Mike Romain

David Harmon wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:56:38 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
> Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>> I then drive until it sputters, pull over and put gas in from the can to
>> get to a gas station.
>
> But then, you /enjoy/ cleaning crud out of your carb after sucking the
> dregs from the very bottom of 'new' to you gas tank..
>

'My' fuel pickup has a sock on it and always sucks from the same place
near the bottom of the tank. If there is crap there, the amount of fuel
in the tank makes no matter.

If there is enough crap to plug the pickup sock or screen, I want to
know about it 'now' so I don't get screwed way out in the bush some day
running low on fuel.

'Usually' I also do a tune up and oil change on them shortly after
buying which also 'includes' a new gas filter.

The only time I ever get 'crud' in my carburetor, is if I run dry on gas
and don't have a prime available so it has to crank and crank which
'can' suck charcoal bits out of the charcoal canister and deposit these
in the float bowl.

If I have my normal gas can on board, I prime the carb first which
prevents this.

On a FI vehicle, this is moot.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

David Harmon wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:56:38 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
> Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>> I then drive until it sputters, pull over and put gas in from the can to
>> get to a gas station.
>
> But then, you /enjoy/ cleaning crud out of your carb after sucking the
> dregs from the very bottom of 'new' to you gas tank..
>

'My' fuel pickup has a sock on it and always sucks from the same place
near the bottom of the tank. If there is crap there, the amount of fuel
in the tank makes no matter.

If there is enough crap to plug the pickup sock or screen, I want to
know about it 'now' so I don't get screwed way out in the bush some day
running low on fuel.

'Usually' I also do a tune up and oil change on them shortly after
buying which also 'includes' a new gas filter.

The only time I ever get 'crud' in my carburetor, is if I run dry on gas
and don't have a prime available so it has to crank and crank which
'can' suck charcoal bits out of the charcoal canister and deposit these
in the float bowl.

If I have my normal gas can on board, I prime the carb first which
prevents this.

On a FI vehicle, this is moot.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

David Harmon wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:56:38 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
> Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>> I then drive until it sputters, pull over and put gas in from the can to
>> get to a gas station.
>
> But then, you /enjoy/ cleaning crud out of your carb after sucking the
> dregs from the very bottom of 'new' to you gas tank..
>

'My' fuel pickup has a sock on it and always sucks from the same place
near the bottom of the tank. If there is crap there, the amount of fuel
in the tank makes no matter.

If there is enough crap to plug the pickup sock or screen, I want to
know about it 'now' so I don't get screwed way out in the bush some day
running low on fuel.

'Usually' I also do a tune up and oil change on them shortly after
buying which also 'includes' a new gas filter.

The only time I ever get 'crud' in my carburetor, is if I run dry on gas
and don't have a prime available so it has to crank and crank which
'can' suck charcoal bits out of the charcoal canister and deposit these
in the float bowl.

If I have my normal gas can on board, I prime the carb first which
prevents this.

On a FI vehicle, this is moot.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Kate

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote

They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
really a 19 gallon tank.
---

Now you have my curiosity up.... Let me have a lok here.

On my 06 Rubicon Sticker it says it has a 19 gallon tank.
I never gave it too much thought but as far as I remember I have never put
in more than 15 gallons or so.

I usually don't run much lower than the last quarter anyway....

Kate

Kate

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote

They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
really a 19 gallon tank.
---

Now you have my curiosity up.... Let me have a lok here.

On my 06 Rubicon Sticker it says it has a 19 gallon tank.
I never gave it too much thought but as far as I remember I have never put
in more than 15 gallons or so.

I usually don't run much lower than the last quarter anyway....

Kate

Kate

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote

They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
really a 19 gallon tank.
---

Now you have my curiosity up.... Let me have a lok here.

On my 06 Rubicon Sticker it says it has a 19 gallon tank.
I never gave it too much thought but as far as I remember I have never put
in more than 15 gallons or so.

I usually don't run much lower than the last quarter anyway....

Kate

Kate

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote

They must've changed the spec sheets in later years, 'cause I have a
2006 Wrangler X and my spec sheet does say 19 gallons. However, the
manual states that when the 'low gas, dummy' light comes on, you have
approximately 2 gallons of gas left. I have intentionally travelled
as far as I have dared around my town with this light on (never more
than walking distance from a gas station if it quit), and even when I
fill it, I have never been able to put more than 17.5 gallons in it.
So I am not sure if the gauge reads wrong, or if the tank is not
really a 19 gallon tank.
---

Now you have my curiosity up.... Let me have a lok here.

