Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
> > She really needs an automotive education.
> >
> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
> >
> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure
> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
> >
> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has
> > only the emergency brake left.
> >
> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
> > Does the emergency brake work?
> >
>
> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>
> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
> using the Emergency Brake to park.

Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....

The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.

The number of wheel fires and destroyed brake and wheel bearing systems
I have seen from this is too many to count.

I have even had friends use my 'emergency' brake as a 'parking' brake
over the years and have had 4 or 5 (that I can remember fast) destroyed
rear brake systems because of it 'including' the one on my CJ7 and my
Cherokee.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
> > She really needs an automotive education.
> >
> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
> >
> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure
> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
> >
> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has
> > only the emergency brake left.
> >
> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
> > Does the emergency brake work?
> >
>
> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>
> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
> using the Emergency Brake to park.

Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....

The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.

The number of wheel fires and destroyed brake and wheel bearing systems
I have seen from this is too many to count.

I have even had friends use my 'emergency' brake as a 'parking' brake
over the years and have had 4 or 5 (that I can remember fast) destroyed
rear brake systems because of it 'including' the one on my CJ7 and my
Cherokee.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
> > She really needs an automotive education.
> >
> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
> >
> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure
> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
> >
> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has
> > only the emergency brake left.
> >
> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
> > Does the emergency brake work?
> >
>
> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>
> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
> using the Emergency Brake to park.

Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....

The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.

The number of wheel fires and destroyed brake and wheel bearing systems
I have seen from this is too many to count.

I have even had friends use my 'emergency' brake as a 'parking' brake
over the years and have had 4 or 5 (that I can remember fast) destroyed
rear brake systems because of it 'including' the one on my CJ7 and my
Cherokee.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

That can be adjusted Jeff. The switch at the bottom of the steering
column has slots to set it properly.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
> I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn
> the Brake light off.
>
> This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level
> and/or the brake system in general.
>
> "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > '94 GC 160k miles.
> >
> > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on.
> >
> > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned
> > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or
> > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc.
> >
> > Thought appreciated. Thx
> >
> > Chip L
> >

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

That can be adjusted Jeff. The switch at the bottom of the steering
column has slots to set it properly.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
> I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn
> the Brake light off.
>
> This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level
> and/or the brake system in general.
>
> "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > '94 GC 160k miles.
> >
> > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on.
> >
> > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned
> > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or
> > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc.
> >
> > Thought appreciated. Thx
> >
> > Chip L
> >

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

That can be adjusted Jeff. The switch at the bottom of the steering
column has slots to set it properly.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
> I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn
> the Brake light off.
>
> This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level
> and/or the brake system in general.
>
> "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > '94 GC 160k miles.
> >
> > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on.
> >
> > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned
> > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or
> > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc.
> >
> > Thought appreciated. Thx
> >
> > Chip L
> >

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
> the least.

I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes
for commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do
an entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at
what I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!

Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this problem.

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
> the least.

I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes
for commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do
an entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at
what I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!

Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this problem.

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
> the least.

I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes
for commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do
an entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at
what I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!

Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this problem.

Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake.

LOL! Try using the 'Emergency Brake' sometime to actually stop a
vehicle in an emergency, and SEE how much worse the emergency becomes.