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Eric 12-06-2003 10:13 AM

Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi, 4lo,
and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.

Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and forth
on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
case?!?

Thanks!

Eric
00 XJ LTD



Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:38 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.

Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

4lo,
> and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>
> Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

forth
> on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
> front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
> on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> case?!?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 00 XJ LTD
>
>




Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:38 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

4lo,
> and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>
> Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

forth
> on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
> front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
> on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> case?!?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 00 XJ LTD
>
>




Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:38 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

4lo,
> and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>
> Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

forth
> on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
> front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
> on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> case?!?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
> 00 XJ LTD
>
>




Eric 12-06-2003 10:43 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
slipped. Good news that I was wrong

What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
they both engage the front axle...

Thanks!

Eric

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >

>
>




Eric 12-06-2003 10:43 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
slipped. Good news that I was wrong

What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
they both engage the front axle...

Thanks!

Eric

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >

>
>




Eric 12-06-2003 10:43 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
slipped. Good news that I was wrong

What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
they both engage the front axle...

Thanks!

Eric

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 12-06-2003 10:53 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
One way to explain it is that full time four wheel drive engages the front
axle, but part time four wheel drive ENGAGES the front axle. Part time
locks the front and back axles together, not the best thing for a paved
road.

Earle

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 12-06-2003 10:53 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
One way to explain it is that full time four wheel drive engages the front
axle, but part time four wheel drive ENGAGES the front axle. Part time
locks the front and back axles together, not the best thing for a paved
road.

Earle

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 12-06-2003 10:53 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
One way to explain it is that full time four wheel drive engages the front
axle, but part time four wheel drive ENGAGES the front axle. Part time
locks the front and back axles together, not the best thing for a paved
road.

Earle

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:54 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The part-time (4Hi and 4Lo) settings mechanically lock the front and rear
axles together. They turn in lock-step with each other. This is the more
aggressive of the two modes, part and full-time, and is used for offroading.

The full-time setting couples the front and rear axles together via a
viscous (fluid) coupling, much like how an automatic transmission works.
This is a less "aggressive" 4x4 mode that allows for some slippage between
the front and rear axles that is required for paved highway use.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:54 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The part-time (4Hi and 4Lo) settings mechanically lock the front and rear
axles together. They turn in lock-step with each other. This is the more
aggressive of the two modes, part and full-time, and is used for offroading.

The full-time setting couples the front and rear axles together via a
viscous (fluid) coupling, much like how an automatic transmission works.
This is a less "aggressive" 4x4 mode that allows for some slippage between
the front and rear axles that is required for paved highway use.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 10:54 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The part-time (4Hi and 4Lo) settings mechanically lock the front and rear
axles together. They turn in lock-step with each other. This is the more
aggressive of the two modes, part and full-time, and is used for offroading.

The full-time setting couples the front and rear axles together via a
viscous (fluid) coupling, much like how an automatic transmission works.
This is a less "aggressive" 4x4 mode that allows for some slippage between
the front and rear axles that is required for paved highway use.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yOmAb.10475$LV1.5850@okepread05...
> I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
> What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
> they both engage the front axle...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> > 4lo,
> > > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've

been
> > > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time

4wd
> > > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> > >
> > > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> > forth
> > > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

> the
> > > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

> used
> > > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my

transfer
> > > case?!?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 00 XJ LTD
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




John Davies 12-06-2003 11:06 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>they both engage the front axle...


In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.

The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
is clueless, keep it in Full Time.

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 12-06-2003 11:06 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>they both engage the front axle...


In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.

The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
is clueless, keep it in Full Time.

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 12-06-2003 11:06 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>
>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>they both engage the front axle...


In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.

The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
is clueless, keep it in Full Time.

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

Eric 12-06-2003 11:49 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
a good option to have to me.

I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

Eric
99 TJ
00 XJ
"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:abv3tv4qbc7lgt40sd2vavs22op19o95s6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> >slipped. Good news that I was wrong
> >
> >What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then?

