GK

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:gH7Rc.764$qf.672@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com.. .
> Take pics and email them to the manufacturer. Might get some
> compensation if it was installed correctly per their instructions. Was
> this a self tapping eyebolt, or was there a washer and nut on the other
> end? What brand was it?
>
>
> GK wrote:
>
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK
>
>
> --
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>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
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> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
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>

Well, it was supposed to be the better one (Not SteelHorse crap). Bought if
from www.4wd.com . It comes in two versions, manual with a come-a-long or
you can get one with what amounts to a small ATV winch attached to it for
lifting. The kit used a very large (Looks larger than .5") self tapping
eyebolt. I drilled and installed it properly in a 2x6 rafter over my garage.
I even went out and bought a cheap stud finder at Home Depot to make sure I
was right on the money. It definitely felt solid. I am 280 Lbs and could
hang from it easily. I think the whole problem may have had to do with how
the wall mounted come-a-long exerts a pretty high amount of lateral leverage
to the eyebolt, thus popping it out the side of the rafter.

Thanks,

GK

GK

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:411522B0.39E3EAEA@***.net...
> I've dropped an engine once, as a teenager, after that everything's
> been an overkill. To assist my Mother from the bathtub, I bolded though
> a cross tying a couple of rafters together without weakening those
> rafters by drilling though them: http://www.----------.com/hoistHook.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK

Bill

I have already taken the same approach today and went up in the attic and
cross braced over 3 rafters with a piece of 2x6. I bought a 12" x .5"
threaded end eyebolt that I extended up through my ceiling then through the
cross over 2x6. It is secured on both sides of the 2x6 with fender washers,
lockwashers, a nut, then a jam nut to keep everything from moving any. I
have also installed several backup eyebolts in the ceiling where all four
corners of the hard top would roughly hang. I then put 16 foot ratcheting
straps through them and hooked them under the edges of my hardtop. Even if
the pulley unit gives way now, the ratchet straps will save the day. BTW, I
found a good link at http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm .
Stu must think of absolutely everything. Thank God.

Regards,

GK

GK

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:411522B0.39E3EAEA@***.net...
> I've dropped an engine once, as a teenager, after that everything's
> been an overkill. To assist my Mother from the bathtub, I bolded though
> a cross tying a couple of rafters together without weakening those
> rafters by drilling though them: http://www.----------.com/hoistHook.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK

Bill

I have already taken the same approach today and went up in the attic and
cross braced over 3 rafters with a piece of 2x6. I bought a 12" x .5"
threaded end eyebolt that I extended up through my ceiling then through the
cross over 2x6. It is secured on both sides of the 2x6 with fender washers,
lockwashers, a nut, then a jam nut to keep everything from moving any. I
have also installed several backup eyebolts in the ceiling where all four
corners of the hard top would roughly hang. I then put 16 foot ratcheting
straps through them and hooked them under the edges of my hardtop. Even if
the pulley unit gives way now, the ratchet straps will save the day. BTW, I
found a good link at http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm .
Stu must think of absolutely everything. Thank God.

Regards,

GK

GK

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:411522B0.39E3EAEA@***.net...
> I've dropped an engine once, as a teenager, after that everything's
> been an overkill. To assist my Mother from the bathtub, I bolded though
> a cross tying a couple of rafters together without weakening those
> rafters by drilling though them: http://www.----------.com/hoistHook.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK

Bill

I have already taken the same approach today and went up in the attic and
cross braced over 3 rafters with a piece of 2x6. I bought a 12" x .5"
threaded end eyebolt that I extended up through my ceiling then through the
cross over 2x6. It is secured on both sides of the 2x6 with fender washers,
lockwashers, a nut, then a jam nut to keep everything from moving any. I
have also installed several backup eyebolts in the ceiling where all four
corners of the hard top would roughly hang. I then put 16 foot ratcheting
straps through them and hooked them under the edges of my hardtop. Even if
the pulley unit gives way now, the ratchet straps will save the day. BTW, I
found a good link at http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm .
Stu must think of absolutely everything. Thank God.

Regards,

GK

GK

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:411522B0.39E3EAEA@***.net...
> I've dropped an engine once, as a teenager, after that everything's
> been an overkill. To assist my Mother from the bathtub, I bolded though
> a cross tying a couple of rafters together without weakening those
> rafters by drilling though them: http://www.----------.com/hoistHook.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK

Bill

I have already taken the same approach today and went up in the attic and
cross braced over 3 rafters with a piece of 2x6. I bought a 12" x .5"
threaded end eyebolt that I extended up through my ceiling then through the
cross over 2x6. It is secured on both sides of the 2x6 with fender washers,
lockwashers, a nut, then a jam nut to keep everything from moving any. I
have also installed several backup eyebolts in the ceiling where all four
corners of the hard top would roughly hang. I then put 16 foot ratcheting
straps through them and hooked them under the edges of my hardtop. Even if
the pulley unit gives way now, the ratchet straps will save the day. BTW, I
found a good link at http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm .
Stu must think of absolutely everything. Thank God.