On my 06 Rubicon Sticker it says it has a 19 gallon tank.
I never gave it too much thought but as far as I remember I have never put
in more than 15 gallons or so.

I usually don't run much lower than the last quarter anyway....

Kate

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> The Psychopathy Checklist lets us discuss psychopaths with little
> risk that we are describing simple social deviance or criminality, or
> that we are mislabeling people who have nothing more in common than
> that they have broken the law. But it also provides a detailed picture
> of the disordered personalities of the psychopaths among us. In this
> chapter and the next, I bring that picture into focus by describing
> the more salient features one by one. This chapter looks at the
> emotional and interpersonal traits of this complex personality
> disorder; chapter 4 examines the unstable, characteristically
> antisocial lifestyle of the psychopath.
>
>
> Emotional/Interpersonal
> glib and superficial
> egocentric and grandiose
> lack of remorse or guilt
> lack of empathy
> deceitful and manipulative
> shallow emotions
> Social Deviance
> impulsive
> poor behavior controls
> need for excitement
> lack of responsibility
> early behavior problems
> adult antisocial behavior
>
>
> A cautionary note: The Psychopathy Checklist is a complex clinical
> tool for professional use.[1] What follows is a general summary of the
> key traits and behaviors of psychopaths. Do not use these symptoms to
> diagnose yourself or others. A diagnosis requires explicit training
> and access to the formal scoring manual. If you suspect that someone
> you know conforms to the profile described here and in the next
> chapter, and if it is important to you to obtain an expert opinion,
> seek the services of a qualified (registered) forensic psychologist or
> psychiatrist.
> Also, be aware that people who are not psychopaths may have some of
> the symptoms described here. Many people are impulsive, or glib, or
> cold and unfeeling, or antisocial, but this does not mean they are
> psychopaths. Psychopathy is a syndrome--a cluster of related symptoms.
>
>
> Psychopaths are often witty and articulate. They can be amusing and
> entertaining conversationalists, ready with a quick and clever
> comeback, and can tell unlikely but convincing stories that cast
> themselves in a good light. They can be very effective in presenting
> themselves well and are often very likable and charming. To some
> people, however, they seem too slick and smooth, too obviously
> insincere and superficial. Astute observers often get the impression
> that psychopaths are play-acting, mechanically "reading their lines."
>
>
> One of my raters described an interview she did with a prisoner: "I
> sat down and took out my clipboard, and the first thing this guy told
> me was what beautiful eyes I had. He managed to work quite a few
> compliments on my appearance into the interview -- couldn't get over
> my hair. So by the time I wrapped things up I was feeling
> unusually...well, pretty. I'm a wary person, especially on the job,
> and can usually spot a phony. When I got back outside, I couldn't
> believe I'd fallen for a line like that."
>
>
> Psychopaths may ramble and tell stories that seem unlikely in light of
> what is known about them. Typically, they attempt to appear familiar
> with sociology, psychiatry, medicine, psychology, philosophy, poetry,
> literature, art, or law. A signpost to this trait is often a smooth
> lack of concern at being found out. One of our prison files describes
> a psychopathic inmate claiming to have advanced degrees in sociology
> and psychology, when in fact he did not even complete high school. He
> maintained the fiction during an interview with one of my students, a
> Ph.D. candidate in psychology; she commented that the inmate was so
> confident in his use of technical jargon and concepts that those not
> familiar with the field of psychology might well have been impressed.
> Variations on this sort of "expert" theme are common among
> psychopaths....
>
>
>
> Psychopaths have a narcissistic and grossly inflated view of their
> self-worth and importance, a truly astounding egocentricity and sense
> of entitlement, and see themselves as the center of the universe, as
> superior beings who are justified in living according to their own
