Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

Hi Marc,
And you will get the fault code, several more times, just unscrew
the cap and put it back on straight without the bind, and wait for the
engine to cycle from cold to normal operating temperature for the
warning light to go out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Marc wrote:
>
> I just got a 0442 on my 01' WJ and it was the darned gas cap. $10.95
> later from the dealer and my problem was fixed :)

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
especially in the common codes.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42377A86.98022FE3@cox.net...
> That's the flaw in your thinking, the Cherokee is not Japanese,
> yet.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Actually, no, it is a Toyota Truck. But the OBDII information on this
site,
> > http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/, says that all vehicles use mostly
the
> > same codes. So, if a vehicle makes a P0440, then all vehicles that make
the
> > code have the same problem and all vehicles that have the problem make
the
> > same code. There are some codes that are manufacturer specific, and I am
> > ignoring these for the moment.
> >
> > Having said that, I notice several descrepancies in the link I posted
and
> > the one you posted so I must not fully understand all that I think I
know.
> >
> > All I was saying is that in the link you posted, there is a code, P0439
that
> > says two different things. The second thing it says is really code
P0440. I
> > am sure this is nothing more than a typo on the part of whomever created
the
> > list, and the proofreaders were simply dizzy from all of the data that
looks
> > nearly identical from one line to the next.
> >
> > And, it turns out my daughter's gas cap tossed up a 440, 441, and 446 if
> > anybody cares.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
especially in the common codes.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42377A86.98022FE3@cox.net...
> That's the flaw in your thinking, the Cherokee is not Japanese,
> yet.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Actually, no, it is a Toyota Truck. But the OBDII information on this
site,
> > http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/, says that all vehicles use mostly
the
> > same codes. So, if a vehicle makes a P0440, then all vehicles that make
the
> > code have the same problem and all vehicles that have the problem make
the
> > same code. There are some codes that are manufacturer specific, and I am
> > ignoring these for the moment.
> >
> > Having said that, I notice several descrepancies in the link I posted
and
> > the one you posted so I must not fully understand all that I think I
know.
> >
> > All I was saying is that in the link you posted, there is a code, P0439
that
> > says two different things. The second thing it says is really code
P0440. I
> > am sure this is nothing more than a typo on the part of whomever created
the
> > list, and the proofreaders were simply dizzy from all of the data that
looks
> > nearly identical from one line to the next.
> >
> > And, it turns out my daughter's gas cap tossed up a 440, 441, and 446 if
> > anybody cares.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
especially in the common codes.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42377A86.98022FE3@cox.net...
> That's the flaw in your thinking, the Cherokee is not Japanese,
> yet.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Actually, no, it is a Toyota Truck. But the OBDII information on this
site,
> > http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/, says that all vehicles use mostly
the
> > same codes. So, if a vehicle makes a P0440, then all vehicles that make
the
> > code have the same problem and all vehicles that have the problem make
the
> > same code. There are some codes that are manufacturer specific, and I am
> > ignoring these for the moment.
> >
> > Having said that, I notice several descrepancies in the link I posted
and
> > the one you posted so I must not fully understand all that I think I
know.
> >
> > All I was saying is that in the link you posted, there is a code, P0439
that
> > says two different things. The second thing it says is really code
P0440. I
> > am sure this is nothing more than a typo on the part of whomever created
the
> > list, and the proofreaders were simply dizzy from all of the data that
looks
> > nearly identical from one line to the next.
> >
> > And, it turns out my daughter's gas cap tossed up a 440, 441, and 446 if
> > anybody cares.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

Hi Jeff,
The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
> truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> especially in the common codes.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

Hi Jeff,
The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
> truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> especially in the common codes.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

Hi Jeff,
The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that the
> truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> especially in the common codes.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

I just did a quick check of that link, and it appears to say the same thing
that I have been saying.

The codes are standardized, that is all codes that start with P0 are
standardized. If a car can make a Code P01234, then P01234 means the same on
all cars that make it. Some cars can't make a P01234, but this doesn't
matter. That is, it doesn't matter what a P01234 is if the car can't make
it. If the P01234 meant the DooHicky was toast, then all cars with a
DooHicky would throw a P01234 when the DooHicky went belly up. If the car
hasn't got a DooHicky, then it will never throw a P01234. (BTW, I pulled
P01234 out of thin air to illustrate the point, it does not mean that the
DooHicky has gone belly up and I don't know or care what it really means.)

