24Bit®

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:19:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:> There you go again, from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous,
:>really jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
:>schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via
:>S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's
:>only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self. With an obsession
:>with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, and cross posts to
:>other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
:>documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California
:>surfing body, beard, and loving family. Committing forgery over many of them
:>proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog,
:>like a Mexican Chiwawa with it's senseless barking, me too, me too. You're
:>even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie
:>to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a
:>man.
:> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
:>the same coward, posting over and over again using schizophrenic psychopath
:>forged up names???????
:> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraph
:>it fits so well!
:> But, now with this cross post worth a forwarding to:
:>internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca,
:>internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@***.net
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"Claude Horribly" <scarface@catnet.org> wrote in message
:>news:GFHci.31179$xq1.26936@pd7urf1no...
:>>
:>> It's 'who'.
:>>
:>> And yes, I most definitely do think.
:>>
:>> Shame you can't.

24Bit®

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:19:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:> There you go again, from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous,
:>really jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
:>schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via
:>S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's
:>only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self. With an obsession
:>with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, and cross posts to
:>other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
:>documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California
:>surfing body, beard, and loving family. Committing forgery over many of them
:>proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog,
:>like a Mexican Chiwawa with it's senseless barking, me too, me too. You're
:>even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie
:>to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a
:>man.
:> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
:>the same coward, posting over and over again using schizophrenic psychopath
:>forged up names???????
:> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraph
:>it fits so well!
:> But, now with this cross post worth a forwarding to:
:>internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca,
:>internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@***.net
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"Claude Horribly" <scarface@catnet.org> wrote in message
:>news:GFHci.31179$xq1.26936@pd7urf1no...
:>>
:>> It's 'who'.
:>>
:>> And yes, I most definitely do think.
:>>
:>> Shame you can't.

24Bit®

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:19:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:> There you go again, from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous,
:>really jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
:>schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via
:>S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's
:>only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self. With an obsession
:>with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, and cross posts to
:>other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
:>documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California
:>surfing body, beard, and loving family. Committing forgery over many of them
:>proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog,
:>like a Mexican Chiwawa with it's senseless barking, me too, me too. You're
:>even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie
:>to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a
:>man.
:> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
:>the same coward, posting over and over again using schizophrenic psychopath
:>forged up names???????
:> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraph
:>it fits so well!
:> But, now with this cross post worth a forwarding to:
:>internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca,
:>internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@***.net
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"Claude Horribly" <scarface@catnet.org> wrote in message
:>news:GFHci.31179$xq1.26936@pd7urf1no...
:>>
:>> It's 'who'.
:>>
:>> And yes, I most definitely do think.
:>>
:>> Shame you can't.

griffin

Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of
rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy
rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making
sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up.

It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with
the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's
....might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money
into upgrades.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no...
> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ
> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked
> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and
tires
> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in
> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever.

griffin

Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of
rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy
rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making
sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up.

It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with
the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's
....might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money
into upgrades.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no...
> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ
> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked
> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and
tires
> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in
> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever.

griffin

Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of
rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy
rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making
sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up.

It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with
the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's
....might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money
into upgrades.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no...
> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ
> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked
> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and
tires
> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in
> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever.

griffin

Does she use it mainly for rock climbing or mud bogging? I'm not a fan of
rocks and mostly just like to go through massive mud puddles and along muddy
rut-laiden trails where I will need a constant stream of torque and making
sure the tires don't start to spin or get hung up.

It seems most people agree that the 4 is "enough" for basic Jeeping and with
the large scale difference in price between the 4s and the sought after 6's
....might be better to get a nice 4 with low kliks and dump the extra money
into upgrades.


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3yHci.31169$xq1.20340@pd7urf1no...
> Just to put my 2 cents into the 4cyl debate. My daughter has had a 95 YJ
> 4cyl for about 4 years, she has a 4" lift, runs 33 x 12" BFG MTs, locked
> front and rear, and 4.88 gears. Hyway is not great, but with lift and
tires
> she doesn't want it too fast anyway, off road there is no difference in
> power at 5 miles an hour climbing whatever.

Mike Romain

He can't do that Bill, he has stated the piece of junk he owns 'IF' he
even owns a Jeep will explode if he even tries to spin the tires a
little in reverse to unwind a bind.

His vehicle is a non street legal, due to rot and neglect, driveway
snowplow.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Maybe, if you show us some pictures of your Jeep doing something, like
> Mike's pictures at: http://----------.com/mikeRomain/ Or doing some climbs,
> like mine: http://----------.com/68jeep.jpg or:
> http://----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg or: http://----------.com/pismo.htm And
> not an example of your poor workmanship, a YJ that doesn't even have an air
> cleaner: http://----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:6db67393mqvr11e7m6c9inp6ubn6lgbmtu@4ax.com...
>>
>> Again the reason for this is that there is a LOT of guys out there
>> like Mike Romain that act like "experts" and know it all and tell you
>> to install lifts and big tires and keep stock gears and so what if you
>> loose 5th and need low range all the time. (hello, this is telling you
>> that you have a gear ratio problem) It is mentallity like this that
>> causes this hype about it being a bad motor because many think the
>> solution is a tune, bigger carb or custom exhaust and if that fails, a
>> bigger engine rather than realize that deeper gears will help a LOT
>> more overall. (not just a opinion but rather the physics of it all
>> too) I knew a guy that had a old YJ with a 4 banger and 35's and 5.13
>> gears in it and he beat the heck out of it off road and it held up and
>> surprized many as to what it would do and where it would go. He
>> finially killed the motor when he hydrolocked it and busted it when he
>> sunk it unexpectadly. BTW, it had over 150K on it too.
>>
>> One day I may buy one more Jeep (I have owned over a dozen 4x4's in
>> over 35 years and four of them Jeeps) I what to find a old clean YJ
>> one of the last years built with a 4 banger that has not been lifted
>> and do a mild lift and runs maybe some 33's andwith some 4.88's or so
>> in it and just play around with it. It will not be a daily driver.
>> BTW, I have a old and now rare J20 Jeep truck that I have owned for
>> almost 22 years now that is still 100% stock and it is a beast. With
>> its 4.10 gears and 360 V8 with stock sized bias plied nasty traction
>> grip 10 ply tires, you rarely need low range for anything. This is the
>> way I like my 4x4 geared so low range is used when you need a slower
>> speed, not because you are so over geared that you cannot do much
>> without it off road.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
>
>