> rules. "It's not that I don't follow the law," said one of our
> subjects. "I follow my own laws. I never violate my own rules." She
> then described these rules in terms of "looking out for number one."
>
>
> When another psychopath, in prison for a variety of crimes including
> robbery, rape, and fraud, was asked if he had any weaknesses, he
> replied, "I don't have any weaknesses, except maybe I'm too caring."
> On a 10-point scale he rated himself "an all-round 10. I would have
> said 12, but that would be bragging. If I had a better education I'd
> be brilliant."
>
>
> The grandiosity and pomposity of some psychopaths often emerges in
> dramatic fashion in the courtroom. For example, it is not unusual for
> them to criticize or fire their lawyers and to take over their own
> defense, usually with disastrous results. "My partner got a year. I
> got two because of a ******** lawyer," said one of our subjects. He
> later handled his own appeal and saw his sentence increased to three
> years.
>
>
> Psychopaths often come across as arrogant, shameless braggarts --
> self-assured, opinionated, domineering, and cocky. They love to have
> power and control over others and seem unable to believe that other
> people have valid opinions different from theirs. They appear
> charismatic or "electrifying" to some people.
>
>
> Psychopaths are seldom embarrassed about their legal, financial, or
> personal problems. Rather, they see them as temporary setbacks, the
> results of bad luck, unfaithful friends, or an unfair and incompetent
> system.
>
>
> Although psychopaths often claim to have specific goals, they show
> little understanding of the qualifications required -- they have no
> idea how to achieve their goals and little or no chance of attaining
> them, given their track record and lack of sustained interest in
> education. The psychopathic inmate thinking about parole might outline
> vague plans to become a property tycoon or a lawyer for the poor. One
> inmate, not particularly literate, managed to copyright the title of a
> book he was planning to write about himself and was already counting
> the fortune his bestseller would bring....
>
>
> Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating
> effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely
> forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of
> guilt, are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused,
> and that there is no reason for them to be concerned.
>
>
> When asked if he had any regrets about stabbing a robbery victim who
> subsequently spent three months in the hospital as a result of his
> wounds, one of our subjects replied, "Get real! He spends a few months
> in a hospital and I rot here. I cut him up a bit, but if I wanted to
> kill him I would have slit his throat. That's the kind of guy I am; I
> gave him a break." Asked if he regretted any of his crimes, he said,
> "I don't regret nothing. What's done is done. There must have been a
> reason why I did it at the time, and that is why it was done...."
>
>
> On the other hand, psychopaths sometimes verbalize remorse but then
> contradict themselves in words or actions. Criminals in prison quickly
> learn that remorse is an important word. When asked if he experienced
> remorse over a murder he'd committed, one young inmate told us, "Yeah,
> sure, I feel remorse." Pressed further, he said that he didn't "feel
> bad inside about it."
>
>
> I was once dumbfounded by the logic of an inmate who described his
> murder victim as having benefited from the crime by learning "a hard
> lesson about life."
>
>
> "The guy only had himself to blame," another inmate said of the man
> he'd murdered in an argument about paying a bar tab. "Anybody could
> have seen I was in a rotten mood that night. What did he want to go
> and bother me for?" He continued, "Anyway, the guy never suffered.
> Knife wounds to an artery are the easiest way to go."
>
>
> Psychopaths' lack of remorse or guilt is associated with a remarkable
> ability to rationalize their behavior and to shrug off personal
> responsibility for actions that cause shock and disappointment to
> family, friends, associates, and others who have played by the rules.
> Usually they have handy excuses for their behavior, and in some cases
> they deny that it happened at all....
>
>
