street legal, due to rot and neglect, driveway snowplow. Mike L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote: > Maybe, if you show us some pictures of your Jeep doing something, like > Mike's pictures at: http://----------.com/mikeRomain/ Or doing some climbs, > like mine: http://----------.com/68jeep.jpg or: > http://----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg or: http://----------.com/pismo.htm And > not an example of your poor workmanship, a YJ that doesn't even have an air > cleaner: http://----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message > news:6db67393mqvr11e7m6c9inp6ubn6lgbmtu@4ax.com... >> >> Again the reason for this is that there is a LOT of guys out there >> like Mike Romain that act like "experts" and know it all and tell you >> to install lifts and big tires and keep stock gears and so what if you >> loose 5th and need low range all the time. (hello, this is telling you >> that you have a gear ratio problem) It is mentallity like this that >> causes this hype about it being a bad motor because many think the >> solution is a tune, bigger carb or custom exhaust and if that fails, a >> bigger engine rather than realize that deeper gears will help a LOT >> more overall. (not just a opinion but rather the physics of it all >> too) I knew a guy that had a old YJ with a 4 banger and 35's and 5.13 >> gears in it and he beat the heck out of it off road and it held up and >> surprized many as to what it would do and where it would go. He >> finially killed the motor when he hydrolocked it and busted it when he >> sunk it unexpectadly. BTW, it had over 150K on it too. >> >> One day I may buy one more Jeep (I have owned over a dozen 4x4's in >> over 35 years and four of them Jeeps) I what to find a old clean YJ >> one of the last years built with a 4 banger that has not been lifted >> and do a mild lift and runs maybe some 33's andwith some 4.88's or so >> in it and just play around with it. It will not be a daily driver. >> BTW, I have a old and now rare J20 Jeep truck that I have owned for >> almost 22 years now that is still 100% stock and it is a beast. With >> its 4.10 gears and 360 V8 with stock sized bias plied nasty traction >> grip 10 ply tires, you rarely need low range for anything. This is the >> way I like my 4x4 geared so low range is used when you need a slower >> speed, not because you are so over geared that you cannot do much >> without it off road. >> ----------------- >> TheSnoMan.com > > > |
Re: General Jeep Questions -Now SnoMan the Stalker
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:38:03 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >> my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >> goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >> without it. > > This guy is so full of it. SnoMan, once again all you will get is abuse if you continue to stalk my posts. You are a brain dead idiot which you have proven over and over and over. You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane and give out advise that will kill people. Yes, I compromise unneeded things like lower gears due to funds and use my gears. I still get 11L/100km or 23 mpg using only 4th as a top gear foole! And I can think of 'much' better ways to blow 2 grand than for unneeded gears. No I cannot fix my Jeep much anymore because I got smashed up in a car accident. Yes I farm out 'specialized' work like gear setups and springs to 'professionals' with the right tools 'even when I could work on them'. Now as to how many Jeep engines I have helped folks from this newsgroup rebuild in a snowbank in the driveway, well... They 'all' are still on the road going strong... No I am 'not' stupid enough to use a shop that has platinum tools or sells gold plated parts, which you seem to advocate. Yes, I 'use' my shift into 4 high at any legal speed option that my Jeep came with in the winter rather than stop in the middle of a highway in a snowstorm to shift gears like 'YOU' advocate. (That proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane with no regard to anyone's safety!) Yes I goose my tires a little in reverse to unwind the drivetrain if it binds up rather that stopping on the highway in a storm to jack up a tire and let the stress off 'easy' as you advocate and actually suckered someone into. (more Deadly advise) 'My' Jeep can take that with no problems, I don't drive wrecked 'snoplows' that can't spin a tire without exploding like 'you' have stated yours will do. Now once again screw off! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: General Jeep Questions -Now SnoMan the Stalker
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:38:03 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >> my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >> goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >> without it. > > This guy is so full of it. SnoMan, once again all you will get is abuse if you continue to stalk my posts. You are a brain dead idiot which you have proven over and over and over. You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane and give out advise that will kill people. Yes, I compromise unneeded things like lower gears due to funds and use my gears. I still get 11L/100km or 23 mpg using only 4th as a top gear foole! And I can think of 'much' better ways to blow 2 grand than for unneeded gears. No I cannot fix my Jeep much anymore because I got smashed up in a car accident. Yes I farm out 'specialized' work like gear setups and springs to 'professionals' with the right tools 'even when I could work on them'. Now as to how many Jeep engines I have helped folks from this newsgroup rebuild in a snowbank in the driveway, well... They 'all' are still on the road going strong... No I am 'not' stupid enough to use a shop that has platinum tools or sells gold plated parts, which you seem to advocate. Yes, I 'use' my shift into 4 high at any legal speed option that my Jeep came with in the winter rather than stop in the middle of a highway in a snowstorm to shift gears like 'YOU' advocate. (That proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane with no regard to anyone's safety!) Yes I goose my tires a little in reverse to unwind the drivetrain if it binds up rather that stopping on the highway in a storm to jack up a tire and let the stress off 'easy' as you advocate and actually suckered someone into. (more Deadly advise) 'My' Jeep can take that with no problems, I don't drive wrecked 'snoplows' that can't spin a tire without exploding like 'you' have stated yours will do. Now once again screw off! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: General Jeep Questions -Now SnoMan the Stalker