Mike Romain

He can't do that Bill, he has stated the piece of junk he owns 'IF' he
even owns a Jeep will explode if he even tries to spin the tires a
little in reverse to unwind a bind.

His vehicle is a non street legal, due to rot and neglect, driveway
snowplow.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Maybe, if you show us some pictures of your Jeep doing something, like
> Mike's pictures at: http://----------.com/mikeRomain/ Or doing some climbs,
> like mine: http://----------.com/68jeep.jpg or:
> http://----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg or: http://----------.com/pismo.htm And
> not an example of your poor workmanship, a YJ that doesn't even have an air
> cleaner: http://----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:6db67393mqvr11e7m6c9inp6ubn6lgbmtu@4ax.com...
>>
>> Again the reason for this is that there is a LOT of guys out there
>> like Mike Romain that act like "experts" and know it all and tell you
>> to install lifts and big tires and keep stock gears and so what if you
>> loose 5th and need low range all the time. (hello, this is telling you
>> that you have a gear ratio problem) It is mentallity like this that
>> causes this hype about it being a bad motor because many think the
>> solution is a tune, bigger carb or custom exhaust and if that fails, a
>> bigger engine rather than realize that deeper gears will help a LOT
>> more overall. (not just a opinion but rather the physics of it all
>> too) I knew a guy that had a old YJ with a 4 banger and 35's and 5.13
>> gears in it and he beat the heck out of it off road and it held up and
>> surprized many as to what it would do and where it would go. He
>> finially killed the motor when he hydrolocked it and busted it when he
>> sunk it unexpectadly. BTW, it had over 150K on it too.
>>
>> One day I may buy one more Jeep (I have owned over a dozen 4x4's in
>> over 35 years and four of them Jeeps) I what to find a old clean YJ
>> one of the last years built with a 4 banger that has not been lifted
>> and do a mild lift and runs maybe some 33's andwith some 4.88's or so
>> in it and just play around with it. It will not be a daily driver.
>> BTW, I have a old and now rare J20 Jeep truck that I have owned for
>> almost 22 years now that is still 100% stock and it is a beast. With
>> its 4.10 gears and 360 V8 with stock sized bias plied nasty traction
>> grip 10 ply tires, you rarely need low range for anything. This is the
>> way I like my 4x4 geared so low range is used when you need a slower
>> speed, not because you are so over geared that you cannot do much
>> without it off road.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
>
>

Mike Romain

He can't do that Bill, he has stated the piece of junk he owns 'IF' he
even owns a Jeep will explode if he even tries to spin the tires a
little in reverse to unwind a bind.

His vehicle is a non street legal, due to rot and neglect, driveway
snowplow.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Maybe, if you show us some pictures of your Jeep doing something, like
> Mike's pictures at: http://----------.com/mikeRomain/ Or doing some climbs,
> like mine: http://----------.com/68jeep.jpg or:
> http://----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg or: http://----------.com/pismo.htm And
> not an example of your poor workmanship, a YJ that doesn't even have an air
> cleaner: http://----------.com/temp/bill_is_wrong.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:6db67393mqvr11e7m6c9inp6ubn6lgbmtu@4ax.com...
>>
>> Again the reason for this is that there is a LOT of guys out there
>> like Mike Romain that act like "experts" and know it all and tell you
>> to install lifts and big tires and keep stock gears and so what if you
>> loose 5th and need low range all the time. (hello, this is telling you
>> that you have a gear ratio problem) It is mentallity like this that
>> causes this hype about it being a bad motor because many think the
>> solution is a tune, bigger carb or custom exhaust and if that fails, a
>> bigger engine rather than realize that deeper gears will help a LOT
>> more overall. (not just a opinion but rather the physics of it all
>> too) I knew a guy that had a old YJ with a 4 banger and 35's and 5.13
>> gears in it and he beat the heck out of it off road and it held up and
>> surprized many as to what it would do and where it would go. He
>> finially killed the motor when he hydrolocked it and busted it when he
>> sunk it unexpectadly. BTW, it had over 150K on it too.
>>
>> One day I may buy one more Jeep (I have owned over a dozen 4x4's in
>> over 35 years and four of them Jeeps) I what to find a old clean YJ
>> one of the last years built with a 4 banger that has not been lifted
>> and do a mild lift and runs maybe some 33's andwith some 4.88's or so
>> in it and just play around with it. It will not be a daily driver.
>> BTW, I have a old and now rare J20 Jeep truck that I have owned for
>> almost 22 years now that is still 100% stock and it is a beast. With
>> its 4.10 gears and 360 V8 with stock sized bias plied nasty traction
>> grip 10 ply tires, you rarely need low range for anything. This is the
>> way I like my 4x4 geared so low range is used when you need a slower
>> speed, not because you are so over geared that you cannot do much
>> without it off road.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
>
>