> Many of the characteristics displayed by psychopaths -- especially
> their egocentricity, lack of remorse, shallow emotions, and
> deceitfulness are closely associated with a profound lack of empathy
> (an inability to construct a mental and emotional "facsimile" of
> another person). They seem unable to "get into the skin" or to "walk
> in the shoes" of others, except in a purely intellectual sense. The
> feelings of other people are of no concern to psychopaths.
>
>
> In some respects they are like the emotionless androids depicted in
> science fiction, unable to imagine what real humans experience. One
> rapist, high on the Psychopathy Checklist, commented that he found it
> hard to empathize with his victims. "They are frightened, right? But,
> you see, I don't really understand it. I've been scared myself, and it
> wasn't unpleasant."
>
>
> Psychopaths view people as little more than objects to be used for
> their own gratification. The weak and the vulnerable -- whom they
> mock, rather than pity--are favorite targets. "There is no such thing,
> in the psychopathic universe, as the merely weak," wrote psychologist
> Robert Rieber. "Whoever is weak is also a sucker; that is, someone who
> demands to be exploited....
>
>
> Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
> psychopaths.
>
> With their powers of imagination in gear and focused on themselves,
> psychopaths appear amazingly unfazed by the possibility -- or even by
> the certainty -- of being found out. When caught in a lie or
> challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed --
> they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so
> that they appear to be consistent with the lie. The results are a
> series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener.
> Much of the lying seems to have no motivation other than what
> psychologist Paul Ekman refers to as a "duping delight....
>
>
> Psychopaths seem proud of their ability to lie. When asked if she lied
> easily, one woman with a high score on the Psychopathy Checklist
> laughed and replied, "I'm the best. I'm really good at it, I think
> because I sometimes admit to something bad about myself. They'd think,
> well, if she's admitting to that she must be telling the truth about
> the rest." She also said that she sometimes "salts the mine" with a
> nugget of truth." If they think some of what you say is true, they
> usually think it's all true."
>
>
> Many observers get the impression that psychopaths sometimes are
> unaware that they're lying; it is as if the words take on a life of
> their own, unfettered by the speaker's knowledge that the observer is
> aware of the facts. The psychopath's indifference to being identified
> as a liar is truly extraordinary; it causes the listener to wonder
> about the speaker's sanity. More often, though, the listener is taken
> in....
>
>
> "I'm the most cold-blooded son of a bitch that you'll ever meet. So
> Ted Bundy described himself to the police following his final arrest.
>
>
> Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the
> range and depth of their feelings. While at times they appear cold and
> unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow, and short-lived
> displays of feeling. Careful observers are left with the impression
> that they are play-acting and that little is going on below the
> surface.
>
>
> Sometimes they claim to experience strong emotions but are unable to
> describe the subtleties of various affective states. For example, they
> equate love with sexual arousal, sadness with frustration, and anger
> with irritability. "I believe in emotions: hate, anger, lust, and
> greed," said Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker....
>
>
> The apparent lack of normal affect and emotional depth led
> psychologists J. H. Johns and H. C. Quay to say that the psychopath
> "knows the words but not the music.For example, in a rambling book
> about hate, violence, and rationalizations for his behavior, Jack
> Abbott made this revealing comment: "There are emotions -- a whole
> spectrum of them -- that I know only through words, through reading
> and in my immature imagination. I can imagine I feel these emotions
> (know, therefore, what they are), but I do not. At age thirty-seven I
> am barely a precocious child. My passions are those of a boy....
>