If
> >they both engage the front axle...

>
> In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
> case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
> feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
> The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
> get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
> Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
> raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
> is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA




Eric 12-06-2003 11:49 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
a good option to have to me.

I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

Eric
99 TJ
00 XJ
"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:abv3tv4qbc7lgt40sd2vavs22op19o95s6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> >slipped. Good news that I was wrong
> >
> >What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then?

If
> >they both engage the front axle...

>
> In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
> case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
> feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
> The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
> get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
> Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
> raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
> is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA




Eric 12-06-2003 11:49 AM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
a good option to have to me.

I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

Eric
99 TJ
00 XJ
"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:abv3tv4qbc7lgt40sd2vavs22op19o95s6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the

wheels
> >slipped. Good news that I was wrong
> >
> >What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then?

If
> >they both engage the front axle...

>
> In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
> case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
> feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
> The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
> get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
> Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
> raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
> is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA




Matt Macchiarolo 12-06-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....

In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:

>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-06-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....

In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:

>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-06-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
That's a guess on my part....

In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:

>Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
>a good option to have to me.
>
>I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
>weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
>4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
>trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Mike Romain 12-06-2003 12:53 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


Mike Romain 12-06-2003 12:53 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


Mike Romain 12-06-2003 12:53 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Good guess, you are right, it is too long to fit.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It might be a somewhat longer Tcase, and that would shorten the rear driveshaft
> which is already as short as it can be without causing problems in stock form.
> That's a guess on my part....
>
> In article <WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05>, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> writes:
>
> >Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds like
> >a good option to have to me.
> >
> >I use part time whenever we take the XJ on the trails, and use it when the
> >weather is nasty (i.e. WAY too much snow). I try to avoid putting the TJ in
> >4wd unless the weather is nasty or I'm crawling over some rock. Even on the
> >trails I'll put it in and out of 4wd when I don't need it.

>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


me 12-06-2003 02:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??

John Davies wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>

>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>



me 12-06-2003 02:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??

John Davies wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>

>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>



me 12-06-2003 02:20 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Hey John, you didn't go to college at ERAU, did you??

John Davies wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:26 -0600, "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had assumed it was one of those systems that only engaged when the wheels
>>slipped. Good news that I was wrong
>>
>>What is different about the full-time setting than the part time then? If
>>they both engage the front axle...
>>
>>

>
>In Full Time you have engaged the center differential in the transfer
>case, which helps to eliminate front/ rear axle binding. You can still
>feel it a little as the steering wheel twitches during sharp turns.
>
>The center diff is _not_ a limited slip in the XJ, so you can still
>get one wheel spinning with all the available power. That's why the
>Part Time postion is a better choice for when it is snowy. If it's
>raining or icy with bare patches, keep it in Full Time. If your wife
>is clueless, keep it in Full Time.
>
>John Davies
>Spokane WA USA
>
>



Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 02:34 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.


The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 02:34 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.


The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Jerry Bransford 12-06-2003 02:34 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.


The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't recall
my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/



Eric 12-06-2003 03:08 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The only time I noticed a difference was during slow, sharp turns on
pavement. The difference is that I'm-in-4wd feeling when you turn. I only
recognize it because if I'm on the trail and take a sharp turn in the TJ it
does the same thing. The wheels... twitch.. for lack of a better way to put
it... once every rotation or two. Again, this is only in SHARP turns on
pavement.

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:0bqAb.27847$Bk1.15264@fed1read05...
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
> not
> > result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

>
> The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
> engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
> mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't

recall
> my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
> there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
>




Eric 12-06-2003 03:08 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The only time I noticed a difference was during slow, sharp turns on
pavement. The difference is that I'm-in-4wd feeling when you turn. I only
recognize it because if I'm on the trail and take a sharp turn in the TJ it
does the same thing. The wheels... twitch.. for lack of a better way to put
it... once every rotation or two. Again, this is only in SHARP turns on
pavement.