A few Fords and Mazdas have some sort of unique DooHicky, and they might
throw a P11234, and the description of the code would then tell you if you
if the error was in a Ford or a Mazda. In the P1xxxx code, the 1 means it is
a manufacturer specific code, some lists define it as an Enhanced code.
There are just a few of these unique codes, and if there is the same code
number for two different manufacturers then you can see the specific
definition in this link, http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/ (among others, I
am sure).

All I wanted you to do was look at the link that you gave us, and go to
where P0440 should be. You would notice that the Evaporative Emissions
Control System Malfunction is listed as a P0439, which is used twice in a
row. This is an obvious error, and is nothing more than a typo, and isn't
even your typo so you don't need to defend it.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42378D5A.5199E203@cox.net...
> Hi Jeff,
> The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
> manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
> about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
> it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
> telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
> http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that
the
> > truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> > especially in the common codes.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

I just did a quick check of that link, and it appears to say the same thing
that I have been saying.

The codes are standardized, that is all codes that start with P0 are
standardized. If a car can make a Code P01234, then P01234 means the same on
all cars that make it. Some cars can't make a P01234, but this doesn't
matter. That is, it doesn't matter what a P01234 is if the car can't make
it. If the P01234 meant the DooHicky was toast, then all cars with a
DooHicky would throw a P01234 when the DooHicky went belly up. If the car
hasn't got a DooHicky, then it will never throw a P01234. (BTW, I pulled
P01234 out of thin air to illustrate the point, it does not mean that the
DooHicky has gone belly up and I don't know or care what it really means.)

A few Fords and Mazdas have some sort of unique DooHicky, and they might
throw a P11234, and the description of the code would then tell you if you
if the error was in a Ford or a Mazda. In the P1xxxx code, the 1 means it is
a manufacturer specific code, some lists define it as an Enhanced code.
There are just a few of these unique codes, and if there is the same code
number for two different manufacturers then you can see the specific
definition in this link, http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/ (among others, I
am sure).

All I wanted you to do was look at the link that you gave us, and go to
where P0440 should be. You would notice that the Evaporative Emissions
Control System Malfunction is listed as a P0439, which is used twice in a
row. This is an obvious error, and is nothing more than a typo, and isn't
even your typo so you don't need to defend it.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42378D5A.5199E203@cox.net...
> Hi Jeff,
> The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
> manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
> about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
> it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
> telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
> http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that
the
> > truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> > especially in the common codes.

Re: Gas Cap vs Chk Eng Lite
 

I just did a quick check of that link, and it appears to say the same thing
that I have been saying.

The codes are standardized, that is all codes that start with P0 are
standardized. If a car can make a Code P01234, then P01234 means the same on
all cars that make it. Some cars can't make a P01234, but this doesn't
matter. That is, it doesn't matter what a P01234 is if the car can't make
it. If the P01234 meant the DooHicky was toast, then all cars with a
DooHicky would throw a P01234 when the DooHicky went belly up. If the car
hasn't got a DooHicky, then it will never throw a P01234. (BTW, I pulled
P01234 out of thin air to illustrate the point, it does not mean that the
DooHicky has gone belly up and I don't know or care what it really means.)

A few Fords and Mazdas have some sort of unique DooHicky, and they might
throw a P11234, and the description of the code would then tell you if you
if the error was in a Ford or a Mazda. In the P1xxxx code, the 1 means it is
a manufacturer specific code, some lists define it as an Enhanced code.
There are just a few of these unique codes, and if there is the same code
number for two different manufacturers then you can see the specific
definition in this link, http://www.wattora.com/Mods/OBDII/ (among others, I
am sure).

All I wanted you to do was look at the link that you gave us, and go to
where P0440 should be. You would notice that the Evaporative Emissions
Control System Malfunction is listed as a P0439, which is used twice in a
row. This is an obvious error, and is nothing more than a typo, and isn't
even your typo so you don't need to defend it.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42378D5A.5199E203@cox.net...
> Hi Jeff,
> The only then common about codes are that our government forced the
> manufactures to have an On Board Diagnostic reader. Well, except for
> about six month period Daimler, thought American were too stupid to use
> it. You may see all the different code numbers I found, thanks to you
> telling me the O was actually a zero for my Google search for P0440:
> http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That's true, but OBD II is not manufacturer specific so the fact that
the
> > truck in my driveway is a Toyota shouldn't present any differences,
> > especially in the common codes.