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'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
'94 GC 160k miles.
Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. Thought appreciated. Thx Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Low fluid in master cylinder?
Spdloader "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Low fluid in master cylinder?
Spdloader "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Low fluid in master cylinder?
Spdloader "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. It's probably not the E-brake switch; more likely the differential pressure switch in the master cylinder, indicating partial hydraulic system failure. This is not a good thing and should be remedied quickly. Sometimes these switches must be physically 'reset' after a MC problem has already been repaired. You can check this by pulling the wire harness from the switch to see if the light goes out. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. It's probably not the E-brake switch; more likely the differential pressure switch in the master cylinder, indicating partial hydraulic system failure. This is not a good thing and should be remedied quickly. Sometimes these switches must be physically 'reset' after a MC problem has already been repaired. You can check this by pulling the wire harness from the switch to see if the light goes out. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. It's probably not the E-brake switch; more likely the differential pressure switch in the master cylinder, indicating partial hydraulic system failure. This is not a good thing and should be remedied quickly. Sometimes these switches must be physically 'reset' after a MC problem has already been repaired. You can check this by pulling the wire harness from the switch to see if the light goes out. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. The big red BRAKE light comes on if the parking brake is on -or- 1) There is a leak in the front or rear brake system and the proportioning/safety valve has shut down that side 2) brake fluid is low or brake linings are almost worn out. I'd start by checking the fluid level and then the disc and drum brakes for wear or fluid. -- DougW |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. The big red BRAKE light comes on if the parking brake is on -or- 1) There is a leak in the front or rear brake system and the proportioning/safety valve has shut down that side 2) brake fluid is low or brake linings are almost worn out. I'd start by checking the fluid level and then the disc and drum brakes for wear or fluid. -- DougW |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. The big red BRAKE light comes on if the parking brake is on -or- 1) There is a leak in the front or rear brake system and the proportioning/safety valve has shut down that side 2) brake fluid is low or brake linings are almost worn out. I'd start by checking the fluid level and then the disc and drum brakes for wear or fluid. -- DougW |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
As the others mentioned it could be a brake failure warning. In my one
experience it was a master cylinder seal failure between the front and rear brake systems. In my WJ the switch was bad. Note the "down-home' redneck engineering. http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2104237649` "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
As the others mentioned it could be a brake failure warning. In my one
experience it was a master cylinder seal failure between the front and rear brake systems. In my WJ the switch was bad. Note the "down-home' redneck engineering. http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2104237649` "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
As the others mentioned it could be a brake failure warning. In my one
experience it was a master cylinder seal failure between the front and rear brake systems. In my WJ the switch was bad. Note the "down-home' redneck engineering. http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2104237649` "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system.
My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall break. I'm sure thats it.. Chip L Chip L wrote: > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system.
My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall break. I'm sure thats it.. Chip L Chip L wrote: > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system.
My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall break. I'm sure thats it.. Chip L Chip L wrote: > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
There might be a leak or the brake pads worn dangerously thin if the fluid
was that low.. Get them checked soon. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: >> '94 GC 160k miles. >> >> Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. >> >> Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned >> and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or >> off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. >> >> Thought appreciated. Thx >> >> Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
There might be a leak or the brake pads worn dangerously thin if the fluid
was that low.. Get them checked soon. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: >> '94 GC 160k miles. >> >> Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. >> >> Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned >> and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or >> off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. >> >> Thought appreciated. Thx >> >> Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
There might be a leak or the brake pads worn dangerously thin if the fluid
was that low.. Get them checked soon. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: >> '94 GC 160k miles. >> >> Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. >> >> Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned >> and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or >> off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. >> >> Thought appreciated. Thx >> >> Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring driver. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring driver. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Chip L wrote:
> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring driver. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
She really needs an automotive education.
When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure there 'very' soon after one goes dry. When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has only the emergency brake left. Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? Does the emergency brake work? There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator light. The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon after. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Chip L wrote: > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
She really needs an automotive education.
When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure there 'very' soon after one goes dry. When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has only the emergency brake left. Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? Does the emergency brake work? There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator light. The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon after. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Chip L wrote: > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
She really needs an automotive education.
When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure there 'very' soon after one goes dry. When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has only the emergency brake left. Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? Does the emergency brake work? There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator light. The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon after. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Chip L wrote: > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > > Chip L > > Chip L wrote: > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Good points all.
We've owned this car since '94. It was OK when she was driving around our small town (high school was a mile away). She is now 2 hours f/ home and uses this 13 year old car to commute and go on weekend trips. I have not been comfortable with her driving the car for several months. I bought a '99 GC w/ 115k miles last week which we are picking up tomorrow AM. Mechanically, it seems to be a much better car than the '94 has been in a long time (if ever). The service and CarFax check out. I really appreciate all your input. Only problem now is that when I pulled the plastic sensor out at the master cylinder, I stripped the entire end off while reinstalling. So the metal plunger and plastic thread are in the master cylinder, but the nut and terminal have torn off. At least I have a few days to get it out.... Chip L Mike Romain wrote: > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > > There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil > light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator > light. > > The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. > > I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that > what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one > quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon > after. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Chip L wrote: > > > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > > break. > > > > I'm sure thats it.. > > > > Chip L > > > > Chip L wrote: > > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Good points all.