Regards,

GK

GK

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r88Rc.17254$Oz2.2561@okepread06...
> GK did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
>
>
> Personally I don't trust screw in eyebolts and hooks unless the threads
> are deep and the hole drilled properly.
>
> If you don't drill they split the wood, if you drill too much you don't
> get enough bite.
>
> If you can get to the other side I'd use a thru hole threaded eye,
> backed up with a large fender washer, a nut and a locknut (nylock or
similar).
>
> http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=13894 or similar
>
> http://bosunsupplies.com/products2.cfm?product=S0310 may work but
> I'm not terribly trusting of open loop eyebolts.
>
> Another thing to think of is putting in some safety straps at each corner
> then using them to take some load off the whole assembly. Four eyebolts
and
> a couple ratchet straps would probably be enough.
>
>
>

Thanks man, I took some of your advice and what I found at
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm and got everything fixed.
I have even got redundant ratchet straps to hold things up if the
come-a-long gave way again. Luckily, once I got the hardtop up off my TJ
today, the damage was not as bad as I thought. However, it could have been
real nasty if my Jeep had not been exactly in place under it for it to fall
on.

Thanks,

GK

GK

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r88Rc.17254$Oz2.2561@okepread06...
> GK did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
>
>
> Personally I don't trust screw in eyebolts and hooks unless the threads
> are deep and the hole drilled properly.
>
> If you don't drill they split the wood, if you drill too much you don't
> get enough bite.
>
> If you can get to the other side I'd use a thru hole threaded eye,
> backed up with a large fender washer, a nut and a locknut (nylock or
similar).
>
> http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=13894 or similar
>
> http://bosunsupplies.com/products2.cfm?product=S0310 may work but
> I'm not terribly trusting of open loop eyebolts.
>
> Another thing to think of is putting in some safety straps at each corner
> then using them to take some load off the whole assembly. Four eyebolts
and
> a couple ratchet straps would probably be enough.
>
>
>

Thanks man, I took some of your advice and what I found at
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm and got everything fixed.
I have even got redundant ratchet straps to hold things up if the
come-a-long gave way again. Luckily, once I got the hardtop up off my TJ
today, the damage was not as bad as I thought. However, it could have been
real nasty if my Jeep had not been exactly in place under it for it to fall
on.

Thanks,

GK

GK

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r88Rc.17254$Oz2.2561@okepread06...
> GK did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
>
>
> Personally I don't trust screw in eyebolts and hooks unless the threads
> are deep and the hole drilled properly.
>
> If you don't drill they split the wood, if you drill too much you don't
> get enough bite.
>
> If you can get to the other side I'd use a thru hole threaded eye,
> backed up with a large fender washer, a nut and a locknut (nylock or
similar).
>
> http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=13894 or similar
>
> http://bosunsupplies.com/products2.cfm?product=S0310 may work but
> I'm not terribly trusting of open loop eyebolts.
>
> Another thing to think of is putting in some safety straps at each corner
> then using them to take some load off the whole assembly. Four eyebolts
and
> a couple ratchet straps would probably be enough.
>
>
>

Thanks man, I took some of your advice and what I found at
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm and got everything fixed.
I have even got redundant ratchet straps to hold things up if the
come-a-long gave way again. Luckily, once I got the hardtop up off my TJ
today, the damage was not as bad as I thought. However, it could have been
real nasty if my Jeep had not been exactly in place under it for it to fall
on.

Thanks,

GK

GK

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r88Rc.17254$Oz2.2561@okepread06...
> GK did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I have had one of those come-a-long based hard top hoist kits in
my
> > garage for several years now. Anyway, the damn eye bolt decided to give
way
> > and come flying out of the rafter it was screwed into last night. My
hard
> > top dropped almost squarely down right on my TJ, but cracked some of its
> > corners near the door surround area and scratched up my paint real good.
> > Nothing too serious or hard to fix, but it pissed me off real good. I
guess
> > I can only blame myself for relying on that one eyebolt.
> >
> > Anyway, does anyone have any good links, suggestions, etc. on how I
might
> > more securely attach this hoist to the roof of my garage? I have already
> > reinforced the wall attaching area where the come-a-long hooks with a
2"x6"
> > and a huge eyebolt with washers and locknut behind the 2x6. I had
already
> > cross braced the rafters in my attic with 2x4s, but obviously the weak
link
> > was the .5" screw in eyebolt that came with the kit.
>
>
> Personally I don't trust screw in eyebolts and hooks unless the threads
> are deep and the hole drilled properly.
>
> If you don't drill they split the wood, if you drill too much you don't
> get enough bite.
>
> If you can get to the other side I'd use a thru hole threaded eye,
> backed up with a large fender washer, a nut and a locknut (nylock or
similar).
>
> http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=13894 or similar
>
> http://bosunsupplies.com/products2.cfm?product=S0310 may work but
> I'm not terribly trusting of open loop eyebolts.
>
> Another thing to think of is putting in some safety straps at each corner
> then using them to take some load off the whole assembly. Four eyebolts
and
> a couple ratchet straps would probably be enough.
>
>
>

Thanks man, I took some of your advice and what I found at
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm and got everything fixed.
I have even got redundant ratchet straps to hold things up if the
come-a-long gave way again. Luckily, once I got the hardtop up off my TJ
today, the damage was not as bad as I thought. However, it could have been
real nasty if my Jeep had not been exactly in place under it for it to fall
on.

Thanks,

GK

DougW

GK did pass the time by typing:

> Thanks man, I took some of your advice and what I found at
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/hardtopstorage.htm and got everything fixed.
> I have even got redundant ratchet straps to hold things up if the
> come-a-long gave way again. Luckily, once I got the hardtop up off my TJ
> today, the damage was not as bad as I thought. However, it could have been
> real nasty if my Jeep had not been exactly in place under it for it to fall
> on.

no problem, glad to hear there wasn't too much damage.

--
DougW