General Comment
 

Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the next
couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I just
hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
changes have been made in the Jeep line.

Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read for
the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their concept
pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.

But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery getter
line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing major
changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.

Coasty

Re: General Comment
 

It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity by
now too!

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I
just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing
major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity by
now too!

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I
just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing
major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity by
now too!

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I
just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing
major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal age
to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8, YJ
and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep. I
do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.

chris
83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ

--
"People are more violently opposed to fur
than leather because it's easier to pick
on rich old ladies than a biker gang"
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
> next couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable
> I just hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when
> so many changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
> for the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
> concept pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
> getter line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while
> makeing major changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should
> be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: General Comment
 

I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal age
to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8, YJ
and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep. I
do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.

chris
83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ

--
"People are more violently opposed to fur
than leather because it's easier to pick
on rich old ladies than a biker gang"
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
> next couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable
> I just hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when
> so many changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
> for the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
> concept pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
> getter line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while
> makeing major changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should
> be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: General Comment
 

I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal age
to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8, YJ
and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep. I
do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.

chris
83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ

--
"People are more violently opposed to fur
than leather because it's easier to pick
on rich old ladies than a biker gang"
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:wPOdnQR-7Isl707eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the
> next couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable
> I just hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when
> so many changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read
> for the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their
> concept pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery
> getter line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while
> makeing major changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should
> be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: General Comment
 

So with the '07 Wrangler being drastically changed, how long will it take
for a "mint" '06 Rubi to become a collectors item?

If I had unlimited wealth, I might just purchase one and store it for 10
years.

Tom (dreaming again)

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d38890$0$3106$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
> collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
> headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
> springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
> again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity
by
> now too!
>
> Earle

Re: General Comment
 

So with the '07 Wrangler being drastically changed, how long will it take
for a "mint" '06 Rubi to become a collectors item?

If I had unlimited wealth, I might just purchase one and store it for 10
years.

Tom (dreaming again)

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d38890$0$3106$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
> collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
> headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
> springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
> again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity
by
> now too!
>
> Earle

Re: General Comment
 

So with the '07 Wrangler being drastically changed, how long will it take
for a "mint" '06 Rubi to become a collectors item?

If I had unlimited wealth, I might just purchase one and store it for 10
years.

Tom (dreaming again)

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d38890$0$3106$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It makes whatever you have now all the more valuable, sentiment and
> collector wise. Just think, I have one of the limited run of rectangular
> headlight short wheel base Jeeps! With overhead valve engine, and leaf
> springs on all four corners, you won't see that in your dealer show room
> again. I'll bet that vacuum thingy on the front axle is a real curiosity
by
> now too!
>
> Earle

Re: General Comment
 

Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

"jduchock" <jduchock@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:FtNAf.2574$5O2.2365@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal
age
> to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8,
YJ
> and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep.
I
> do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.
>
> chris
> 83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ
>
> --
> "People are more violently opposed to fur
> than leather because it's easier to pick
> on rich old ladies than a biker gang"

Re: General Comment
 

Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

"jduchock" <jduchock@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:FtNAf.2574$5O2.2365@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal
age
> to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8,
YJ
> and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep.
I
> do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.
>
> chris
> 83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ
>
> --
> "People are more violently opposed to fur
> than leather because it's easier to pick
> on rich old ladies than a biker gang"

Re: General Comment
 

Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

"jduchock" <jduchock@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:FtNAf.2574$5O2.2365@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> I asked my youngest daughter what Jeep she wanted when she was of legal
age
> to drive. First words were "not one of the new ones". She likes my CJ8,
YJ
> and 89 GW. Sadly this very well ,may be the direction DC is taking Jeep.
I
> do like the concept truck. If it is built we'll just have to wait and see.
>
> chris
> 83CJ8, 94YJ, 89GW, 92XJ, 90XJ,86XJ, DJ5, 91XJ
>
> --
> "People are more violently opposed to fur
> than leather because it's easier to pick
> on rich old ladies than a biker gang"

Re: General Comment
 

Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
Jeepster
Commando
Pacer
Eagle

Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
Jeepster
Commando
Pacer
Eagle

Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!

Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
Jeepster
Commando
Pacer
Eagle

Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

WRONG! Willys didn't call their Jeepster a Jeep:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1940-19...r-Yellow-F.htm
Kaiser didn't call their Jeepster Commando a Jeep:
http://www.usedwillysparts.com/image...tercomando.jpg
AMC didn't call the Eagle a Jeep:
http://www.sheldonaubut.com/eagle/diary/brocure1b.jpg
And the Pacer was of course just a other American Motor Corp.
Rambler model.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> > Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
> products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
> right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
> all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
> real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

WRONG! Willys didn't call their Jeepster a Jeep:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1940-19...r-Yellow-F.htm
Kaiser didn't call their Jeepster Commando a Jeep:
http://www.usedwillysparts.com/image...tercomando.jpg
AMC didn't call the Eagle a Jeep:
http://www.sheldonaubut.com/eagle/diary/brocure1b.jpg
And the Pacer was of course just a other American Motor Corp.
Rambler model.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> > Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
> products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
> right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
> all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
> real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

WRONG! Willys didn't call their Jeepster a Jeep:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1940-19...r-Yellow-F.htm
Kaiser didn't call their Jeepster Commando a Jeep:
http://www.usedwillysparts.com/image...tercomando.jpg
AMC didn't call the Eagle a Jeep:
http://www.sheldonaubut.com/eagle/diary/brocure1b.jpg
And the Pacer was of course just a other American Motor Corp.
Rambler model.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
> > Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin'
> products (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own
> right?). Of course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC
> all they need to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the
> real Jeep (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
years.

He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
more than the car cost to purchase new.


"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:_aednbT4o4cA0EneRVn-sw@rcn.net...
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
>> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin' products
> (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own right?). Of
> course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC all they need
> to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the real Jeep
> (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
years.

He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
more than the car cost to purchase new.


"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:_aednbT4o4cA0EneRVn-sw@rcn.net...
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
>> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin' products
> (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own right?). Of
> course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC all they need
> to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the real Jeep
> (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
years.

He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
more than the car cost to purchase new.


"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:_aednbT4o4cA0EneRVn-sw@rcn.net...
> Edward L. Dowdy wrote:
>> Have you seen the Compass? Ugh!
>
> Yeah but you could say that about past Jeep/AMC's "have you seen the":
> Jeepster
> Commando
> Pacer
> Eagle
>
> Those are all some funny lookin, not-sure-what-they-were-thinkin' products
> (And I know some of you love the first two, to each their own right?). Of
> course that liniage of failed "tweener" Jeeps should tel DC all they need
> to know, but they'll repeate history... It didn't kill the real Jeep
> (sorry Bill) the first four times it's not going to now...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: General Comment
 

What gave up?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
> years.
>
> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

What gave up?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
> years.
>
> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

What gave up?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of 3
> years.
>
> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up to
> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

That's pretty much what I was saying in the "NOT for dirt" thread.

As for Jeep just tweaking things from time to time, I suspect that was
less a marketing decision and more a result of poverty. Jeep in its
many incarnations seldom had enough cash on hand to retool the lines.
That's why you got CJ bodies with punched holes and screwed-on cover
plates that went to nothing: They were originally for access to
equipment that had been relocated production-years earlier.


Coasty wrote:
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

That's pretty much what I was saying in the "NOT for dirt" thread.

As for Jeep just tweaking things from time to time, I suspect that was
less a marketing decision and more a result of poverty. Jeep in its
many incarnations seldom had enough cash on hand to retool the lines.
That's why you got CJ bodies with punched holes and screwed-on cover
plates that went to nothing: They were originally for access to
equipment that had been relocated production-years earlier.


Coasty wrote:
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

That's pretty much what I was saying in the "NOT for dirt" thread.

As for Jeep just tweaking things from time to time, I suspect that was
less a marketing decision and more a result of poverty. Jeep in its
many incarnations seldom had enough cash on hand to retool the lines.
That's why you got CJ bodies with punched holes and screwed-on cover
plates that went to nothing: They were originally for access to
equipment that had been relocated production-years earlier.


Coasty wrote:
> Jeep in the past couple of years sure has changed their models and the next
> couple sure do not look any different. I guess change is inevitable I just
> hope they just don't totally hose things up. I can't remember when so many
> changes have been made in the Jeep line.
>
> Usually Jeep would just tweak things but from what I have seen and read for
> the future this is just the beginning I just hope Jeep brings their concept
> pick-up truck into production that I saw at last years auto show.
>
> But, from their trends I think they are concentrating on the grocery getter
> line, trying to compete with Tahoe, Explorer and Hummer, while makeing major
> changes to the Wranglers. The next couple of years should be interesting.
>
> Coasty
>
>

Re: General Comment
 

For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
from the newer ones.

Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
that change.

On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
might have otherwise.

Ralph

Re: General Comment
 

For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
from the newer ones.

Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
that change.

On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
might have otherwise.

Ralph

Re: General Comment
 

For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
from the newer ones.

Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
that change.

On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
might have otherwise.

Ralph

Re: General Comment
 

I think the answer probably is that the lawyers want the vehicle made more
stable on-road to lessen the likelihood of rollovers. They (corporate
lawyers) have no real interest in the lessening of the off-road utility.


"Pumper Hinkle" <pumperhinkle@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_7Bf.2348$Dk.1804@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
> usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
> wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
> from the newer ones.
>
> Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
> that change.
>
> On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
> might have otherwise.
>
> Ralph
>

Re: General Comment
 

I think the answer probably is that the lawyers want the vehicle made more
stable on-road to lessen the likelihood of rollovers. They (corporate
lawyers) have no real interest in the lessening of the off-road utility.


"Pumper Hinkle" <pumperhinkle@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_7Bf.2348$Dk.1804@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
> usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
> wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
> from the newer ones.
>
> Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
> that change.
>
> On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
> might have otherwise.
>
> Ralph
>

Re: General Comment
 

I think the answer probably is that the lawyers want the vehicle made more
stable on-road to lessen the likelihood of rollovers. They (corporate
lawyers) have no real interest in the lessening of the off-road utility.


"Pumper Hinkle" <pumperhinkle@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_7Bf.2348$Dk.1804@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> For serious and semi-serious trailing here out west, a narrow body is
> usually advantageous and sometimes necessary. I notice the '07 will be
> wider. Seems to me that the serious rock-crawler people might shy away
> from the newer ones.
>
> Jeeps were meant to get back in to where others couldn't and I hate to see
> that change.
>
> On the other hand, I think my '04 Ruby may not depreciate as fast as it
> might have otherwise.
>
> Ralph
>

Re: General Comment
 

I was gone those years except for a couple trips home so I don't know the
history in depth. I did drive it once to the airport as was impressed at
the road manners of the AWD.

My Dad drove 30-35K miles a year and was good about scheduled maintenance so
it wasn't the cost that bothered him as much as the unreliability

I seem to recall him saying after a breakdown (No Start) and tow to the AMC
dealership they would do "a tune up" and then he would be good again for a
while when it would happen again.

Did these things have a Crank Sensor?

I'll send him an e-mail and ask what he recalls..






"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D483F3.CEC5FFD1@cox.net...
> What gave up?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of
>> 3
>> years.
>>
>> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
>> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up
>> to
>> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

I was gone those years except for a couple trips home so I don't know the
history in depth. I did drive it once to the airport as was impressed at
the road manners of the AWD.

My Dad drove 30-35K miles a year and was good about scheduled maintenance so
it wasn't the cost that bothered him as much as the unreliability

I seem to recall him saying after a breakdown (No Start) and tow to the AMC
dealership they would do "a tune up" and then he would be good again for a
while when it would happen again.

Did these things have a Crank Sensor?

I'll send him an e-mail and ask what he recalls..






"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D483F3.CEC5FFD1@cox.net...
> What gave up?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of
>> 3
>> years.
>>
>> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
>> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up
>> to
>> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

I was gone those years except for a couple trips home so I don't know the
history in depth. I did drive it once to the airport as was impressed at
the road manners of the AWD.

My Dad drove 30-35K miles a year and was good about scheduled maintenance so
it wasn't the cost that bothered him as much as the unreliability

I seem to recall him saying after a breakdown (No Start) and tow to the AMC
dealership they would do "a tune up" and then he would be good again for a
while when it would happen again.

Did these things have a Crank Sensor?

I'll send him an e-mail and ask what he recalls..






"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D483F3.CEC5FFD1@cox.net...
> What gave up?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> My dad had one of the AWD Eagles when they first came out for a period of
>> 3
>> years.
>>
>> He told me when he made the decision to trade it in (company car) when he
>> added up the repair receipts and the repairs during years 2 & 3 added up
>> to
>> more than the car cost to purchase new.

Re: General Comment
 

Yup. Probably most likely. Shame, though.

Re: General Comment
 

Yup. Probably most likely. Shame, though.

Re: General Comment
 

Yup. Probably most likely. Shame, though.