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:38:03 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >> my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >> goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >> without it. > > This guy is so full of it. SnoMan, once again all you will get is abuse if you continue to stalk my posts. You are a brain dead idiot which you have proven over and over and over. You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane and give out advise that will kill people. Yes, I compromise unneeded things like lower gears due to funds and use my gears. I still get 11L/100km or 23 mpg using only 4th as a top gear foole! And I can think of 'much' better ways to blow 2 grand than for unneeded gears. No I cannot fix my Jeep much anymore because I got smashed up in a car accident. Yes I farm out 'specialized' work like gear setups and springs to 'professionals' with the right tools 'even when I could work on them'. Now as to how many Jeep engines I have helped folks from this newsgroup rebuild in a snowbank in the driveway, well... They 'all' are still on the road going strong... No I am 'not' stupid enough to use a shop that has platinum tools or sells gold plated parts, which you seem to advocate. Yes, I 'use' my shift into 4 high at any legal speed option that my Jeep came with in the winter rather than stop in the middle of a highway in a snowstorm to shift gears like 'YOU' advocate. (That proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane with no regard to anyone's safety!) Yes I goose my tires a little in reverse to unwind the drivetrain if it binds up rather that stopping on the highway in a storm to jack up a tire and let the stress off 'easy' as you advocate and actually suckered someone into. (more Deadly advise) 'My' Jeep can take that with no problems, I don't drive wrecked 'snoplows' that can't spin a tire without exploding like 'you' have stated yours will do. Now once again screw off! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: General Jeep Questions -Now SnoMan the Stalker
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:38:03 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >> my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >> goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >> without it. > > This guy is so full of it. SnoMan, once again all you will get is abuse if you continue to stalk my posts. You are a brain dead idiot which you have proven over and over and over. You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane and give out advise that will kill people. Yes, I compromise unneeded things like lower gears due to funds and use my gears. I still get 11L/100km or 23 mpg using only 4th as a top gear foole! And I can think of 'much' better ways to blow 2 grand than for unneeded gears. No I cannot fix my Jeep much anymore because I got smashed up in a car accident. Yes I farm out 'specialized' work like gear setups and springs to 'professionals' with the right tools 'even when I could work on them'. Now as to how many Jeep engines I have helped folks from this newsgroup rebuild in a snowbank in the driveway, well... They 'all' are still on the road going strong... No I am 'not' stupid enough to use a shop that has platinum tools or sells gold plated parts, which you seem to advocate. Yes, I 'use' my shift into 4 high at any legal speed option that my Jeep came with in the winter rather than stop in the middle of a highway in a snowstorm to shift gears like 'YOU' advocate. (That proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane with no regard to anyone's safety!) Yes I goose my tires a little in reverse to unwind the drivetrain if it binds up rather that stopping on the highway in a storm to jack up a tire and let the stress off 'easy' as you advocate and actually suckered someone into. (more Deadly advise) 'My' Jeep can take that with no problems, I don't drive wrecked 'snoplows' that can't spin a tire without exploding like 'you' have stated yours will do. Now once again screw off! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: General Jeep Questions
If you are going to be running our typical Canadian Bush trails, a tall
skinny tire even pushed by a 4 banger will have no issues. 31's will go pretty much anywhere on these trails and 33's will just about do it all. Well, all that I have tried.... For crawling, we don't need 1st low at all on these type of trails unless it's to climb over a log, so no matter what gear range you end up with, not being able to go slow enough won't be an issue. When I am churning along the trails, I like 3rd low because it has lots of 'control' and the punch if needed. I liked it with 31's and I still like it with 33's. Here are some photos of some Canadian trails with Jeepers from this newsgroup running them. Lots with 4 bangers and/or stock tires or only 31's on. Take note of where I am, taking all the photos of people trying and sometimes trying again to get to where I am, in 'spite' of my tall gears and open differentials eh! <grin> Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217 Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) griffin wrote: > Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of > rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy > rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making > sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up. > > It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with > the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's > ...might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money > into upgrades. > > > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no... >> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ >> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked >> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and > tires >> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in >> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever. > > |
