GC Tranny Issues
 

I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of leaking.
Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on again.
We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on to
NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid in
a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny started
acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to front
pump pressure I was told.
Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of driving
when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for about
30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
its issues shifted quieter & smoother.

Question:
1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its like
slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.

Frustrated!

glb1@imagesbyglb.com

Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/

Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

It surprises me it even moves with more than one pint down. Driving any
distance would burn up the clutches and "O" rings quickly. It's like one of
the normal things to do in a pre check, for a trip, or what every truck
driver signs off everyday. Figure it's a three thousand dollar lesson.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>



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Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

It surprises me it even moves with more than one pint down. Driving any
distance would burn up the clutches and "O" rings quickly. It's like one of
the normal things to do in a pre check, for a trip, or what every truck
driver signs off everyday. Figure it's a three thousand dollar lesson.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>



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Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

It surprises me it even moves with more than one pint down. Driving any
distance would burn up the clutches and "O" rings quickly. It's like one of
the normal things to do in a pre check, for a trip, or what every truck
driver signs off everyday. Figure it's a three thousand dollar lesson.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>



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Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

It surprises me it even moves with more than one pint down. Driving any
distance would burn up the clutches and "O" rings quickly. It's like one of
the normal things to do in a pre check, for a trip, or what every truck
driver signs off everyday. Figure it's a three thousand dollar lesson.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>



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Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

How many miles since your last transmission service? Did you check the
tranny fluid yourself between January and March?

"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
> leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
> again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
> to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
> in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
> started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
> front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
> driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
> about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
> like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>

Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

How many miles since your last transmission service? Did you check the
tranny fluid yourself between January and March?

"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
> leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
> again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
> to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
> in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
> started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
> front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
> driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
> about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
> like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>

Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

How many miles since your last transmission service? Did you check the
tranny fluid yourself between January and March?

"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
> leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
> again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
> to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
> in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
> started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
> front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
> driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
> about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
> like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>

Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

How many miles since your last transmission service? Did you check the
tranny fluid yourself between January and March?

"GLB" <glb1@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
> leaking.
> Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
> again.
> We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
> to
> NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
> in
> a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
> started
> acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
> front
> pump pressure I was told.
> Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
> driving
> when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
> about
> 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> Question:
> 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
> like
> slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> Frustrated!
>
> glb1@imagesbyglb.com
>
> Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/
>
>
>
>

Re: GC Tranny Issues
 

On Oct 2, 4:23 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> How many miles since your last transmission service? Did you check the
> tranny fluid yourself between January and March?
>
> "GLB" <g...@imagesbyglb.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4701c370$0$18931$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
> >I have a 2001 GC 45RFE transmission with the 4.7 V8.
> > Had a trans flush in January at the Jeep dealer.
> > Up to March the fluid was ok per Jeep when it was in for other repairs,
> > honestly I didn't check because it never showed any indications of
> > leaking.
> > Beginning of June we headed out of town pulling a small trailer. Half hour
> > out the trans temp light comes on and check engine light. Putting it in
> > neutral and running it turned off the trans temp light but it came on
> > again.
> > We headed home to swap out the truck for my wifes GC and we continued on
> > to
> > NC from FL without the trailer. Upon return I took the truck to Jeep and
> > they said it was 3 quarts low of fluid. Somehow I LOST, 3 quarts of fluid
> > in
> > a couple months without any dripping from the pan or spraying back behind
> > the tailshaft. Hmmm . . . .
> > They cleared the codes, pulled the LEAKING pan, replaced both filters and
> > reinstalled the pan. Everything was fine for awhile. Then the tranny
> > started
> > acting up again, not shifting right and the fan would come on at a light
> > like it was hot. No temp light but it threw a couple codes relating to
> > front
> > pump pressure I was told.
> > Jeep wanted almost 4k for a MOPAR tranny, 3 year 80k warranty. A local
> > tranny shop put one in (MOPAR, same tranny) for 1k less. 2nd day of
> > driving
> > when it was put in gear when cold the tranny would slip like crazy for
> > about
> > 30 seconds untill I assume pressure built up and the torque converter
> > engaged properly. Once warm it shifted OK but honestly my old tranny with
> > its issues shifted quieter & smoother.
>
> > Question:
> > 1) Would driving it 3 quarts low cause a problem with the "Front Pump"?
> > 2) What would cause the NEW tranny to slip so much when first engaged?
> > I can rev the engine with the tranny engaged (drive or reverse) and its
> > like
> > slipping a clutch on a stick shift without the truck hardly moving. This
> > only lasts like I said about 20-30 seconds.
>
> > Frustrated!
>
> > g...@imagesbyglb.com
>
> > Pet friendly Vacation in the Smokies
> >http://www.deepcreekhideaway.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

GLB,

Sounds fishy. Like Bill, I have to raise an eyebrow at the 3 qt.
figure. Oh well, that's ancient history, right?

Are you _positive_ that it is a brand new unit, and not a factory
reman'd unit? When I was looking at options a little over a year ago,
the dealer told me I couldn't get a new trans -- all they used were
"factory" reman'd units. Hearsay for both of us, I suppose.

Why do I ask? While a lag on shift from P to D or R is not unheard of
for this trans, it's far more common to see on a high mileage unit....
20-30 seconds is a _long_ time for that kind of lag, no matter how
many miles.....do you get that much delay on every cold or first start
of the day? If the problem is lessened by putting the transmission in
neutral for a few seconds before shifting to D or R, you're showing
signs of a worn or seized front pump bushing...

At any rate, with your symptom and your investment, I'd be heading
straight back to the transmission shop......

Jon