We've owned this car since '94. It was OK when she was driving around our small town (high school was a mile away). She is now 2 hours f/ home and uses this 13 year old car to commute and go on weekend trips. I have not been comfortable with her driving the car for several months. I bought a '99 GC w/ 115k miles last week which we are picking up tomorrow AM. Mechanically, it seems to be a much better car than the '94 has been in a long time (if ever). The service and CarFax check out. I really appreciate all your input. Only problem now is that when I pulled the plastic sensor out at the master cylinder, I stripped the entire end off while reinstalling. So the metal plunger and plastic thread are in the master cylinder, but the nut and terminal have torn off. At least I have a few days to get it out.... Chip L Mike Romain wrote: > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > > There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil > light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator > light. > > The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. > > I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that > what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one > quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon > after. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Chip L wrote: > > > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > > break. > > > > I'm sure thats it.. > > > > Chip L > > > > Chip L wrote: > > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
Good points all.
We've owned this car since '94. It was OK when she was driving around our small town (high school was a mile away). She is now 2 hours f/ home and uses this 13 year old car to commute and go on weekend trips. I have not been comfortable with her driving the car for several months. I bought a '99 GC w/ 115k miles last week which we are picking up tomorrow AM. Mechanically, it seems to be a much better car than the '94 has been in a long time (if ever). The service and CarFax check out. I really appreciate all your input. Only problem now is that when I pulled the plastic sensor out at the master cylinder, I stripped the entire end off while reinstalling. So the metal plunger and plastic thread are in the master cylinder, but the nut and terminal have torn off. At least I have a few days to get it out.... Chip L Mike Romain wrote: > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > > There are other red lights that mean 'stop now' too. One is the oil > light another is the temperature light and the other is the alternator > light. > > The oil and temp can mean engine failure if the vehicle is still driven. > > I borrowed a niece's vehicle once and the oil light was on. 'oh is that > what that means' was her response as we figured there was only one > quart left in the now destroyed engine. It went to the scrap yard soon > after. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Chip L wrote: > > > > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > > break. > > > > I'm sure thats it.. > > > > Chip L > > > > Chip L wrote: > > > '94 GC 160k miles. > > > > > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > > > > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > > > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > > > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > > > > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > > > > > Chip L |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn the Brake light off. This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level and/or the brake system in general. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn the Brake light off. This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level and/or the brake system in general. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
My CJ5 turns the light on depending on the position of the ignition switch.
I have to physically roll the switch towards OFF (away from START) to turn the Brake light off. This light is also used to indicate a problem with the brake fluid level and/or the brake system in general. "Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164300739.233527.53200@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > '94 GC 160k miles. > > Dash emergency brake light indicator always on. > > Pulled armrest box to get to switch at emergency brake arm. Cleaned > and adjusted to ensure contact. Light still on whether brake on or > off, whether terminal is on or off at switc. > > Thought appreciated. Thx > > Chip L > |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > Me too. IF IT HAS SUCKED AIR, then you need to bleed the system before the brakes will be reliable again. By your description, it HAS sucked air. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > Me too. IF IT HAS SUCKED AIR, then you need to bleed the system before the brakes will be reliable again. By your description, it HAS sucked air. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Chip L" <chiplong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1164325668.417033.299060@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com... > thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. > My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie > no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall > break. > > I'm sure thats it.. > Me too. IF IT HAS SUCKED AIR, then you need to bleed the system before the brakes will be reliable again. By your description, it HAS sucked air. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:w6GdnUe7-L8IqvvYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@softcom.net... > Chip L wrote: > >> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. >> My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie >> no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall >> break. > > Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes > are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master > cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have > everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. > > Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking > system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. > > Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all > important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to > be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to > have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring > driver. I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say the least. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:w6GdnUe7-L8IqvvYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@softcom.net... > Chip L wrote: > >> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. >> My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie >> no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall >> break. > > Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes > are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master > cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have > everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. > > Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking > system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. > > Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all > important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to > be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to > have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring > driver. I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say the least. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:w6GdnUe7-L8IqvvYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@softcom.net... > Chip L wrote: > >> thanks all. Didn't realize that it was tied into the hydraulic system. >> My daughter has had the car at college and it was VERY low on fluid (ie >> no fluid visible) in one of the vessels when she came home for fall >> break. > > Mystery solved. If no fluid is visible, there may be a leak or the brakes > are extremely worn and require replacement. The seals in the master > cylinder may have also been damaged from the lack of fluid. Have > everything examined and serviced before she drives it again. > > Something for you to ponder as a FAR more important issue than the braking > system on her Jeep: the need to regularly check vital fluids. > > Take her aside for 10 mins, open the hood, and show her how to check all > important fluid levels, then have her do it while you're standing there to > be sure she knows how. This is a very important skill for young ladies to > have, and it is an important lesson that parents should teach any aspiring > driver. I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say the least. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca... > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?" There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and using the Emergency Brake to park. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca... > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?" There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and using the Emergency Brake to park. |
Re: 'GC - Emergency Brake Light always on...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca... > She really needs an automotive education. > > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure. > > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total' failure > there 'very' soon after one goes dry. > > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle has > only the emergency brake left. > > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake? > Does the emergency brake work? > It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?" There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and using the Emergency Brake to park. |
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