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
news:srp1f3h62vbvk8h87dmfoddg75tjrgju9c@4ax.com...
>
> The Psychopathy Checklist lets us discuss psychopaths with little
> risk that we are describing simple social deviance or criminality, or
> that we are mislabeling people who have nothing more in common than
> that they have broken the law. But it also provides a detailed picture
> of the disordered personalities of the psychopaths among us. In this
> chapter and the next, I bring that picture into focus by describing
> the more salient features one by one. This chapter looks at the
> emotional and interpersonal traits of this complex personality
> disorder; chapter 4 examines the unstable, characteristically
> antisocial lifestyle of the psychopath.
>
>
> Emotional/Interpersonal
> glib and superficial
> egocentric and grandiose
> lack of remorse or guilt
> lack of empathy
> deceitful and manipulative
> shallow emotions
> Social Deviance
> impulsive
> poor behavior controls
> need for excitement
> lack of responsibility
> early behavior problems
> adult antisocial behavior
>
>
> A cautionary note: The Psychopathy Checklist is a complex clinical
> tool for professional use.[1] What follows is a general summary of the
> key traits and behaviors of psychopaths. Do not use these symptoms to
> diagnose yourself or others. A diagnosis requires explicit training
> and access to the formal scoring manual. If you suspect that someone
> you know conforms to the profile described here and in the next
> chapter, and if it is important to you to obtain an expert opinion,
> seek the services of a qualified (registered) forensic psychologist or
> psychiatrist.
> Also, be aware that people who are not psychopaths may have some of
> the symptoms described here. Many people are impulsive, or glib, or
> cold and unfeeling, or antisocial, but this does not mean they are
> psychopaths. Psychopathy is a syndrome--a cluster of related symptoms.
>
>
> Psychopaths are often witty and articulate. They can be amusing and
> entertaining conversationalists, ready with a quick and clever
> comeback, and can tell unlikely but convincing stories that cast
> themselves in a good light. They can be very effective in presenting
> themselves well and are often very likable and charming. To some
> people, however, they seem too slick and smooth, too obviously
> insincere and superficial. Astute observers often get the impression
> that psychopaths are play-acting, mechanically "reading their lines."
>
>
> One of my raters described an interview she did with a prisoner: "I
> sat down and took out my clipboard, and the first thing this guy told
> me was what beautiful eyes I had. He managed to work quite a few
> compliments on my appearance into the interview -- couldn't get over
> my hair. So by the time I wrapped things up I was feeling
> unusually...well, pretty. I'm a wary person, especially on the job,
> and can usually spot a phony. When I got back outside, I couldn't
> believe I'd fallen for a line like that."
>
>
> Psychopaths may ramble and tell stories that seem unlikely in light of
> what is known about them. Typically, they attempt to appear familiar
> with sociology, psychiatry, medicine, psychology, philosophy, poetry,
> literature, art, or law. A signpost to this trait is often a smooth
> lack of concern at being found out. One of our prison files describes
> a psychopathic inmate claiming to have advanced degrees in sociology
> and psychology, when in fact he did not even complete high school. He
> maintained the fiction during an interview with one of my students, a
> Ph.D. candidate in psychology; she commented that the inmate was so
> confident in his use of technical jargon and concepts that those not
> familiar with the field of psychology might well have been impressed.
> Variations on this sort of "expert" theme are common among
> psychopaths....
>
>
>
> Psychopaths have a narcissistic and grossly inflated view of their
> self-worth and importance, a truly astounding egocentricity and sense
> of entitlement, and see themselves as the center of the universe, as
> superior beings who are justified in living according to their own
> rules. "It's not that I don't follow the law," said one of our
> subjects. "I follow my own laws. I never violate my own rules." She
> then described these rules in terms of "looking out for number one."
>
>
> When another psychopath, in prison for a variety of crimes including
> robbery, rape, and fraud, was asked if he had any weaknesses, he
> replied, "I don't have any weaknesses, except maybe I'm too caring."
> On a 10-point scale he rated himself "an all-round 10. I would have
> said 12, but that would be bragging. If I had a better education I'd
> be brilliant."
>
>
> The grandiosity and pomposity of some psychopaths often emerges in
> dramatic fashion in the courtroom. For example, it is not unusual for
> them to criticize or fire their lawyers and to take over their own
> defense, usually with disastrous results. "My partner got a year. I
> got two because of a ******** lawyer," said one of our subjects. He
> later handled his own appeal and saw his sentence increased to three
> years.
>
>
> Psychopaths often come across as arrogant, shameless braggarts --
> self-assured, opinionated, domineering, and cocky. They love to have
> power and control over others and seem unable to believe that other
> people have valid opinions different from theirs. They appear
> charismatic or "electrifying" to some people.
>
>
> Psychopaths are seldom embarrassed about their legal, financial, or
> personal problems. Rather, they see them as temporary setbacks, the
> results of bad luck, unfaithful friends, or an unfair and incompetent
> system.
>
>
> Although psychopaths often claim to have specific goals, they show
> little understanding of the qualifications required -- they have no
> idea how to achieve their goals and little or no chance of attaining
> them, given their track record and lack of sustained interest in
> education. The psychopathic inmate thinking about parole might outline
> vague plans to become a property tycoon or a lawyer for the poor. One
> inmate, not particularly literate, managed to copyright the title of a
> book he was planning to write about himself and was already counting
> the fortune his bestseller would bring....
>
>
> Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating
> effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely
> forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of
> guilt, are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused,
> and that there is no reason for them to be concerned.
>
>
> When asked if he had any regrets about stabbing a robbery victim who
> subsequently spent three months in the hospital as a result of his
> wounds, one of our subjects replied, "Get real! He spends a few months
> in a hospital and I rot here. I cut him up a bit, but if I wanted to
> kill him I would have slit his throat. That's the kind of guy I am; I
> gave him a break." Asked if he regretted any of his crimes, he said,
> "I don't regret nothing. What's done is done. There must have been a
> reason why I did it at the time, and that is why it was done...."
>
>
> On the other hand, psychopaths sometimes verbalize remorse but then
> contradict themselves in words or actions. Criminals in prison quickly
> learn that remorse is an important word. When asked if he experienced
> remorse over a murder he'd committed, one young inmate told us, "Yeah,
> sure, I feel remorse." Pressed further, he said that he didn't "feel
> bad inside about it."
>
>
> I was once dumbfounded by the logic of an inmate who described his
> murder victim as having benefited from the crime by learning "a hard
> lesson about life."
>
>
> "The guy only had himself to blame," another inmate said of the man
> he'd murdered in an argument about paying a bar tab. "Anybody could
> have seen I was in a rotten mood that night. What did he want to go
> and bother me for?" He continued, "Anyway, the guy never suffered.
> Knife wounds to an artery are the easiest way to go."
>
>
> Psychopaths' lack of remorse or guilt is associated with a remarkable
> ability to rationalize their behavior and to shrug off personal
> responsibility for actions that cause shock and disappointment to
> family, friends, associates, and others who have played by the rules.
> Usually they have handy excuses for their behavior, and in some cases
> they deny that it happened at all....
>
>
> Many of the characteristics displayed by psychopaths -- especially
> their egocentricity, lack of remorse, shallow emotions, and
> deceitfulness are closely associated with a profound lack of empathy
> (an inability to construct a mental and emotional "facsimile" of
> another person). They seem unable to "get into the skin" or to "walk
> in the shoes" of others, except in a purely intellectual sense. The
> feelings of other people are of no concern to psychopaths.
>
>
> In some respects they are like the emotionless androids depicted in
> science fiction, unable to imagine what real humans experience. One
> rapist, high on the Psychopathy Checklist, commented that he found it
> hard to empathize with his victims. "They are frightened, right? But,
> you see, I don't really understand it. I've been scared myself, and it
> wasn't unpleasant."
>
>
> Psychopaths view people as little more than objects to be used for
> their own gratification. The weak and the vulnerable -- whom they
> mock, rather than pity--are favorite targets. "There is no such thing,
> in the psychopathic universe, as the merely weak," wrote psychologist
> Robert Rieber. "Whoever is weak is also a sucker; that is, someone who
> demands to be exploited....
>
>
> Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
> psychopaths.
>
> With their powers of imagination in gear and focused on themselves,
> psychopaths appear amazingly unfazed by the possibility -- or even by
> the certainty -- of being found out. When caught in a lie or
> challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed --
> they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so
> that they appear to be consistent with the lie. The results are a
> series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener.
> Much of the lying seems to have no motivation other than what
> psychologist Paul Ekman refers to as a "duping delight....
>
>
> Psychopaths seem proud of their ability to lie. When asked if she lied
> easily, one woman with a high score on the Psychopathy Checklist
> laughed and replied, "I'm the best. I'm really good at it, I think
> because I sometimes admit to something bad about myself. They'd think,
> well, if she's admitting to that she must be telling the truth about
> the rest." She also said that she sometimes "salts the mine" with a
> nugget of truth." If they think some of what you say is true, they
> usually think it's all true."
>
>
> Many observers get the impression that psychopaths sometimes are
> unaware that they're lying; it is as if the words take on a life of
> their own, unfettered by the speaker's knowledge that the observer is
> aware of the facts. The psychopath's indifference to being identified
> as a liar is truly extraordinary; it causes the listener to wonder
> about the speaker's sanity. More often, though, the listener is taken
> in....
>
>
> "I'm the most cold-blooded son of a bitch that you'll ever meet. So
> Ted Bundy described himself to the police following his final arrest.
>
>
> Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the
> range and depth of their feelings. While at times they appear cold and
> unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow, and short-lived
> displays of feeling. Careful observers are left with the impression
> that they are play-acting and that little is going on below the
> surface.
>
>
> Sometimes they claim to experience strong emotions but are unable to
> describe the subtleties of various affective states. For example, they
> equate love with sexual arousal, sadness with frustration, and anger
> with irritability. "I believe in emotions: hate, anger, lust, and
> greed," said Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker....
>
>
> The apparent lack of normal affect and emotional depth led
> psychologists J. H. Johns and H. C. Quay to say that the psychopath
> "knows the words but not the music.For example, in a rambling book
> about hate, violence, and rationalizations for his behavior, Jack
> Abbott made this revealing comment: "There are emotions -- a whole
> spectrum of them -- that I know only through words, through reading
> and in my immature imagination. I can imagine I feel these emotions
> (know, therefore, what they are), but I do not. At age thirty-seven I
> am barely a precocious child. My passions are those of a boy....
>