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:0bqAb.27847$Bk1.15264@fed1read05...
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
> not
> > result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

>
> The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
> engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
> mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't

recall
> my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
> there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
>




Eric 12-06-2003 03:08 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
The only time I noticed a difference was during slow, sharp turns on
pavement. The difference is that I'm-in-4wd feeling when you turn. I only
recognize it because if I'm on the trail and take a sharp turn in the TJ it
does the same thing. The wheels... twitch.. for lack of a better way to put
it... once every rotation or two. Again, this is only in SHARP turns on
pavement.

Eric
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:0bqAb.27847$Bk1.15264@fed1read05...
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode should
> not
> > result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

>
> The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system that
> engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler purely
> mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't

recall
> my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
> there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
>




Roy J 12-06-2003 03:16 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
(other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
>
>>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

>
> 4lo,
>
>>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
>>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
>>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>>
>>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

>
> forth
>
>>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
>>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
>>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
>>case?!?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Eric
>>00 XJ LTD
>>
>>

>
>
>



Roy J 12-06-2003 03:16 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
(other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
>
>>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

>
> 4lo,
>
>>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
>>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
>>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>>
>>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

>
> forth
>
>>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
>>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
>>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
>>case?!?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Eric
>>00 XJ LTD
>>
>>

>
>
>



Roy J 12-06-2003 03:16 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
(other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
result in a noticable grabbing on turns.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
>
>>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

>
> 4lo,
>
>>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
>>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
>>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
>>
>>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

>
> forth
>
>>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged the
>>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be used
>>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
>>case?!?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Eric
>>00 XJ LTD
>>
>>

>
>
>



Valued User 12-06-2003 04:27 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full time doesn't lock the inside and outside tires (as much). I've had mine
96 xj in full time 4wd for most of its 140,000 miles so far.. I think the
only time it goes in 2wd is when i drove it off the lot, when i take it in
for an oil change - those mechanics love to put it in 2wd, and when its in
part time 4wd on the sand...

"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net...
> Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
> might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
> (other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
> been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
> the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> >
> >>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> >
> > 4lo,
> >
> >>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> >>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> >>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >>
> >>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> >
> > forth
> >
> >>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> >>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> >>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> >>case?!?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Eric
> >>00 XJ LTD
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>




Valued User 12-06-2003 04:27 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full time doesn't lock the inside and outside tires (as much). I've had mine
96 xj in full time 4wd for most of its 140,000 miles so far.. I think the
only time it goes in 2wd is when i drove it off the lot, when i take it in
for an oil change - those mechanics love to put it in 2wd, and when its in
part time 4wd on the sand...

"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net...
> Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
> might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
> (other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
> been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
> the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> >
> >>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> >
> > 4lo,
> >
> >>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> >>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> >>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >>
> >>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> >
> > forth
> >
> >>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> >>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> >>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> >>case?!?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Eric
> >>00 XJ LTD
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>




Valued User 12-06-2003 04:27 PM

Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
 
Full time doesn't lock the inside and outside tires (as much). I've had mine
96 xj in full time 4wd for most of its 140,000 miles so far.. I think the
only time it goes in 2wd is when i drove it off the lot, when i take it in
for an oil change - those mechanics love to put it in 2wd, and when its in
part time 4wd on the sand...

"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net...
> Jerry is correct but I think I might investigate if the thing
> might actually be in 4wh-hi instead of the all wheel mode. My
> (other brand) has an eletric motor to select the mode, it has
> been known to not grab the right mode on occasion. (usually in
> the cold wet slush weather) The all wheel drive mode should not
> result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> > engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> > full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use

will
> > not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> >
> >>My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,

> >
> > 4lo,
> >
> >>and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> >>getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> >>just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >>
> >>Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and

> >
> > forth
> >
> >>on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged

the
> >>front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be

used
> >>on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> >>case?!?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Eric
> >>00 XJ LTD
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>





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