Re: General Jeep Questions
If you are going to be running our typical Canadian Bush trails, a tall
skinny tire even pushed by a 4 banger will have no issues. 31's will go pretty much anywhere on these trails and 33's will just about do it all. Well, all that I have tried.... For crawling, we don't need 1st low at all on these type of trails unless it's to climb over a log, so no matter what gear range you end up with, not being able to go slow enough won't be an issue. When I am churning along the trails, I like 3rd low because it has lots of 'control' and the punch if needed. I liked it with 31's and I still like it with 33's. Here are some photos of some Canadian trails with Jeepers from this newsgroup running them. Lots with 4 bangers and/or stock tires or only 31's on. Take note of where I am, taking all the photos of people trying and sometimes trying again to get to where I am, in 'spite' of my tall gears and open differentials eh! <grin> Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217 Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) griffin wrote: > Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of > rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy > rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making > sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up. > > It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with > the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's > ...might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money > into upgrades. > > > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no... >> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ >> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked >> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and > tires >> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in >> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever. > > |
Re: General Jeep Questions
If you are going to be running our typical Canadian Bush trails, a tall
skinny tire even pushed by a 4 banger will have no issues. 31's will go pretty much anywhere on these trails and 33's will just about do it all. Well, all that I have tried.... For crawling, we don't need 1st low at all on these type of trails unless it's to climb over a log, so no matter what gear range you end up with, not being able to go slow enough won't be an issue. When I am churning along the trails, I like 3rd low because it has lots of 'control' and the punch if needed. I liked it with 31's and I still like it with 33's. Here are some photos of some Canadian trails with Jeepers from this newsgroup running them. Lots with 4 bangers and/or stock tires or only 31's on. Take note of where I am, taking all the photos of people trying and sometimes trying again to get to where I am, in 'spite' of my tall gears and open differentials eh! <grin> Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217 Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) griffin wrote: > Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of > rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy > rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making > sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up. > > It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with > the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's > ...might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money > into upgrades. > > > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no... >> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ >> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked >> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and > tires >> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in >> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever. > > |
Re: General Jeep Questions
If you are going to be running our typical Canadian Bush trails, a tall
skinny tire even pushed by a 4 banger will have no issues. 31's will go pretty much anywhere on these trails and 33's will just about do it all. Well, all that I have tried.... For crawling, we don't need 1st low at all on these type of trails unless it's to climb over a log, so no matter what gear range you end up with, not being able to go slow enough won't be an issue. When I am churning along the trails, I like 3rd low because it has lots of 'control' and the punch if needed. I liked it with 31's and I still like it with 33's. Here are some photos of some Canadian trails with Jeepers from this newsgroup running them. Lots with 4 bangers and/or stock tires or only 31's on. Take note of where I am, taking all the photos of people trying and sometimes trying again to get to where I am, in 'spite' of my tall gears and open differentials eh! <grin> Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217 Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) griffin wrote: > Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of > rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy > rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making > sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up. > > It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with > the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's > ...might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money > into upgrades. > > > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no... >> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ >> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked >> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and > tires >> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in >> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever. > > |
Re: General Jeep Questions
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, security@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, hostmaster@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message news:co0773dt4b08q4jkgfvok8ner5vu26qj9j@4ax.com... > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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