Full time 4wd or not?!?
12-06-2003, 12:20 PM
#21
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....
In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....
In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
12-06-2003, 12:20 PM
#22
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....
In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....
In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
12-06-2003, 12:53 PM
#23
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
12-06-2003, 12:53 PM
#24
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
12-06-2003, 12:53 PM
#25
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
12-06-2003, 02:20 PM
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
12-06-2003, 02:20 PM
#27
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
12-06-2003, 02:20 PM
#28
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
John Davies wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>
>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
12-06-2003, 02:34 PM
#29
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
Jerry
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news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
Jerry
--
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12-06-2003, 02:34 PM
#30
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
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news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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