fuel tank capacity
09-18-2007, 02:32 AM
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Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:22:29 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54c3$0$16314$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> Bingo!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>news:46ef2bae$0$9535$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54c3$0$16314$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> Bingo!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>news:46ef2bae$0$9535$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
09-18-2007, 02:32 AM
#62
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Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
09-18-2007, 02:32 AM
#63
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
09-18-2007, 02:32 AM
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
09-18-2007, 02:32 AM
#65
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Posts: n/a
Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
Message-ID: <46ef54a2$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
> It's a Daimler/Kraut thing, Americans wouldn't understand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46ef2251$0$7431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or
development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who
represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and
untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and
emotionless. The violence continues until it reaches a plateau at age
60 or so, then tapers off.
Their emotionlessness reflects a detached, fearless, and possibly
dissociated state, revealing a low-state autonomic nervous system and
lack of anxiety. It's difficult to say what motivates them - control
and dominance possibly - since their life history will usually show no
long-standing bonds with others nor much rhyme to their reason (other
than the planning of violence).
They tend to operate with a grandiose demeanor, an attitude of
entitlement, an insatiable appetite, and a tendency toward sadism.
Fearlessness is probably the prototypical (core) characteristic (the
low-fear hypothesis). It's helpful to think of them as high-speed
vehicles with ineffective brakes.
Certain organic (brain) disorders and hormonal imbalances mimic the
state of mind of a psychopath.
There are four (4) different subtypes of psychopaths. The oldest
distinction was made by Cleckley back in 1941 between primary and
secondary.
PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension,
stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their
antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but
because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have
the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if
they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that
Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan,
and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine
emotion.
SECONDARY PSYCHOPATHS are risk-takers, but are also more likely to be
stress-reactive, worriers, and guilt-prone. They expose themselves to
more stress than the average person, but they are as vulnerable to
stress as the average person. (This suggests that they are not "fully
psychopathic." This may be due to distinctive genetic variations.)
They are daring, adventurous, unconventional people who began playing
by their own rules early in life. They are strongly driven by a desire
to escape or avoid pain, but are unable to resist temptation. As their
anxiety increases toward some forbidden object, so does their
attraction to it. They live their lives by the lure of temptation.
Both primary and secondary psychopaths can be subdivided into:
DISTEMPERED PSYCHOPATHS are the kind that seem to fly into a rage or
frenzy more easily and more often than other subtypes. Their frenzy
will resemble an epileptic fit. They are also usually men with
incredibly strong --- drives, capable of astonishing feats of sexual
energy, and seemingly obsessed by sexual urges during a large part of
their waking lives. Powerful cravings also seem to characterize them,
as in drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, any illicit or illegal
indulgence. They like the endorphin "high" or "rush" off of excitement
and risk-taking. The serial-rapist-murderer known as the Boston
Strangler was such a psychopath.
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are
usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their
advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and
possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything
they own, even their lives. Leaders of religious sects or cults, for
example, might be psychopaths if they lead their followers to their
deaths. This subtype often comes to believe in their own fictions.
They are irresistible.
Sociopaths have always existed in varying form and to various degrees.
They have been known by various titles. They have been studied using
various techniques, and through the years their ailment has been
blamed on various causes. But one thing never varies: all sociopaths
share three common characteristics. They are all very egocentric
individuals with no empathy for others, and they are incapable of
feeling remorse or guilt. [The Sociopath Rebecca Horton (April 1999)]
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the
pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is
completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of
his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite
capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others.
He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking
impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes
friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words
to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired
and bask in the adulation of others.
With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath
is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put
himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by
him.[Gordon Banks]
How Psychopaths View The World
Not only do they covet possessions and power, but they gain special
pleasure in usurping and taking from others (a symbolic sibling, for
example); what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far
sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor.
And once having drained what they can from one source, they turn to
another to exploit, bleed, and then cast aside; their pleasure in the
misfortune of others is unquenchable. People are used as a means to an
end; they are to be subordinated and demeaned so that the antisocial
can vindicate themselves...
The causes of this sociopathic disorder have been narrowed to several
factors through research. One of the primary causes of sociopathic
behavior is believed to be neurological abnormalities mainly in the
frontal lobe of the brain. This area is also related to fear
conditioning. The abnormal anatomy or chemical activity within this
area of the brain may be caused by abnormal growth (possibly genetic),
brain disease, or injury. This theory has been supported by much
research using positron emission tomography (PET) which visually shows
the metabolic activity of neurons within the brain (Sabbatini, 1998).
The amygdalae, two small regions buried near the base of the brain,
have long been known to affect aggression, sexuality and recklessness.
Recently, they have also been shown to affect how people interpret the
emotions of others. Subtle damage to the amygdalae may explain many of
the characteristics of psychopaths - including the difficulty of
getting through to them emotionally. It may be that they simply cannot
"see" emotions in others. [Are You Married to a Psychopath?]
The psychopath is a manipulator, who knows exactly what makes us tick
and knows how to manipulate and influence our feelings.
They have the talent to spot “kind, caring” women.
Mimicry is often used to convince others that the psychopath is a
normal human being. He does this to create a false empathy with his
victim. The psychopath will try to make you believe he has normal
emotions by spinning some sad tale or professing profound, moving
experiences; the truth is, most psychopaths go through life as in an
incubator, touched by few and having no real compassion for others;
but they will lie to convince you that they have normal emotions.
The pity factor is one reason why victims often fall for these "poor"
people.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and
challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found
out. As Hare states,
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they
are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their
stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be
consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory
statements and a thoroughly confused listener." [Hare].
Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or
to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the
story.
Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they
achieve this.
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:37:12 -0700, Tracie <brainart@upstate.edu>
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:37:12 -0700, Tracie <brainart@upstate.edu>
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
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Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:37:12 -0700, Tracie <brainart@upstate.edu>
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
#69
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Re: fuel tank capacity
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:37:12 -0700, Tracie <brainart@upstate.edu>
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
wrote:
>On Sep 17, 9:37 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Al
>> >>> __
>> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> >> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>>
>> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
>> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
>> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
>> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>>
>> > Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> I can't imagine why they would do that either, unless it was to make
>> some easy money on people ordering the upgrade to the 20 gallon tank.
>> There are sites all over the net on how to do the fix though.
>>
>> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
>2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
>manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
>approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
>as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
>than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
>fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
>So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
>really a 19 gallon tank.
I've let the needle actually cross over onto the idiot light before
refeuling, but it's risky ;-)
Usually, when I refuel anywhere between the last line and the light, I
can only get to within 2 gallons of max.
(95 XJ Auto 4x4)
....
09-18-2007, 09:49 AM
#70
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Re: fuel tank capacity
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>> __
>>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
and strap setup.
The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
Mike
>
>>
>> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>>
>> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>>
>> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
>> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
>>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
>>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>> __
>>> Arold "Al" Green
>>
>> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
>> your 98 TJ.
>>
>> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
>> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
and strap setup.
The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
Mike
>
>>
>> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>>
>> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>>
>> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
>> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