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
news:srp1f3h62vbvk8h87dmfoddg75tjrgju9c@4ax.com...
>
> The Psychopathy Checklist lets us discuss psychopaths with little
> risk that we are describing simple social deviance or criminality, or
> that we are mislabeling people who have nothing more in common than
> that they have broken the law. But it also provides a detailed picture
> of the disordered personalities of the psychopaths among us. In this
> chapter and the next, I bring that picture into focus by describing
> the more salient features one by one. This chapter looks at the
> emotional and interpersonal traits of this complex personality
> disorder; chapter 4 examines the unstable, characteristically
> antisocial lifestyle of the psychopath.
>
>
> Emotional/Interpersonal
> glib and superficial
> egocentric and grandiose
> lack of remorse or guilt
> lack of empathy
> deceitful and manipulative
> shallow emotions
> Social Deviance
> impulsive
> poor behavior controls
> need for excitement
> lack of responsibility
> early behavior problems
> adult antisocial behavior
>
>
> A cautionary note: The Psychopathy Checklist is a complex clinical
> tool for professional use.[1] What follows is a general summary of the
> key traits and behaviors of psychopaths. Do not use these symptoms to
> diagnose yourself or others. A diagnosis requires explicit training
> and access to the formal scoring manual. If you suspect that someone
> you know conforms to the profile described here and in the next
> chapter, and if it is important to you to obtain an expert opinion,
> seek the services of a qualified (registered) forensic psychologist or
> psychiatrist.
> Also, be aware that people who are not psychopaths may have some of
> the symptoms described here. Many people are impulsive, or glib, or
> cold and unfeeling, or antisocial, but this does not mean they are
> psychopaths. Psychopathy is a syndrome--a cluster of related symptoms.
>
>
> Psychopaths are often witty and articulate. They can be amusing and
> entertaining conversationalists, ready with a quick and clever
> comeback, and can tell unlikely but convincing stories that cast
> themselves in a good light. They can be very effective in presenting
> themselves well and are often very likable and charming. To some
> people, however, they seem too slick and smooth, too obviously
> insincere and superficial. Astute observers often get the impression
> that psychopaths are play-acting, mechanically "reading their lines."
>
>
> One of my raters described an interview she did with a prisoner: "I
> sat down and took out my clipboard, and the first thing this guy told
> me was what beautiful eyes I had. He managed to work quite a few
> compliments on my appearance into the interview -- couldn't get over
> my hair. So by the time I wrapped things up I was feeling
> unusually...well, pretty. I'm a wary person, especially on the job,
> and can usually spot a phony. When I got back outside, I couldn't
> believe I'd fallen for a line like that."
>
>
> Psychopaths may ramble and tell stories that seem unlikely in light of
> what is known about them. Typically, they attempt to appear familiar
> with sociology, psychiatry, medicine, psychology, philosophy, poetry,
> literature, art, or law. A signpost to this trait is often a smooth
> lack of concern at being found out. One of our prison files describes
> a psychopathic inmate claiming to have advanced degrees in sociology
> and psychology, when in fact he did not even complete high school. He
> maintained the fiction during an interview with one of my students, a
> Ph.D. candidate in psychology; she commented that the inmate was so
> confident in his use of technical jargon and concepts that those not
> familiar with the field of psychology might well have been impressed.
> Variations on this sort of "expert" theme are common among
> psychopaths....
>
>
>
> Psychopaths have a narcissistic and grossly inflated view of their
> self-worth and importance, a truly astounding egocentricity and sense
> of entitlement, and see themselves as the center of the universe, as
> superior beings who are justified in living according to their own
> rules. "It's not that I don't follow the law," said one of our
> subjects. "I follow my own laws. I never violate my own rules." She
> then described these rules in terms of "looking out for number one."
>
>
> When another psychopath, in prison for a variety of crimes including
> robbery, rape, and fraud, was asked if he had any weaknesses, he
> replied, "I don't have any weaknesses, except maybe I'm too caring."
> On a 10-point scale he rated himself "an all-round 10. I would have
> said 12, but that would be bragging. If I had a better education I'd
> be brilliant."
>
>
> The grandiosity and pomposity of some psychopaths often emerges in
> dramatic fashion in the courtroom. For example, it is not unusual for
> them to criticize or fire their lawyers and to take over their own
> defense, usually with disastrous results. "My partner got a year. I
> got two because of a ******** lawyer," said one of our subjects. He
> later handled his own appeal and saw his sentence increased to three
> years.
>
>
> Psychopaths often come across as arrogant, shameless braggarts --
> self-assured, opinionated, domineering, and cocky. They love to have
> power and control over others and seem unable to believe that other
> people have valid opinions different from theirs. They appear
> charismatic or "electrifying" to some people.
>
>
> Psychopaths are seldom embarrassed about their legal, financial, or
> personal problems. Rather, they see them as temporary setbacks, the
> results of bad luck, unfaithful friends, or an unfair and incompetent
> system.
>
>
> Although psychopaths often claim to have specific goals, they show
> little understanding of the qualifications required -- they have no
> idea how to achieve their goals and little or no chance of attaining
> them, given their track record and lack of sustained interest in
> education. The psychopathic inmate thinking about parole might outline
> vague plans to become a property tycoon or a lawyer for the poor. One
> inmate, not particularly literate, managed to copyright the title of a
> book he was planning to write about himself and was already counting
> the fortune his bestseller would bring....
>
>
> Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating
> effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely
> forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of
> guilt, are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused,
> and that there is no reason for them to be concerned.
>
>
> When asked if he had any regrets about stabbing a robbery victim who
> subsequently spent three months in the hospital as a result of his
> wounds, one of our subjects replied, "Get real! He spends a few months
> in a hospital and I rot here. I cut him up a bit, but if I wanted to
> kill him I would have slit his throat. That's the kind of guy I am; I
> gave him a break." Asked if he regretted any of his crimes, he said,
> "I don't regret nothing. What's done is done. There must have been a
> reason why I did it at the time, and that is why it was done...."
>
>
> On the other hand, psychopaths sometimes verbalize remorse but then
> contradict themselves in words or actions. Criminals in prison quickly
> learn that remorse is an important word. When asked if he experienced
> remorse over a murder he'd committed, one young inmate told us, "Yeah,
> sure, I feel remorse." Pressed further, he said that he didn't "feel
> bad inside about it."
>
>
> I was once dumbfounded by the logic of an inmate who described his
> murder victim as having benefited from the crime by learning "a hard
> lesson about life."
>
>
> "The guy only had himself to blame," another inmate said of the man
> he'd murdered in an argument about paying a bar tab. "Anybody could
> have seen I was in a rotten mood that night. What did he want to go
> and bother me for?" He continued, "Anyway, the guy never suffered.
> Knife wounds to an artery are the easiest way to go."
>
>
> Psychopaths' lack of remorse or guilt is associated with a remarkable
> ability to rationalize their behavior and to shrug off personal
> responsibility for actions that cause shock and disappointment to
> family, friends, associates, and others who have played by the rules.
> Usually they have handy excuses for their behavior, and in some cases
> they deny that it happened at all....
>
>
> Many of the characteristics displayed by psychopaths -- especially
> their egocentricity, lack of remorse, shallow emotions, and
> deceitfulness are closely associated with a profound lack of empathy
> (an inability to construct a mental and emotional "facsimile" of
> another person). They seem unable to "get into the skin" or to "walk
> in the shoes" of others, except in a purely intellectual sense. The
> feelings of other people are of no concern to psychopaths.
>
>
> In some respects they are like the emotionless androids depicted in
> science fiction, unable to imagine what real humans experience. One
> rapist, high on the Psychopathy Checklist, commented that he found it
> hard to empathize with his victims. "They are frightened, right? But,
> you see, I don't really understand it. I've been scared myself, and it
> wasn't unpleasant."
>
>
> Psychopaths view people as little more than objects to be used for
> their own gratification. The weak and the vulnerable -- whom they
> mock, rather than pity--are favorite targets. "There is no such thing,
> in the psychopathic universe, as the merely weak," wrote psychologist
> Robert Rieber. "Whoever is weak is also a sucker; that is, someone who
> demands to be exploited....
>
>
> Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for
> psychopaths.
>
> With their powers of imagination in gear and focused on themselves,
> psychopaths appear amazingly unfazed by the possibility -- or even by
> the certainty -- of being found out. When caught in a lie or
> challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed --
> they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so
> that they appear to be consistent with the lie. The results are a
> series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener.
> Much of the lying seems to have no motivation other than what
> psychologist Paul Ekman refers to as a "duping delight....
>
>
> Psychopaths seem proud of their ability to lie. When asked if she lied
> easily, one woman with a high score on the Psychopathy Checklist
> laughed and replied, "I'm the best. I'm really good at it, I think
> because I sometimes admit to something bad about myself. They'd think,
> well, if she's admitting to that she must be telling the truth about
> the rest." She also said that she sometimes "salts the mine" with a
> nugget of truth." If they think some of what you say is true, they
> usually think it's all true."
>
>
> Many observers get the impression that psychopaths sometimes are
> unaware that they're lying; it is as if the words take on a life of
> their own, unfettered by the speaker's knowledge that the observer is
> aware of the facts. The psychopath's indifference to being identified
> as a liar is truly extraordinary; it causes the listener to wonder
> about the speaker's sanity. More often, though, the listener is taken
> in....
>
>
> "I'm the most cold-blooded son of a bitch that you'll ever meet. So
> Ted Bundy described himself to the police following his final arrest.
>
>
> Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the
> range and depth of their feelings. While at times they appear cold and
> unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow, and short-lived
> displays of feeling. Careful observers are left with the impression
> that they are play-acting and that little is going on below the
> surface.
>
>
> Sometimes they claim to experience strong emotions but are unable to
> describe the subtleties of various affective states. For example, they
> equate love with sexual arousal, sadness with frustration, and anger
> with irritability. "I believe in emotions: hate, anger, lust, and
> greed," said Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker....
>
>
> The apparent lack of normal affect and emotional depth led
> psychologists J. H. Johns and H. C. Quay to say that the psychopath
> "knows the words but not the music.For example, in a rambling book
> about hate, violence, and rationalizations for his behavior, Jack
> Abbott made this revealing comment: "There are emotions -- a whole
> spectrum of them -- that I know only through words, through reading
> and in my immature imagination. I can imagine I feel these emotions
> (know, therefore, what they are), but I do not. At age thirty-seven I
> am barely a precocious child. My passions are those of a boy....
>



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